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Old 11-30-2006, 08:01 AM   #496
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Comparing the R&H Watchtower to the original version as per a bootleg I have they are very different. I reckon a lot of Edge's guitar parts were re-recorded and inserted into R&H version; his playing in the R&H version just sounds different.

Also there's some extra adlibbing by Bono prior during the "all I've got is this red guitar..." part that is edited out on the R&H version.
Thanks. I'll have to track down the boot.
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It seems to me that Watchtower was touched up a fair bit more than the others. Then again, that was an impromptu concert and it was the first performance of Watchtower since 1981 (and only the second time U2 had covered it ever). The other shows were well-planned and the songs had been done live multiple times before with extensive soundchecking. So I can see why Watchtower would have required more work in the studio than any of the others.

What I think is a huge tragedy is that Mothers Of The Disappeared missed out on making RAH. The bootlegged RAH Rough Cut features an absolutely gorgeous performance of the song from Tempe.
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I can hear what you mean about guitar overdubs, but that's about it. I've heard audience boots of most of the other R&H performances and they sound exactly the same as they did in the film - don't know why watchtower should be too different.
For me once I know Edge's guitar parts have been interfered with in the studio I have a very hard time accepting any song as being truly live. Watchtower on R&H falls into this category.

There is one other live song on R&H that I've always wondered about. Bullet The Blue Sky. I've got craploads of JT boots, including all the great quality ones (e.g. Denver) and there's two things unique about the R&H version that make me suspicious about it. One is it seems slow to me. I reckon it might be slowed down a touch, perhaps to emphasise the massive bottom end that the song has (i.e. Adam's rumbling bass). Two is Bono's voice. His voice on the R&H version is just so amazingly deep and I've never heard it that way on any other version.
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Oh, while we're on the topic of RAH's editing, there is one other rather big edit, at least from my point of view: Bono's speech in Silver And Gold was actually quite longer live and is seriously edited down.

I just wish they'd cut out the silly "OK Edge, play the blues!" comment as well.
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It seems to me that Watchtower was touched up a fair bit more than the others. Then again, that was an impromptu concert and it was the first performance of Watchtower since 1981 (and only the second time U2 had covered it ever). The other shows were well-planned and the songs had been done live multiple times before with extensive soundchecking. So I can see why Watchtower would have required more work in the studio than any of the others.

What I think is a huge tragedy is that Mothers Of The Disappeared missed out on making RAH. The bootlegged RAH Rough Cut features an absolutely gorgeous performance of the song from Tempe.
Good point.
Never heard the Mothers... but the OTH outtake is lovely.
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Aaaaand this is the 500th post, so it's time for a new thread!

Please continue here: http://forum.interference.com/t169572.html
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Originally posted by Axver What I think is a huge tragedy is that Mothers Of The Disappeared missed out on making RAH. The bootlegged RAH Rough Cut features an absolutely gorgeous performance of the song from Tempe. [/B]
They should have ditched the idea of the film being part doco since that's where it fails and just made a regular concert video not intended for the cinema. Ditch the scant doco stuff and add a few extra songs. Although having said that I adore the Heartland section of the movie.
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Two is Bono's voice. His voice on the R&H version is just so amazingly deep and I've never heard it that way on any other version.
Point Depot 1-1-90 (or 12-31-89, same thing) sounds deeper to me.
As far as S&G goes, Axver, I love the play the blues comment.
This is only slightly apropos, but I'm thinking of this right now - and then I'm off to bed. When I was in high school I spent years in love with the same girl. Turned out she liked me, too, but it took us ages to get together. She found out I was a big U2 fan, and after the first time I went over to her house, as my father was waiting outside to pick me up (I was a teenager), she was standing in the doorway talking, talking, talking. Finally she said, "Am I buggin you? I don't mean to bug ya." And she gave me a very shy smile. That was when I knew she was mine.
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Point Depot 1-1-90 (or 12-31-89, same thing) sounds deeper to me.
As far as S&G goes, Axver, I love the play the blues comment.
Actually, I don't mind it at all, but it just cops so much flak that it would have been better to have just left it out!

And hee, that was a great story!

And I really should be posting in the other thread. Oh well. Next post!
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Point Depot 1-1-90 (or 12-31-89, same thing) sounds deeper to me.
Yes but that is 2 years later. Bono's Lovetown voice is pretty different to his JT voice. The version of Bullet on R&H seems out of step with every other JT tour version of R&H that I've heard.
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Yes but that is 2 years later. Bono's Lovetown voice is pretty different to his JT voice. The version of Bullet on R&H seems out of step with every other JT tour version of R&H that I've heard.
Yes the Lovetown voice is:

hoarse, a lot of kermit, unstabile, shaky, can't hold the notes all the way out like he did on JT tour, less wide and full voice then JT.

His Lovetown voice In my opinion is overrated.

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