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Old 10-30-2005, 02:57 PM   #106
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Oh.. I thought you meant in 1992! Okay, yeah.

Mine is Nov 10th... coming up.
You ARE older than me then

Are you gonna throw a party for us?
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Old 10-30-2005, 03:30 PM   #107
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I still have high hopes for you, but this is not the way to go.
would you please stop talking to cu7o like he's a red-head stepchild?

if you want to get into a battle of words, you have no idea who you're talking to.
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Old 10-30-2005, 03:39 PM   #108
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You ARE older than me then

Are you gonna throw a party for us?
Online party?

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Old 10-30-2005, 03:53 PM   #109
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Online party?

With drinks on the house
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With drinks on the house
we could all meet up at the virtual discotheque.... which is at the end of the information superhighway....
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if you want to get into a battle of words, you have no idea who you're talking to.
Layton can dish it out too. Like last time, it would be a two-way patronizing exchange that I'm just not interested enough to engage in.

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Old 10-30-2005, 05:42 PM   #112
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you fought the war

but the war won!?!?
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Old 10-30-2005, 08:15 PM   #113
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would you please stop talking to cu7o like he's a red-head stepchild?

if you want to get into a battle of words, you have no idea who you're talking to.
I know exactly who I'm talking to. Cujo and I got real cozy in the 'Radiohead's Biggest Weakness' thread. He's definately full of words. Some of them even focused.

He seemed well-versed in art theory, but I'm not sure he always knew when and where to apply those theories. He brings to mind a Bono quote prior to the release of ATYCLB about 'advancing toward simplicity'.

I believe that is one of U2's more brilliant artistic ideas. ATYCLB, among other things, really captures that idea of trimming out the excess and getting to the point. By his own admission, Cujo is a verbose guy. It's nothing that a solid dose of simplicity couldn't cure, though.
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atyclb really captures a band desperate to cash in.
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Layton can dish it out too. Like last time, it would be a two-way patronizing exchange that I'm just not interested enough to engage in.

I think you're a good guy. Sorry, if you disagree or dislike the above analyisis of you. Zoomerang put me up to it, though (I'm good at blaming others). He just had to come to your rescue.
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Old 10-30-2005, 08:28 PM   #116
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atyclb really captures a band desperate to cash in.
This response comes nowhere close to answering the previous questions I posed to the class. It also shows an overreliance on a braindead label (cash in).

Grade: F
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Old 10-30-2005, 08:31 PM   #117
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oh is that right? well how come i don't remember you ever making any of the interference power rankings?

hmm?
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To be honest this thread is pretty redundant. It’s just another rehash of a well worn discussion albeit with many more witticisms per head than usually is the case. Musical taste is purely subjective and therefore approaching such debates with an objective and even self righteous attitude isn’t going to endear you much to your sparing partner.

However, one can eventually convince people of their point and proselytize them if their arguments happen to be more subversive in regards to undermining their adversaries’ beliefs.

So with this in mind continue.

(Ah, good I can switch my brain of now.)
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If they really wanted to fight ageism in rock, shouldn't the goal be to continue pushing the envelope with their music and to keep trying to blow peoples' minds with their music as if there's no reason why being 45 should make them any less capable of it? Wouldn't that be a better fight against ageism in rock than making two records that basically say, 'we're 45 and we don't think we CAN make records that will blow your mind anymore so we're trying to be the pop band we're not instead'?
There's some really good points here. Neil Young might be a good example of a guy who's stuck to his guns and did it his way as he's gotten older. There's definately some respect that's filtered down to younger generations because of that.

The key here is that U2 are not and have never been a Neil Young type of artist. If U2 were to fight ageism in Rock, it would make sense to fight it the way they've fought all their other fights; loud, proud and taking on the whole world. One could argue that to do it any other way would constitute retreat on U2's part. I think the Larry and Bono quotes that Cujo brought up are basically saying that U2 has no retreat in them, right now. Definately not a band that sounds complacent to me.
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Zero Dude that was pretty heavy!
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