Hartford Civic Center Box Office / Scalper DISGRACE
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Bruce Springsteen had all his "premium seats" at will call. You ahd to pick them up with a picture ID and the credit card you used. After you got them you were immediatly escorted ito the building (at least this is how it happened in AC). I suppose this cut down on scalping!
ntalwar
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twochordcool said:
Maybe they can hire you to do racial profiling at U2 shows, airports, etc.
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Hewson
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Re: Re: Re: Hartford Civic Center Box Office / Scalper DISGRACE
I see scalpers waiting/lurking day of at most every high demand show I attend (not just U2). They either hang in line, or go back and check the box office repeatedly. Some venues just police it better than others. In 2001 for Boston 2 at the Fleet, I waited for the drop on show day. They allowed everyone in line to buy 1 ticket at the drop, you could go up to the window as a twosome an buy a pair if you were with someone. Obviously the HCC has some poor procedures, and the scalpers are taking advantage. Your beef should not be with scalpers as much as it should be with the HCC.
I've seen the scalpers using the homeless at onsales for over 20 years. Bus them down, give them $20 to go through the line and buy 8 tix. Can't blame a homeless person for grabbing $20 for an hour or 2's work.twochordcool said:
I see scalpers waiting/lurking day of at most every high demand show I attend (not just U2). They either hang in line, or go back and check the box office repeatedly. Some venues just police it better than others. In 2001 for Boston 2 at the Fleet, I waited for the drop on show day. They allowed everyone in line to buy 1 ticket at the drop, you could go up to the window as a twosome an buy a pair if you were with someone. Obviously the HCC has some poor procedures, and the scalpers are taking advantage. Your beef should not be with scalpers as much as it should be with the HCC.
mofo23
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They really ought to have a "probable cause" clause - about reserving the right to not sell tickets to certain people, etc.
It REALLY bothers me that there is NO screening whatsoever, and they must know that they are selling tickets to scalpers -
it simply should not be permitted.
I mean, if I were a manager at a box office, I would MOST DEFINITELY "judge a book by it's cover" - and I am sure that I would have made the right decision 100% of the time.
What makes it more difficult is when you have numerous African Americans working at a box office and you try to tell them NOT TO sell U2 tickets to dirty "street-looking" African Americans and "redneck-looking" caucasions because odds are 1,000,000 to 1 that they are NOT buying tickets with good intentions - it STILL won't go over well.
But just like screening Arabs at airports a little more closely than non-Arabs, a little bit of FU@#$NG common sense is in order.
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This could be the saddest post I have ever read here.
They really ought to have a "probable cause" clause - about reserving the right to not sell tickets to certain people, etc.
It REALLY bothers me that there is NO screening whatsoever, and they must know that they are selling tickets to scalpers -
it simply should not be permitted.
I mean, if I were a manager at a box office, I would MOST DEFINITELY "judge a book by it's cover" - and I am sure that I would have made the right decision 100% of the time.
What makes it more difficult is when you have numerous African Americans working at a box office and you try to tell them NOT TO sell U2 tickets to dirty "street-looking" African Americans and "redneck-looking" caucasions because odds are 1,000,000 to 1 that they are NOT buying tickets with good intentions - it STILL won't go over well.
But just like screening Arabs at airports a little more closely than non-Arabs, a little bit of FU@#$NG common sense is in order.
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This could be the saddest post I have ever read here.
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mofo23 said:
You cant refuse to sell tickets to someone because of how they look. It's a little self righteous to say that on here. Have you ever seen a GA line? It's no beauty pageant ( except for the occasional Miroslava or Ruffian!).
You also need to keep in mind that U2 isnt the only band on earth. The ticket both workers work dozens of shows are year. Are they suppose to be able to profile every band they sell tickets for?
While I think it's wrong for people to push or cut in line I have no problem with a homeless person camping out. If someone is in line before me, regardless of their intention for the ticket, then they deserve a ticket before me. I could get there three days in advance if I chose to or I could show up 10 minutes before. It's my personal choice how dedicated I am to getting a ticket.
A lot of people have a sense of entitlement on here. Nobody is really entitled to anything. Tickets went on sale in February(?) for this show and someone waits until the day of for a ticket and is upset if they dont get one? People only care about themselves. Nobody cares about fairness as long as they get what they want.
The original poster is a perfect example. He was irate but once he got his tickets he no longer cared. He was going to make a big stink because he believed the system was wrong but he allowed himself to be bought. Basically, he got paid off. He got what he needed and who cares about anyone else. Did he contact the local authorities? the better business bureau? the attorney general? No! You went and whined on a message board. Way to be proactive.
Im sorry for ranting but Im so tired of people complaining and not doing anything. The original poster here pisses me off. Wishing cancer on someone over a concert ticket? Seriously? You are a really pathetic person. If it were me I would have refused the tickets if I were that upset. My integrity doesnt have a price.
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One point I'd like to make, I've gotten many seats for many different bands, because someone expected to get X seat (in U2's case X = GA's) I scored front row, right next to the stage on Nov 1, because the whole f'ing line (scalpers, fans, etc...) were waiting on GA's, and the security idiots wouldn't ask/tell more than 10 people deep in line, that stellar SEATS were coming up. It was so chaotic at the front with homeless/scalpers that great seats were just sitting there. I've seen fools pass up 4th row seats at some shows, because they wanted the cheapest grass seats.
If you wanna see the band, bring cash. Hang around, and you almost always can get in at face value. Maybe not GA's, but there were tons of great highend seats for face or less.
If you wanna see the band, bring cash. Hang around, and you almost always can get in at face value. Maybe not GA's, but there were tons of great highend seats for face or less.
Chrisedge said:
That's the key with day-of ticket drops. You've got to take the best you can get. At one show, I saw a girl baaaawling because she'd waited all day and didn't get GAs. The ticket people were "so fucking mean" because "all they're releasing are seats and all we want are GAs." She just couldn't fathom why they weren't releasing GAs.Listen, if you don't have tickets for a show and you're trying to get tickets the day of a concert that's been sold out for 6+ months, you take whatever the hell you can get, be happy, and don't bitch.
twochordcool
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editorinchief said:
You're totally missing the point - these people were the scum of society - these are people that associate themselves with people that sell counterfeit tickets at a 200% and 300% markup.
I don't know about you but I've met some people in my life that I REALLY wish we could do without -
and so I stand by my ENTIRE statement with NO retraction.
twochordcool
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Bono's shades said:Oh, I see. Only squeaky-clean, perfectly coiffed and nicely dressed people should have U2 tickets sold to them. And of course you are a mind-reader and would never, ever, make a false judgement on whether or not someone is a scalper based on their appearance.
I bet you a year's salary that my gut feeling would be right 99% of the time.
And if there was any doubt, I WOULD sell them a ticket.
twochordcool
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ntalwar said:Maybe they can hire you to do racial profiling at U2 shows, airports, etc.
To call it "racial profiling" is not fair and not exact, because there were quite a few dirty white bumpkins that were trying to get tickets with bad intentions.
Common sense my friend, common sense.
twochordcool
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retro said:
You're right, but let's be FU@#$NG realistic, you can tell a U2 fan apart from a scalper by appearance 99% of the time.
twochordcool
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Hartford Civic Center Box Office / Scalper DISGRACE
And it is, for the most part - but both are guilty.
Hewson said:
And it is, for the most part - but both are guilty.
twochordcool
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mofo23 said:
And the truest.
Common sense my friend, common sense.
twochordcool
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editorinchief said:
When people are OBVIOUSLY scalpers you should be able to -
Seriously, how often have you seen a clan of 15 African Americans that looked like they are going to a Snoop Dog concert GENUINELY psyched to be going to see U2?
Give *ME* a break!
Don't be so stupid, ignorant and pathetically politically correct.
twochordcool
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editorinchief said:
Scalpers should not be permitted to be in line for tickets, MUCH LESS rudely cutting in line and frightening people.
twochordcool
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editorinchief said:
I'm trying REALLY hard to not be offensive to people that just do not see this whole thing properly.
First of all, you need to re-read my original post, because I made it PERFECTLY CLEAR that I did not know the intentions of the woman that ended up giving my girlfriend and I tickets - she could have felt guilty that there was so much cooperation with scalpers on the part of the box office, or she simply could have felt sorry for my girlfriend and I, who literally waited the ENTIRE day to try to get tickets and came away empty-handed.
Secondly, I WAS VERY HAPPY to ultimately get tickets, but that does not make me selfish - if I were that selfish I would not have even bothered to post anything about this problem here - and I would not even continue to spend my time writing about this -
YES, it's a MAJOR problem - but I am NOT saying that I know exactly what to do about it - hence I am here, telling about my experience about what happened to other fans - and trying to get some ideas from other fans about what could possibly be done about this in the future -
one guy suggested that if it happens again to other people that they should call the local news and try to embarrass the box office into incorporating some sort of policy - I think that is a BRILLIANT idea, but there is nothing that I can do about it now.
So PLEASE go back to reading my original post, and take a reading comprehension class if you must, but don't accuse me about being paid off when you have no earthly idea what you are talking about.
twochordcool
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editorinchief said:
Maybe you'd change your tune if you were one of the people that paid $400 on the street for 2 tickets that had a face value of $200 - and they weren't even real.
There are people that do not give a FLYING F@#$ about you and will rob you in a second -
so, yes, I wish horrific things on these people.
The world would be a far better place if we could rid ourselves of some of the scum out there.
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editorinchief said:
And, so kind of you to say, but this is my GA line look. The difference between a bum and most of us is not that great until about 4:30 PM
mofo23
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twochordcool said:
By twochord:
I'm trying REALLY hard to not be offensive to people that just do not see this whole thing properly.
By me:
You're not being offensive, you're being rediculous. I can easily see the whole thing properly: You were upset at a few scalpers who caused you to get two front row-$162 -per-ticket-seats for free and now you want all non-white and non-clean-cut people barred from U2 shows becuase you're suspicious that they may be scalpers. Am I missing something?
By twochord:
First of all, you need to re-read my original post, because I made it PERFECTLY CLEAR that I did not know the intentions of the woman that ended up giving my girlfriend and I tickets - she could have felt guilty that there was so much cooperation with scalpers on the part of the box office, or she simply could have felt sorry for my girlfriend and I, who literally waited the ENTIRE day to try to get tickets and came away empty-handed.
By me:
I read your first and all of your proceeding posts. Regardless of the ladies intentions, you accepted the tickets. This is the same woman that denied you your due right to GA tickets because you are a true U2 fan and not some black homeless guy working with the scalpers right? Even if she felt sorry for you, she was the one causing the sorrow. So, you knew she was either working with the enemy or against you and still accepted them rather than stand by your convictions and deny the tickets. And by literally waiting the ENTIRE day, that means you were at the HCC at 12:00 am? Were you?
By twochord:
Secondly, I WAS VERY HAPPY to ultimately get tickets, but that does not make me selfish - if I were that selfish I would not have even bothered to post anything about this problem here - and I would not even continue to spend my time writing about this -
By me:
No kidding you were happy to get the tickets for free. Being happy about free tickets doesn't make you selfish, but what does make you selfish is that you saw what you percieved as an injustice happening and rather than report it, or speak up, you took your hush money and went on your merry way. Making a post on a fan board looking for sympathy is hardly penance.
By truechord:
YES, it's a MAJOR problem - but I am NOT saying that I know exactly what to do about it - hence I am here, telling about my experience about what happened to other fans - and trying to get some ideas from other fans about what could possibly be done about this in the future -
By me:
You expressed some of your ideas.
- Give all scalpers (and percieved scalpers) cancer so they die.
- Only allow true U2 fans tickets (i.e. no black people)
- Allow box office managers to use "common sense" on whom they allow to buy tickets. Your definition of "common sense" entails no "clans of 15 African-Americans".
Just brilliant.
By truechord:
one guy suggested that if it happens again to other people that they should call the local news and try to embarrass the box office into incorporating some sort of policy - I think that is a BRILLIANT idea, but there is nothing that I can do about it now.
By me:
Of course there is nothing you can do now, you got your tickets, saw the show, it's over. Why should you care anymore, right? editorinchief's post was absolutely the truth.
I know nothing will change your mind or make you see any point of view but your own, but I needed to respond to some of your posts here. I still think this is the saddest thread ever.
Hope you enjoyed the show.
twochordcool
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Miroslava said:
And, so kind of you to say, but this is my GA line look. The difference between a bum and most of us is not that great until about 4:30 PM
Maybe "TOO" kind of you to say -
If you can't see a huge chasm of a difference between yourself and the scalpers out there then you just aren't that observant - and that is putting it as nicely as I can.
twochordcool
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Mofo23 -
1) Your perceptions are warped and inaccurate.
and
2) You completely lack common sense.
You're the type of ACLU freak that would allow ALL people to come into this country from ANYWHERE, and would REFUSE to look at any one person more closely than another.
Please dude, sharpen up a bit - for your own sake.
1) Your perceptions are warped and inaccurate.
and
2) You completely lack common sense.
You're the type of ACLU freak that would allow ALL people to come into this country from ANYWHERE, and would REFUSE to look at any one person more closely than another.
Please dude, sharpen up a bit - for your own sake.
mofo23
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twochordcool said:
Believe me, I'm looking at you very closely. And I'm saddened.
twochordcool said:
Ahhhhhhhhh....the truth comes out!
I think this thread is getting funnier than the "Bono and Adam Should Kiss More" thread, the "Larry, Adam and Edge Should Be Ashamed" thread, and the "Do You Think Bono Will Perform My Marriage" thread.
At the same time, it's scarier than the ones that "Here" used to write about U2's music bringing salvation to True Believers, and a fiery burning hell to everyone who has free thought.....
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mofo23 said:
You're obviously a moron so I am not going to respond to you anymore -
but I do take offense to this particular statement so I WILL respond to this.
FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I DID speak to SEVERAL security personnel in the civic center about OBVIOUS SCALPERS purchasing tickets and the REVOLVING DOOR COOPERATION that was the box office -
and what they told me was:
1) that there was nothing they could do about it until they attempted to resell them on the premises.
2) that the box office was separate from the civic center.
and
3) that they would sell tickets to anyone with money.
*AND*
I had to be VERY CAREFUL about being low key about it because other U2 fans, that were equally upset about it, suggested that I be VERY CAREFUL because scalping is their "livelihood" and I might get a knife in the stomach if they see me talking to security or the police.
SO PLEASE -
SHUT THE F@#$ UP -
because I did WAY MORE than anyone else to try to point out to the authorities what was going on there.
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mofo23 said:
Well I am outraged and saddened by people that fail to see and recognize the obvious.
Wake up blind man.
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