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Old 01-13-2007, 02:03 AM   #1
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1970's "Super Slam" - Prog Rock or Punk Rock?

Pink Floyd or The Ramones?

Yes or The Clash?

Genesis or The Sex Pistols?
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This isn't even a contest. Prog = the best music.

(Though I do prefer modern prog over the classic seventies prog.)
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Prog musicians could actually play their instruments.
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This isn't even a contest. Prog = the best music.

(Though I do prefer modern prog over the classic seventies prog.)
QFT!

Though I prefer classic prog over modern day prog.

Yes, Pink Floyd, Focus, Renaissance, Utopia, Genesis, and The Alan Parsons Project...just to name a few.

Now I'm off to listen to Tales Of Mystery and Imagination.
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Perfection over passion?

Virtuosity over venom?

Agility over anger?





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Perfection over passion?

Virtuosity over venom?

Agility over anger?
I would argue that Prog Rock is capable of both perfection and passion, perhaps more passion than punk rock. Prog is not the polished genre that people assume it is. It can be venomous and angry.
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I would argue that Prog Rock is capable of both perfection and passion, perhaps more passion than punk rock. Prog is not the polished genre that people assume it is. It can be venomous and angry.
Please, elaborate on how Prog rock is more passionate than Punk rock.
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Some musicians can know every scale and wank all they want and still never achieve any real emotion, and some musicians may only know a few chords and put any poet to shame.
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I would argue that Prog Rock is capable of both perfection and passion, perhaps more passion than punk rock. Prog is not the polished genre that people assume it is. It can be venomous and angry.
I agree. The idea that prog lacks passion or anger is a myth. Do I even need to point any further than Shine On You Crazy Diamond for emotion? If I do, Steven Wilson is CLEARLY not a happy man in Porcupine Tree's The Sound Of Muzak. There's more venom - more clearly focused venom too - in that song than any punk track I've ever heard.
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Some musicians can know every scale and wank all they want and still never achieve any real emotion, and some musicians may only know a few chords and put any poet to shame.
you mean this dude?

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There's more venom - more clearly focused venom too - in that song than any punk track I've ever heard.
How many Clash records have you heard?

You need Clash records.
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Okay,

The rage in Punk Rock gets tuned out after a while. You can't tell me that the majority of punk rock retains its passion over years and multiple listens. The problem with punk rock is that it is straight forward. With Prog Rock on the otherhand, the passion and fury are built up by a story or simply its complexity. Take The Knife by Genesis for example. The song has real passion but depth to keep it fresh.

Simply put, Punk Rock ceases to be passionate over time while Prog Rock with its depth can keep the passion fresh and unique. Punk Rock is like a slasher film that you swear you've seen a hundred times before. The characters change but the gore remains the same. At some point there's no passion left. At the end of the day, Punk Rock is just annoying feedback from an amp.
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Okay,

The rage in Punk Rock gets tuned out after a while. You can't tell me that the majority of punk rock retains its passion over years and multiple listens. The problem with punk rock is that it is straight forward. With Prog Rock on the otherhand, the passion and fury are built up by a story or simply its complexity. Take The Knife by Genesis for example. The song has real passion but depth to keep it fresh.

Simply put, Punk Rock ceases to be passionate over time while Prog Rock with its depth can keep the passion fresh and unique. Punk Rock is like a slasher film that you swear you've seen Like an a hundred times before. The characters change but the gore remains the same. At some point there's no passion left. At the end of the day, Punk Rock is just annoying feedback from an amp.
I'd say prog rock is like fucking a chick whilst reading a manual about sex. Checking each step. Double checking each step. Asking her if it's ok with her.

And punk rock is just kinda "going at it." Like a wild animal.

They both have their place. But one puts a bigger grin on my face than the other.

Not to mention her face.
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