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Old 12-09-2007, 04:23 PM   #16
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Oh and Plastic Ono Band and the Imagine albums prove he was still capable of genuinely great things outside of The Beatles.
The sum is bigger than the parts was true for that band too.

RIP to one half of an amazing songwriting team and the biggest band.
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Old 12-09-2007, 05:57 PM   #17
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You're really giving Yoko and Klaus Voorman a little too much credit.

Does your defense of Paul stretch that far you have to claim collective effort with The Plastic Ono Band?

No.

The Wings was much more of a collaborative effort, toward the realization of some serious 70's mediocrity.
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Can we not turn this into a Paul-bashing thread? It's possible to praise Lennon (or mourn him) without dragging the other guy into it.

It's hard not to wonder what Lennon might have done. Were his last albums indicative of what future music might have been like? Would he have collaborated with his sons?

I know sometimes I roll my eyes at how much god-like status Lennon is awarded, but I'm so sorry he's gone.
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I have a picture sleeve 7" copy of Just Like Starting Over, b/w Kiss Kiss Kiss.

I'll mail it to whoever wants it.
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R.I.P. John
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You're really giving Yoko and Klaus Voorman a little too much credit.

Does your defense of Paul stretch that far you have to claim collective effort with The Plastic Ono Band?

No.

The Wings was much more of a collaborative effort, toward the realization of some serious 70's mediocrity.
Just to clarify if this is meant for me, I was referring to the Beatles, not Plastic Ono Band or Wings.
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Then your post implies that I was implying Lennon's solo band(s) were collaborative, and I don't know where you'd get that from.

I agree with you, though, in that The Beatles were even greater than the sum of their great works. Lennon's solo work is spotty, but the bright moments are almost completely because of him and him alone.
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RIP John. I can't believe it's been that long.
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On the 15th anniversary of John's death, my friend and I visited Strawberry Fields in NYC's Central Park. We sang songs and drank warm beverages allegedly sent from Yoko. It was an amazing gathering to say the least. Later in the evening, we made our way over to the place where John was shot. Like many others, it was tough visiting the spot. I took a few moments to take in the environment and then moved on. I was 8 years old when John died and from that day forward John was always going to be a part of me and if I'm ever a dad, I will make sure my kids know about him.
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Then your post implies that I was implying Lennon's solo band(s) were collaborative, and I don't know where you'd get that from.

I was only replying to Devil's shoes post on his solo work being as good as Beatles songs.

He probably got to that closer than anyone of them solo with Imagine and Give peace a chance though.

(It's hard to speculate how much John did in Plastic Ono Band or how much Paul did in Wings.)
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To me, Wings sounds like a "band". McCartney wrote most of the songs himself (possibly cowriting with Linda on some?), but there's certainly a lot more instrumentation and arrangement than what you find on Lennon's stuff, which for the most part has a bit rougher quality to it. I don't mean to say that Wings is overproduced, but the sound was more substantial. Having said that, I still think that overall the output of Wings was rather mediocre, esp. compared to many of the other bands around at the time.
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Well, this thread was supposed to be a forum to air thoughts on the death of John Lennon 27 years ago. Not a debate on John and Paul's post-Beatles musical output. But, since you've started a discussion, I'll just add that, indicative of their respective personalities, John's production was more raw and unpolished while Paul's production was poppier and less edgy.(ie, radio friendly) Paul was a notoriously huge herbsman, so that always endeared him to me anyway.
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