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Old 02-10-2008, 11:38 PM   #271
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This really has been a pretty decent show compared to the last few years!
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This really has been a pretty decent show compared to the last few years!
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I love how Kanye had already conceded a possible defeat to Amy earlier, and then was beat by someone else.

Do not underestimate the supreme majesty of Joni Mitchell, especially when combined with the legendary talents of Herbie Hancock. This was a refreshing win, because modern jazz goes largely unappreciated by the mainstream.
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Other than the bullshit that was Album of the Year, this as a whole, is probably the best Grammys I've ever seen.
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I love how Kanye had already conceded a possible defeat to Amy earlier, and then was beat by someone else.

Do not underestimate the supreme majesty of Joni Mitchell, especially when combined with the legendary talents of Herbie Hancock. This was a refreshing win, because modern jazz goes largely unappreciated by the mainstream.
I realize that Herbie Hancock is talented. However, I think it's completely unfair that an album full of someone else's songs wins an award by the artist doing the covers over original material. Just an opinion.
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Who won in that Alternative category with Arcade Fire, Bjork and others???

ETA: Never mind. The answer is on the official website on the winners list!
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I find it strange that Herbie Hancock was nominated for album of the year without being nominated for pretty much anything else. It's obviously a pat-on-the-back after years of ignoring the guy, rather than a deserved Grammy. As much as I love them, the same thing happened with Steely Dan in 2001.
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Herbie with Leonard Cohen, Joni Mitchell, and Tina Turner guest vocals beats out Kanye?

Love it!!
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I find it strange that Herbie Hancock was nominated for album of the year without being nominated for pretty much anything else. It's obviously a pat-on-the-back after years of ignoring the guy, rather than a deserved Grammy. As much as I love them, the same thing happened with Steely Dan in 2001.
I hate it when they do that. The same thing happened at the Oscars last year with Martin Scorcese finally winning Best Director...for The Departed. Honestly, it's more of an insult to the artist when they do something like that than it is to the other nominees. It's basically saying, "Sorry we passed on your brilliance earlier, but just in case you're not around much longer here's an award for some subpar work to make us look better."
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Wow, I go away and actually do some work for a few hours and this thread explodes!
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http://www.grammy.com/Grammy_Awards/50th_show/list.aspx

That's the link to the complete list of winners!
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Icky Thump was simply NOT the best alternative album of the year. Not even out of those nominees. It was good, but not great. Neon Bible and Wincing The Night Away were far better.

And Chemical Brothers winning over Sound Of Silver?

Oh, well. At least Winehouse got her due.
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Neon Bible was robbed!
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I find it strange that Herbie Hancock was nominated for album of the year without being nominated for pretty much anything else. It's obviously a pat-on-the-back after years of ignoring the guy, rather than a deserved Grammy. As much as I love them, the same thing happened with Steely Dan in 2001.

Steely Dan put out a great album that received great reviews. While not their best album, it was as deserving a nominee and winner as much as anything else there. Did you really expect something as marginal as Kid A, or as divisive as Eminem to win? Becker and Fagen are respected as two of the best songwriters in the business, and have seasoned professionals playing on their albums, engineered to perfection. Their win was not a crime, even if it seemed like a lifetime achievement after their 20 year absence.

As for Hancock, jazz, unlike rock or pop, is hard to get nommed in any crossover categories, and it wouldn't be likely to be up for Song of the Year or Record of the Year. So to say he wasn't nommed for anything else isn't really notable--he also won for Best Contemporary Jazz album, obviously

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I hate it when they do that. The same thing happened at the Oscars last year with Martin Scorcese finally winning Best Director...for The Departed. Honestly, it's more of an insult to the artist when they do something like that than it is to the other nominees. It's basically saying, "Sorry we passed on your brilliance earlier, but just in case you're not around much longer here's an award for some subpar work to make us look better."

Just because The Departed wasn't one of Marty's best doesn't mean he didn't deserve the award. It's the same thing as Steely Dan. He still directed his film better than anyone else who was nominated, regardless of the weight of the subject matter. Sure, I would have liked to have seen him win one of the last two times before that, but whatever. Is it a partial make up award? Obviously the voters thought the film was good enough to give it Best Picture and Best Screenplay as well.

Herbie Hancock didn't just cover a bunch of Joni Mitchell songs. He used her lyrics and music as a jumping-off point, and some of those songs have wildly different arrangements. It's more of a collaboration than anything else, and a far more deserving Ablum of the Year winner than Natalie Cole, who won (over Achtung Baby) with an album duetting on previously recorded songs with her dead father. That's a bullshit win, as were Eric Clapton and Tony Bennett's Unplugged albums winning.
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