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Old 02-02-2006, 07:18 PM   #1
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2 Underrated REM songs

Swan Swan H

Swan, swan, hummingbird
Hurrah, we are all free now
What noisy cats are we
Girl and dog he bore his cross
A long, low time ago, people talk to me




King Of Birds

A thumbnail sketch, a jeweler's stone
A mean idea to call my own
Old man don't lay so still you're not yet young
There's time to teach, point to point,
Point observation, children carry reservations
Standing on the shoulders of giants leaves me cold, leaves me cold.
A mean idea to call my own, a hundred million birds fly




Stipe sings so beautifully in both these songs! Life's Rich Pageant is probably their best 80s album, if not the best ever! And Document isn't far behind IMO.

God, 80s REM is so criminally underrated compared to the monsters (pun intended) of the 90s!!!
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I love 80's REM. No so fond of the rest.

Kinda reminds me of my favourite era of another longtime band....

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i hate swan swan h. but the rest of life's rich pageant is brilliant. well, except for under the bunker, too...but it's a great album.
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lifes rich pageant (there's no apostrophe in "lifes" because the one on michael stipe's typewriter didn't work when he wrote the title, hence the intentional error) is my favorite R.E.M. album.

flowers of guatemala totally fucking beautiful. begin the begin and these days kick ass and take names. the banjo on I Believe!

I can't get enough.
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Green is my favourite 80's R.E.M album...I think it's underrated and underappreciated. It's got Orange Crush, which is one of my favourite songs.

It might be sacrilegious to say, but I actually think the 90's stuff is more interesting. New Adventures in Hi-Fi , for example, is brilliant...
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flowers of guatemala totally fucking beautiful. begin the begin and these days kick ass and take names. the banjo on I Believe!

I can't get enough.
Oh absolutely! The album's filled with brilliant songs from top to bottom! It's probably their most joyous and rocking album I guess, upto that point! I even like Underneath The Bunker.

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It might be sacrilegious to say, but I actually think the 90's stuff is more interesting. New Adventures in Hi-Fi , for example, is brilliant...
Oh of course! Are you kidding? Everything from Out Of Time down to Up...
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We've definitely got a lot of common ground here. New Adventures is my 2nd favorite R.E.M. album (so damned ambitious!), and like you, Zoot, I tuned out after Up. The band really showed their age on the last two records, and the difference between Out of Time/Automatic and Reveal/Around the Sun is that the first two have fucking SONGS on them.

And I never thought I would say this, but I like Michael Stipe's lyrics better before he printed them in the album inserts. Because they ain't lookin' too good lately.

The one thing I have to disagree about on the last two posts is about Green. If there's an album that makes a case for NOT signing to a major label...well it just sounds like a bit of a sellout. I understand the irony of Pop Song 89 and Stand, but the band completely lost their organic sound on Green, and it's a very cold record. I think Orange Crush is phenomenal, and You Are The Everything and World Leader Pretend are two of their best. But there's filler of a lesser quality not found on most R.E.M. albums. Hairshirt? The Empty FUCKING Child? Even catchy tunes like Get Up and the aforementioned Pop Song are about as deep as a dixie cup. Plus I've always hated Stand.

Compared to its predecessor Document, which is a masterpiece, Green just doesn't cut the mustard. And the next album was the lush breakthrough Out of Time which sounds like a band with 10 more years of sophisitication, musicianship, and songwriting skill under their belts, when the album only came out 2 years later. Green was the college crossover hit when it came out, and carries a lot of memories for people, but honestly, if I want to hear R.E.M. rock out with less epic material, I'll listen to Monster, which kicks so many kinds of ass, and is the real underrated album in their discography.
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Compared to its predecessor Document, which is a masterpiece, Green just doesn't cut the mustard. And the next album was the lush breakthrough Out of Time which sounds like a band with 10 more years of sophisitication, musicianship, and songwriting skill under their belts, when the album only came out 2 years later. Green was the college crossover hit when it came out, and carries a lot of memories for people, but honestly, if I want to hear R.E.M. rock out with less epic material, I'll listen to Monster, which kicks so many kinds of ass, and is the real underrated album in their discography.
I agree completely! I've never been a big fan of Green, it's a mixed bag! Although... World Leader Pretend is awesome! And nice to see another Monster lover! Monster rules.
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I miss Bill Berry.

They haven't been the same since he left.

Up. Reveal. Around The Sun. All nice records, yet something is missing.

It would appear Bill Berry was the key to REM being great. He did a hell of alot more than play solid 4/4 beats.

The sum is greater than the parts.
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lifes rich pageant (there's no apostrophe in "lifes" because the one on michael stipe's typewriter didn't work when he wrote the title, hence the intentional error) is my favorite R.E.M. album.

flowers of guatemala totally fucking beautiful. begin the begin and these days kick ass and take names. the banjo on I Believe!

I can't get enough.
the banjo on i believe is one of the reasons i like that song so much.

didn't know that about the lack of apostrophe. i seem to have mentally inserted one every time i've read the album title
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glad to see some fans of monster on this board...i really love that album.

and i miss bill berry too. i'm really sad that i never got to see them live when he was still in the band.
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I need to dig out Life's Rich Pageant again...I think it was the highwatermark of the "early" era, it rocked and was well-produced.
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I need to dig out Lifes Rich Pageant again...I think it was the highwatermark of the "early" era, it rocked and was well-produced.
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Hey gang, let's all rank the REM albums. If someone wants to start a poll.....

Life's Rich Pageant
Murmur
Automatic
Document
Green
Reckoning
Out of Time
Fables
New Adventures
Up
Monster
Reveal
Around the Sun

I excluded Dead Letter Office due to it being a comp.
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A poll would require 6227020800 options to vote for....
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