U2 World Tour 2005-2006 (predicted markets)

[NoControl]

Ok, here's where I think U2 will be performing on their upcoming tour next year. Keep in mind this is only a prediction and these and are not necessarily the actual markets that they will be playing.

Not exactly sure how I feel they'll price overseas tickets but in North America U2's ticket prices will most likely be $50/100/150.

The venues in London, Dublin, Melbourne, Lyon, Paris, Florence, Berlin, Marseilles, New York City have all had unconfirmed reports that there are going be shows at those particular sites.


1st leg – North America

March/April/May (Arenas - 270* & 360 end stage configurations)

Miami, FL – American Airlines Arena (19,000/Sold Out)
Orlando, FL – TD Waterhouse Center (15,000/Sold Out)
Atlanta, GA – Philips Arena (18,000/ Sold Out)
Pittsburgh, PA – Mellon Arena (12,000*/Sold Out)
Cincinnati, OH – US Bank Arena (17,000/Sold Out)
Chicago, IL – United Center (2 shows) (40,000/Sold Out)
St. Paul, MN – Xcel Energy Center (14,000*/Sold Out)
Milwaukee, WI – Bradley Center (15,000/Sold Out)
Auburn Hills, MI (Detroit area) – The Palace (20,000/Sold Out)
Toronto, ON – Air Canada Centre (19,000/Sold Out)
Ottawa, ON – Corel Centre (18,000/Sold Out)
Montreal, QC – Bell Centre (21,000/Sold Out)
Boston, MA – Fleet Center (2 shows) (33,000/Sold Out)
Hartford, CT – Civic Center (15,000/Sold Out)
Washington, DC – MCI Center (19,000/Sold Out)
Philadelphia, PA – First Union Center (20,000/Sold Out)
New York City, NY – Madison Square Garden (3 shows) (54,000/Sold Out)
New Orleans, LA – Arena (15,000/15,000)
Dallas, TX – American Airlines Center (18,000/Sold Out)
Houston, TX – Toyota Center (15,000/Sold Out)
San Antonio, TX – SBC Center (14,000*/Sold Out)
Denver, CO – Pepsi Center (18,000/ Sold Out)
Vancouver, BC – GM Place (18,000/Sold Out)
Seattle, WA – Key Arena (16,000/Sold Out)
Portland, OR – Rose Garden (12,000*/Sold Out)
Salt Lake City, UT – Delta Center (14,000*/Sold Out)
Las Vegas, NV – MGM Grand (13,000*/Sold Out)
Phoenix, AZ – America West Arena (17,000/Sold Out)
Oakland, CA – Arena (19,000/Sold Out)
San Diego, CA – Sports Arena (14,000/Sold Out)
Los Angeles, CA – Staples Center (2 shows) (35,000/Sold Out)


2nd Leg – Europe

June/July (Stadiums - 180 & 270 end stage configurations)

Amsterdam, Netherlands – Arena (2 shows) (100,000/Sold Out)
Basel, Switzerland – St. Jacob’s Park (40,000/Sold Out)
Hanover, Germany – AWD Stadium (40,000/Sold Out)
Gothenburg, Sweden – Ullevi Stadium (50,000/Sold Out)
Copenhagen, Denmark – Parken (45,000/Sold Out)
Helsinki, Finland – Olimpic Stadion (50,000/Sold Out)
Oslo, Norway – Vallehovin (40,000/Sold Out)
Werchter, Belgium – Festwise (50,000/Sold Out)
Milan, Italy – Giuseppe Meazza (65,000/Sold Out)
Rome, Italy - Stadio Olimpico (60,000/Sold Out)
Florence, Italy – Stadio Artemio Franchi (40,000/Sold Out)
Lisbon, Portugal – Alavade Stadium (60,000/Sold Out)
Barcelona, Spain – Olympic Stadium (45,000/Sold Out)
Madrid, Spain – Vincente Calderon Stadium (60,000/Sold Out)
Wiener Neustadt, Austria (Vienna area) – Flugfield ( 73,000/50,000)
Cologne, Germany – Rhein-Energy Stadion (50,000/Sold Out)
Berlin, Germany – Olympic Stadium (Half House) (40,000/30,000)
Stuttgart, Germany – Gottlieb-Daimler Stadion (40,000/Sold Out)
Paris, France – Parc de Prince (60,000/Sold Out)
Lyon, France – Stade Gerland (35,000/Sold Out)
Marseilles, France – Stade Velodromo (35,000/Sold Out)
Edinburgh, Scotland – Murrayfield Stadium (60,000/50,000)
Leeds, England – Roundhay Park (80,000/50,000)
Twickenham, England (London area) – Football Grounds (2 shows) (120,000/Sold Out)
Belfast, N. Ireland – Botanical Gardens (40,000/Sold Out)
Dublin, Ireland – Corke Park (2 shows) (150,000/Sold Out)


3rd leg – North America

September/October (Stadiums/Amphitheaters/Arenas - 180, 270 & 360 end stage configurations)

E. Rutherford, NJ (New York City area) – Giants Stadium (2 shows) (110,000/Sold Out)
Foxboro, MA (Boston area) – Gillette Stadium (50,000/Sold Out)
Bristow, VA (Washington, DC area) – Nissan Pavilion ( 25,000/Sold Out)
Camden, NJ (Philadelphia area) – Tweeter Center (25,000/Sold Out)
Montreal, QC – Parc de Drapeau (42,000/35,000)
Toronto, ON – Skydome (Half House) (35,000/35,000)
Clarkston, MI (Detroit area) – DTE Energy Music Center (15,000/Sold Out)
Chicago, IL – Solider Field (50,000/Sold Out)
Engelwood, CO (Denver area) – Coors Amphitheater (18,000/Sold Out)
Omaha, NE – Qwest Center (15,000/Sold Out)
Winnipeg, MB – MTS Centre (2 shows) (30,000/Sold Out)
Edmonton, AB – Rexall Place (2 shows) (35,000/Sold Out)
Mountain View, CA (San Francisco area) – Shoreline Amphitheater (2 shows) (40,000/Sold Out)
Hollywood, CA (LA area) – Hollywood Bowl (2 shows) (37,000/Sold Out)
Mexico City, MX – Autodromo (50,000/Sold Out)
Phoenix, AZ – Cricket Pavilion (20,000/Sold Out)
The Woodlands, TX (Houston area) – CW Mitchell Pavilion (16,000/Sold Out)
Dallas, TX – Smirnoff Music Center (20,000/Sold Out)
Atlanta, GA – Hi-Fi Buys Amphitheater (20,000/Sold Out)
West Palm Beach, FL (Miami area) – Sound Advice Amphitheater (20,000/Sold Out)


4th leg – South America, Australia, New Zealand & Japan


January/Febraury/March 2006 (Stadiums - 180 & 270 end stage configurations)

Lima, Peru – Monumental (60,000/Sold Out)
Santiago, Chile – Estadio Nationale (60,000/Sold Out)
Buenos Aires, Argentina – River Plate Stadium (3 shows) (160,000/Sold Out)
Sao Paulo, Brazil – Morumbi Stadium (2 shows) (155,000/Sold Out)
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil – Maracana Stadium (60,000/Sold Out)
Tokyo, Japan – Dome (40,000/35,000)
Wellington, New Zealand – Westpac Trust Stadium (35,000/ Sold Out)
Perth, Australia - Burswood Dome (14,000/14,000)
Adelaide, Australia – Football Park (30,000/20,000)
Melbourne, Australia – Cricket Grounds (55,000/Sold Out)
Brisbane, Australia – ANZ Stadium (45,000/35,000)
Sydney, Australia – Telstra Stadium (80,000/Sold Out)


3.2 million people will have seen them by tour's end.

[lukea]

A few quick thoughts from someone in the industry...

Why would U2 play 270 config's in the markets you selected? I don't get it. U2 in St. Paul is an instant sellout, so you *don't* sell the seats behind the stage? Explain that one to me. Besides, even though St. Paul's the hot venue, Clear Channel will book it at Target Center (more seats to sell, mainly... although CCE shows always go to Target and Xcel is almost exclusively Jam)

They won't play New Orleans, San Antonio, or Orlando on the first leg, or any of them, for that matter. All three are bad markets for them, and are bad rock concert markets period. Same reason why they won't play Jacksonville even because of the new arena- Jax only sold 18,000 tickets for Popmart!

U2 wants nothing to do with the casinos in Vegas, which is why they played Thomas & Mack over MGM last time (and this time too).

U2, with the exception of Red Rocks on the War Tour, Compton Terrace on UF tour, and Tweeter Center Chicago on ZOO TV Outside Broadcast, has NEVER played sheds (IE, Nissan Pavilion, DTE Center, and so on), and won't start on this tour. The quote from the guy at Bill Graham Presents was misinterpreted- U2 won't be appearing at Shoreline- ever. Not only is the amphitheater model "dead", it would also be incredibly stupid. Yeah, they'd sell 20000 tickets, but 12000 of those are general admission lawn seats which could only sell for $45-$50!

Plus, as we all know, U2's tours are always about a grand concept. U2 wouldn't mount a tour that was a mixture of stadiums, sheds, and arenas- it would be one only.

It will be very interesting to see if U2 really does take the tour to stadiums. If they do a full blast stadium tour in Europe, they'll already have the sets/lighting/effects, so a 15-20 date stadium tour in major markets at $75 a ticket would work out fairly well. With U2, it's all about how many shows they want to do- there are plenty of great markets that get skipped over tour after tour, although a few (Omaha and Oklahoma City, two off the top of my head) will get dates this time around.

[NoControl]

Originally posted by lukea
A few quick thoughts from someone in the industry...

Why would U2 play 270 config's in the markets you selected? I don't get it. U2 in St. Paul is an instant sellout, so you *don't* sell the seats behind the stage? Explain that one to me.

It's quite simple, really. I don't believe they'll sell as many tickets in those markets this time around. On the Elevation tour, Portland, Cleveland, Minneapolis and Tacoma crawled their way too sellouts and there were a few shows that didn't sellout:

Tampa (only 16,000 of 20,000)
St. Louis (only 16,000 of 19,000)
Kansas City (only 14,500 of 20,000)
Sacramento (only 15,893 of 17,000)
Lexington (technically it only sold out in 270 configuration)
Columbus (technically it only sold out in 270 configuration)

Originally posted by lukea
Besides, even though St. Paul's the hot venue, Clear Channel will book it at Target Center (more seats to sell, mainly... although CCE shows always go to Target and Xcel is almost exclusively Jam)

You're right, I'll revise it to the Target Center if I can.

Originally posted by lukea
They won't play New Orleans, San Antonio, or Orlando on the first leg, or any of them, for that matter. All three are bad markets for them, and are bad rock concert markets period. Same reason why they won't play Jacksonville even because of the new arena- Jax only sold 18,000 tickets for Popmart!

Well, that's your opinion.

U2 sold 21,000 tickets in New Orleans and San Antonio in '97. So, I don't see how they won't play there, regardless if it's not on a first leg. For example the Houston PopMart show sold 21,000 too and they played their on the Elevation tour. Also, the Jacksonville show sold 21,000 tickets as well, not 18,000.

San Antonio is not a bad concert market. For example it's Rush's largest Texan market for their past two tours.

Originally posted by lukea
U2 wants nothing to do with the casinos in Vegas, which is why they played Thomas & Mack over MGM last time (and this time too).

Really? Then why are they seen gambling in this city on ABC's PopMart tv special in April of '97?

Originally posted by lukea
U2, with the exception of Red Rocks on the War Tour, Compton Terrace on UF tour, and Tweeter Center Chicago on ZOO TV Outside Broadcast, has NEVER played sheds (IE, Nissan Pavilion, DTE Center, and so on), and won't start on this tour. The quote from the guy at Bill Graham Presents was misinterpreted- U2 won't be appearing at Shoreline- ever. Not only is the amphitheater model "dead", it would also be incredibly stupid. Yeah, they'd sell 20000 tickets, but 12000 of those are general admission lawn seats which could only sell for $45-$50!

So what? It doesn't necessarily mean they won't play them! And the amphitheater mode isn't dead. Many more acts than ever before have been touring in them every Spring, Summer and early Fall nowadays. It's all conducive to how many people they'll draw in each market and amphitheaters for the markets I've choosen (including the return engagments to their larger markets) will fit the attendances more accurately than most stadiums. And hitting markets like Detroit, Atlanta and Dallas a second time around and expecting them to fill stadiums like the Silverdome, Texas Stadium or the Georgia Dome won't happen. Maybe on the first time through but on a return engagement? I don't think so. It would be Popmart all over again.

Originally posted by lukea
Plus, as we all know, U2's tours are always about a grand concept. U2 wouldn't mount a tour that was a mixture of stadiums, sheds, and arenas- it would be one only.

Really? Then why did they do a mix of arenas & stadiums on the Joshua Tree, Zoo TV, and Elevation tour?

Originally posted by lukea
It will be very interesting to see if U2 really does take the tour to stadiums.

U2 aren't popular enough anymore to fill stadiums in most North American markets at the prices they're charging nowdays, at least in North America...and they know it...

Originally posted by lukea
If they do a full blast stadium tour in Europe, they'll already have the sets/lighting/effects, so a 15-20 date stadium tour in major markets at $75 a ticket would work out fairly well.

They will do stadiums there. Europe is a larger market than North America is for them.

Originally posted by lukea
With U2, it's all about how many shows they want to do- there are plenty of great markets that get skipped over tour after tour, although a few (Omaha and Oklahoma City, two off the top of my head) will get dates this time around.

We will see. I don't think all the shows I listed will be correct, but most of them most definitely will...

[lukea]

"It's quite simple, really. I don't believe they'll sell as many tickets in those markets this time around. On the Elevation tour, Portland, Cleveland, Minneapolis and Tacoma crawled their way too sellouts and there were a few shows that didn't sellout:

Tampa (only 16,000 of 20,000)
St. Louis (only 16,000 of 19,000)
Kansas City (only 14,500 of 20,000)
Sacramento (only 15,893 of 17,000)
Lexington (technically it only sold out in 270 configuration)
Columbus (technically it only sold out in 270 configuration)"

ME: The first four you listed didn't sell out only because they were extremely late additions in that late November time- they would all instantly sell out. Tampa is a soft market in particular, which is why they'll skip nearby neighbor Orlando.

Minny is a great concert town, wonder why they are not behind U2...

Lexington was booked because A)- they couldn't get Louisville, even though the route was coordinated for it to the the "Derby Show" and B)- Cinci still banned GA setups. It was bad from the beginning. I agree about Columbus- I think Cleveland is the only city U2 hits on this tour.

"Really? Then why are they seen gambling in this city on ABC's PopMart tv special in April of '97?"

ME: I should have been clearer- not only is the rent sky high at MGM, but the casino demands a part of the action, and usually requires acts to charge much more in ticket prices. It's not because they have some moral opposition to gambling.

"So what? It doesn't necessarily mean they won't play them! And the amphitheater mode isn't dead. Many more acts than ever before have been touring in them every Spring, Summer and early Fall nowadays. It's all conducive to how many people they'll draw in each market and amphitheaters for the markets I've choosen (including the return engagments to their larger markets) will fit the attendances more accurately than most stadiums. And hitting markets like Detroit, Atlanta and Dallas a second time around and expecting them to fill stadiums like the Silverdome, Texas Stadium or the Georgia Dome won't happen. Maybe on the first time through but on a return engagement? I don't think so. It would be Popmart all over again."

ME: U2's prestige precludes them from playing sheds, especially after this past summer's fallout in the model. Period. I mean, it's laughable. Even if U2 came to CCE and told them they wanted to play sheds, they wouldn't do it. If it came down to U2 that the only way they could do repeat markets if they played sheds, they wouldn't tour. It's as simple as that. They don't need the money that bad. Plus, U2 is not a shed act in terms of their demographic, either- it would be insanely foolish.

In regards to the stadiums... (if it even happens, and I tend to doubt it will) it would only hit the MAJOR, MAJOR markets. And if they did play stadiums in those mid-level markets, they'd play the baseball stadiums- not football.

"Really? Then why did they do a mix of arenas & stadiums on the Joshua Tree, Zoo TV, and Elevation tour?"

ME: They played two stadium dates on Elevation and a couple dates at Slane- all North America gigs were arenas. Zoo TV had separate arena legs and stadium legs- they didn't co-exist. Only reason why Chicago's Zoo TV Outside Broadcast was at the shed is because the promoter owned the venue and was gung ho about putting all their shows there. Joshua Tree doesn't count because there was no overhead production aspect, and simply booked venues based on what the local promoter wanted.

"U2 aren't popular enough anymore to fill stadiums in most North American markets at the prices they're charging nowdays, at least in North America...and they know it..."

ME: If the first leg was stadiums, they could sell 30,000 tickets at $75 a pop in markets like Atlanta, provided the album has momentum and there is a tasteful stage spectacle involved. There is enough momentum from the last tour/album for that to happen.

Unless the album REALLY takes off, the only reason why you would do repeat markets with stadiums in the late summer/fall is because you've already paid for the stage setup from Europe, and would stand to make some money/a lot of publicity with some high profile gigs at places like Giants Stadium and Fenway Park. You better believe they could sell 80,000 tickets for two shows at Fenway park at $75 a ticket.

"They will do stadiums there. Europe is a larger market than North America is for them."

ME: That's not true- it's just *different*.

"We will see. I don't think all the shows I listed will be correct, but most of them most definitely will..."

ME: The obvious choices, yes, but the amphitheaters part... sorry, will never happen.

[NoControl]

Originally posted by lukea ME: The first four you listed didn't sell out only because they were extremely late additions in that late November time- they would all instantly sell out. Tampa is a soft market in particular, which is why they'll skip nearby neighbor Orlando.

For the past seven years, Tampa has been a soft market indeed but that's why I think they'll play Orlando, which they haven't played since '85. They're not going to just play the South of Florida and nowhere else in the state. And the reason why they didn't sell out Tampa, St. Louis and Kansas City in 2001 is because their ticket prices were too high.

Originally posted by lukea I think Cleveland is the only city U2 hits on this tour.

Cincinnati has now lifted the ban on GA...

Originally posted by lukea ME: I should have been clearer- not only is the rent sky high at MGM, but the casino demands a part of the action, and usually requires acts to charge much more in ticket prices. It's not because they have some moral opposition to gambling.

Well then, the Thomas & Mack it is.

Originally posted by lukea ME: U2's prestige precludes them from playing sheds, especially after this past summer's fallout in the model. Period.

Ok, what are you on about? Fallout? Fallout from what? And prestige has nothing to with it. Money does. And Clear Channel own most major amphitheaters - therefore they'd make more money booking them into sheds where it's conducive to do so.

Originally posted by lukea I mean, it's laughable. Even if U2 came to CCE and told them they wanted to play sheds, they wouldn't do it. If it came down to U2 that the only way they could do repeat markets if they played sheds, they wouldn't tour. It's as simple as that.

Ok, you've totally lost me here. And I only have 13 of the 25 second leg proposed dates in sheds. Chill out.

Originally posted by lukea They don't need the money that bad. Plus, U2 is not a shed act in terms of their demographic, either- it would be insanely foolish.

Huh? Demographics have very little to do with where shows are booked. All sorts of age groups attend concerts wherever they happen to be held, regradless of where it's held (apart from small clubs where age limits obviously occur).

Rush just sold 425,000 tickets to 42 shows this Summer in North America and 38 of them were in sheds (just about all of the shows would have been in sheds if Montreal and Vegas had them). You know why they were booked into them? Because a) CC owns them and can make a shitload of money by selling tickets, beer, etc., and b) it's conducive to the attendances that they would be able to draw in each of the markets that they would play in. Rush had only started playing sheds mainly in the past 7 years.

Originally posted by lukea In regards to the stadiums... (if it even happens, and I tend to doubt it will) it would only hit the MAJOR, MAJOR markets. And if they did play stadiums in those mid-level markets, they'd play the baseball stadiums- not football.

Agreed but they wouldn't play very many baseball stadiums if at all because the Baseball playoffs are in the late Summer & early Fall and hence would be difficult to book the appropriate venue. So I guess you think they'll exclusively play arenas on the second leg then?

[i]ME: They played two stadium dates on Elevation and a couple dates at Slane- all North America gigs were arenas.

They played three Stadium shows in Arnhem, Netherlands and one in Turin, Italy. Those with the two Slane Castle shows equal 6 Stadiums sized shows.

Originally posted by lukea "Zoo TV had separate arena legs and stadium legs- they didn't co-exist.

U2 played Flugfield (80,000) in Vienna in May '92 on the European arena leg of the Zoo TV tour. Paul McGuiness would've booked more stadium shows on this leg but couldn't. They also played this venue in '97.

Originally posted by lukea "Only reason why Chicago's Zoo TV Outside Broadcast was at the shed is because the promoter owned the venue and was gung ho about putting all their shows there.

So what? It's an amphitheater and they still played there, didn't they?

Originally posted by lukea "Joshua Tree doesn't count because there was no overhead production aspect, and simply booked venues based on what the local promoter wanted.

So what? It was still a mix of arenas & stadiums. That's what I was getting at.

Originally posted by lukea "ME: If the first leg was stadiums, they could sell 30,000 tickets at $75 a pop in markets like Atlanta, provided the album has momentum and there is a tasteful stage spectacle involved. There is enough momentum from the last tour/album for that to happen.

But the prices won't average $75 this time out, that was the Elevation tour. They'll increase prices next year as usual and they'll be an average of $100. And since U2 standarize their ticket prices, they only way they'll lower them is if their new album tanks or they want to exclusively play stadiums on the second North American leg.

Originally posted by lukea "ME: That's not true- it's just *different*.

I don't agree.

Originally posted by lukea ""We will see. I don't think all the shows I listed will be correct, but most of them most definitely will..."

ME: The obvious choices, yes, but the amphitheaters part... sorry, will never happen.

We'll know when the second North American leg is announced, probably in the Summer.

[tarquinsuperb]

I'd just like to add one thing I don't think you covered the press in the UK and Ireland will absolutely eat them alive, if the US gets arenas and they don't. And IMO rightly so.
I really can't see this tour being that North America centric this time, partly because it was last time and partly because of economics, better to be taking Euro's, Sterling and Aussie Dollars than American Dollars at the moment.

[mikeuk]

Originally posted by tarquinsuperb
I'd just like to add one thing I don't think you covered the press in the UK and Ireland will absolutely eat them alive, if the US gets arenas and they don't. And IMO rightly so.
I really can't see this tour being that North America centric this time, partly because it was last time and partly because of economics, better to be taking Euro's, Sterling and Aussie Dollars than American Dollars at the moment.

Absolutely `spot on'. And of course it's about time the tour schedule reflected where U2 actually sells albums - esp for those in South America & Australasia.


Mike

[The_acrobat]

On the Elevation tour anyways, half the ticket sales for a particular venue paid all the bills, salaries, etc. Anything after that is pure profit, and I imagine this tour would be no different if it were arenas. I feel that they should definately stick with arenas in America. Stadium shows just simply don't fly in North America. The Stones have even had to downsize to arenas, except in larger markets. Springsteen was a phenomena in the Northeast portion of the country, but in LA and San Fran, for instance, he only managed one stadium show. They could do stadiums with great ease in Europe, though. And in South America, other parts of the world. Therein which lies the problem. A scheduling nightmare if you ask me.

The shows in Sacramento, St. Louis, Kansas City and Tampa on Elevation went on sale between 1-2 weeks before the concerts. These are not the biggest U2 markets. But all of them were between 1-2000 tickets from being a sellout. I think given more time, even another week, the shows would've sold out. Plus, it was post-9/11, which also made people weary. I see no reason why U2 wouldn't return to these markets. The only duds in America were Columbus, Lexington and Indy. I was at 2 of those, and those would be the top choices for me on the next tour. BUT, I do think it would be best if they played these places in the OH/KY/IN area.

Cleveland- Gund Arena
Louisville- Freedom Hall (15,000 arena...draw ppl from Lex and Cincy)
Indianapolis- Conseco Fieldhouse (not in the same week as Cleveland and Louisville.... come back later)

It sucks because Columbus is an hour from me. MAYBE they could hit Columbus on the 2nd leg as the only city in the area, drawing ppl from Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, Western Pennsylvania. Nationwide Arena or the Schottenstein Center would suit them well.

[NoControl]

Originally posted by The_acrobat The shows in Sacramento, St. Louis, Kansas City and Tampa on Elevation went on sale between 1-2 weeks before the concerts. These are not the biggest U2 markets. But all of them were between 1-2000 tickets from being a sellout. I think given more time, even another week, the shows would've sold out.

Incorrect. The most of the shows that didn't sellout had reduced capacities from 360 to 270 end stage configurations, making them look like they were only 1-2,000 tickets left. But in reality, it was more like 5-6,000 seats from sold out. And I heard these shows went on sale 3 weeks before the show or longer. That's plenty of time for a sold out show. Prince can do it in many markets and so should U2 be able to.

Originally posted by The_acrobat Louisville- Freedom Hall (15,000 arena...draw ppl from Lex and Cincy)

Freedom Hall is seats more than 15,000, it's more like 18-20,000 overall.

[Vox02]

Barcelona, Spain – Olympic Stadium (45,000/Sold Out)

U2 sold +60,000 tickets in 1997.

Vox

[NoControl]

Originally posted by Vox02
Barcelona, Spain – Olympic Stadium (45,000/Sold Out)

U2 sold +60,000 tickets in 1997.

Vox

I'm aware of that. The 45,000 is a set up for a another configuration.

[Vox02]

Ok!!

But, Olympic Stadium in Bcn has a maximun capacity of 70,000 and your prediction is 45,000. And Vicente Calderon has a maximun capacity of 60,000 but your prediction is... 60,000 hehe

Olympic Stadium is bigger than Vicente Calderon!

Vox

[NoControl]

Originally posted by Vox02
Ok!!

But, Olympic Stadium in Bcn has a maximun capacity of 70,000 and your prediction is 45,000. And Vicente Calderon has a maximun capacity of 60,000 but your prediction is... 60,000 hehe

Olympic Stadium is bigger than Vicente Calderon!

Vox

No, my prediction for Berlin is 30,000. The half house style capacity is what I think they'll use for a different setup configuration.

As for Madrid, U2 played with an end stage 270 configuration there in 1993 to 60,000.

[Vox02]

Originally posted by NoControl


No, my prediction for Berlin is 30,000. The half house style capacity is what I think they'll use for a different setup configuration.

As for Madrid, U2 played with an end stage 270 configuration there in 1993 to 60,000.

I mean Barcelona (Bcn=Barcelona, sorry!).

With an end stage configuration, the concerts in Olympic Stadium in Bcn holds 55,000 to 70,000 people. And Vicente Calderon 50,000 to 60,000 people.

With 45,000 people in attendance in Barcelona's Olympic Stadium, the stadium apperas half empty!

U2 can sold out two dates in Spain in few hours. Back in 2001, U2 sold 18,000 tickets, and sold out Palau Sant Jordi in a record time of 6 hours with thousands of people without ticket!

Vox

[NoControl]

Originally posted by Vox02
I mean Barcelona (Bcn=Barcelona, sorry!).

That's ok. No problem.

Originally posted by Vox02 With an end stage configuration, the concerts in Olympic Stadium in Bcn holds 55,000 to 70,000 people. And Vicente Calderon 50,000 to 60,000 people.

With 45,000 people in attendance in Barcelona's Olympic Stadium, the stadium apperas half empty!

Yes but there's different capacities to fit the attendance depending on what they'll draw there.

Originally posted by Vox02 U2 can sold out two dates in Spain in few hours. Back in 2001, U2 sold 18,000 tickets, and sold out Palau Sant Jordi in a record time of 6 hours with thousands of people without ticket!

Vox

Well, not necessarily. It depends on what venue they're playing. And I'm surprised that it took 6 hours for U2 to sellout an arena in Spain. For U2, that's not that fast at all.