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Old 03-04-2002, 04:02 PM   #16
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U2 know good music when they hear it I guess!

hehehe.. That, and it might have something to do with the fact that Paul McGuinness also manages PJ.

But yes - ALWAYS BE PROUD WITH WHAT YOU LIKE!
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Taken out of context, many of us can relate to this line. But the song is about an inappropriate sexual relationship with an underage girl--or at least that's how I hear it--which changes the meaning of those lyrics substantially.

I've been listening to the record a lot. I like it. She doesn't whine--it's very inspirational, in fact, for the most part, and very spiritual, too.

Here's my favorite song from the record:

"You Owe Me Nothing In Return"

I'll give you careless amounts of out right
Acceptance if you want it. I'll give you
Encouragement to choose the path you want if you need it.

You can speak of anger and doubts,
Your fears and freak-outs and I'll hold it.
You can share your so-called
Shamefilled accounts of times in your life and I won't judge it.

And there are no strings attached,
You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give.
You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have.
I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege,
And you owe me nothing in return.

You can ask for space for yourself
And only yourself and I'll grant it.
You can ask for freedom as was
Or time to revel and you'll have it.

You can ask to live by yourself
Or love someone else and I'll support it.
You can ask for anything you want
Anything at all and I'll understand it.

I bet you're wondering when
The next payback you'll eventually drop.
I bet you're wondering when my conditions or policies will force you to cough up.
I bet you're wondering how far you now have danced moved back into dead.

This is the only kind of love
As I understand it that there really is.
You can express your deepest of thruths
Even if it means I'll lose you and I'll hear it.

You can fall into the abyss
On the way to your bliss
And I'll empathize with.
You can't say that you'll have to skip town
To chase your passion and I'll hear it.
You can leave and hit rock bottom have a mid-life chrisis and I'll hold it.

I really like those lyrics. They really resonate for me. Geez, I can see where I was once in their position, and somehow lost hold of it...

But anyway, I can appreciate Alanis's music. I don't have any of her cds so it's not something I listen to regularly, but she's a competent songwriter and at least she's not just writing simple fluffy I love you songs.
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sorry to rain on everyone's parade but i really don't like pj harvey. didn't like her previous to the U2 link but U2 fans were raving about her when she was added to the tour so i gave her a listen-really didn't enjoy her voice or music.

went into montreal 1, 2 to give her a live listen and her live show didn't do anything for me.

by the time i went to nj2 i drove to the stadium so that i would miss her.

i just don't see the brilliance of which y'all speak.
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sorry to rain on everyone's parade but i really don't like pj harvey. didn't like her previous to the U2 link but U2 fans were raving about her when she was added to the tour so i gave her a listen-really didn't enjoy her voice or music.

went into montreal 1, 2 to give her a live listen and her live show didn't do anything for me.

by the time i went to nj2 i drove to the stadium so that i would miss her.

i just don't see the brilliance of which y'all speak.
I'm going to have to agree with kobayashi here. There were a couple songs in her live set that were nice. Other than that the set was just too monotonous - loud, angry, and you could barely make out a word she said. Overall the music was just too dark and angry for me.
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I'm going to have to agree with kobayashi here. There were a couple songs in her live set that were nice. Other than that the set was just too monotonous - loud, angry, and you could barely make out a word she said. Overall the music was just too dark and angry for me.
PJ doesn't translate very well in an arena. I really dug her the nights I was way up front in the heart. I think she must be outstanding in a club environment. As far as her music...I think it's plain ol' brilliant. If you haven't taken the time to listen to her "Stories" album, you are truly cheating yourself.
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If you haven't taken the time to listen to her "Stories" album, you are truly cheating yourself.
ohhhh. i've gone and cheated myself.

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If you haven't taken the time to listen to her "Stories" album, you are truly cheating yourself.
"Stories" is probably her best work and it is so different from her previous albums. My only complaint is when she opened for U2 back at the Vancouver gig last April, she sang only 2-3 songs off "Stories", only one off of "To Bring You My Love" and so the rest was from her early work which is much more angry and less melodic than her recent stuff. Perhaps that's why you didn't like her Kobeson. But, you don't have to like her either. She's definately not for everyone.

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ohhhh. i've gone and cheated myself.

Silly kobesan.
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i bought the album and i really like it. i can see myself totally listening to it over and over again.

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I bought it, and so far Hands Clean is my favorite. I can see myself taking a few weeks to absorb it and get into it more.

Now P.J....P.J. is a goddess. (I scored as her for the music whore test too-woohoo!)



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I like Hands Clean and love the Under Rug Swept CD. I've always been a fan of the artistic qualities of Alanis. Alot of people don't "get" her, but she speaks straight to my emotions and heart. I've had it (Under Rug Swept) for over a month and a half now (via Internet download). It is a very very welcome breath of fresh air. I play Under Rug Swept very frequently these days.

I previewed the new Sheryl Crow off the net as well and with just a couple of exceptions, it looks to be very good and pleasing if you have enjoyed either of her last two albums.
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C'mon people, anyone who's gone through a painful breakup can appreciate her music. I can especially relate to the line in her new song: "'Cause you're such a pretty thing when you're done up properly. I might wanna marry you one day if you watch that weight and you keep a firm body." It reminds me of someone I know..... (*she says as she munches on a slim fast meal bar*)


Taken out of context, many of us can relate to this line. But the song is about an inappropriate sexual relationship with an underage girl--or at least that's how I hear it--which changes the meaning of those lyrics substantially.

I've been listening to the record a lot. I like it. She doesn't whine--it's very inspirational, in fact, for the most part, and very spiritual, too.

Here's my favorite song from the record:

"You Owe Me Nothing In Return"

I'll give you careless amounts of out right
Acceptance if you want it. I'll give you
Encouragement to choose the path you want if you need it.

You can speak of anger and doubts,
Your fears and freak-outs and I'll hold it.
You can share your so-called
Shamefilled accounts of times in your life and I won't judge it.

And there are no strings attached,
You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give.
You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have.
I give you thanks for receiving, it's my privilege,
And you owe me nothing in return.

You can ask for space for yourself
And only yourself and I'll grant it.
You can ask for freedom as was
Or time to revel and you'll have it.

You can ask to live by yourself
Or love someone else and I'll support it.
You can ask for anything you want
Anything at all and I'll understand it.

I bet you're wondering when
The next payback you'll eventually drop.
I bet you're wondering when my conditions or policies will force you to cough up.
I bet you're wondering how far you now have danced moved back into dead.

This is the only kind of love
As I understand it that there really is.
You can express your deepest of thruths
Even if it means I'll lose you and I'll hear it.

You can fall into the abyss
On the way to your bliss
And I'll empathize with.
You can't say that you'll have to skip town
To chase your passion and I'll hear it.
You can leave and hit rock bottom have a mid-life chrisis and I'll hold it.


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nah, Princess...sorry to hijack your thread. I'm glad you have found another artist you like...I'm just really unable to enjoy Alanis one bit. But hey, it's a free country.

I AM glad that you dig PJ Harvey, tho. She's something else, dontcha think??? I will forever be grateful to U2 for having her open for them on the first leg and introducing me to her music.
Ahh its cool, I understand we all don't like the same things.

She's truly amazin' I never heard such a powerful voice and guitar riffs that are just super- she's just natural at it which makes her music believable. I think I'm gonna have an affinity fer her if I hear another album that's great like this one. U2 know good music when they hear it I guess!

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Just want to say that I am also a huge PJ Harvey fan, and I find her a more interesting artist than Alanis overall.

I didn't really get into Alanis until one day after hearing "Thank U" a million times I heard it with new ears one day driving in my car. When she sang, "Thank you disillusionment" I burst into tears. I finally got it that day, because that's exactly where I was, feeling totally disillusioned and in that moment I understood how that would serve my spiritual growth. So what I like about Alanis is the simplicity of her lyrics--simple yet deep, in my opinion. And she also seems like a really together person when I've seen her interviewed--very kind and giving, is my impression.
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