April 1, Arrowhead Pond of Anaheim

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they also might have been doing a "runner", which is when they try to get the band out of the arena before the house lights come up....

still disappointing, i'm sure. oh well... it sounds like it was a great show!! :)
 
Well if they have the 11 PM curfew, then why not try being on stage at 8:45 instead of 9-9:15?

Shorten the Kings of Leon set. I doubt anyone would shed a tear.
 
Re: U2 can get short-changed

Reverend said:


Maybe someone could comment on the San Diego shows (where I drove from btw - my home - to Anaheim to see this). In this (Anaheim) show the cheering remained fairly strong (though not "fervant" - I guess - compared to some early years concerts I remember) - and one thing that was VERY noticable (to me) was that people didn't continue singing the "How Long..." bit. I was trying "solo" to get people to sing it - thinking it would bring them (U2) back out but (lol) - what's one person going to do? (lol). For whatever reason, they didn't come back out for an actual "encore" and there were many people (including myself, somewhat) who were kind've miffed about it (lol - I know... get a life - lol).


I think the main thing going on with last night's show was simply that U2 were juggling the setlist and adding a couple new songs and as a result there were some miscues and confusion among the band and possibly the production crew -- that's my theory, anyway.

It wasn't a bad show but it was a bit rough and uneven.

Love and Peace Or Else as an opener wasn't helped by the fact that Bono's voice sounded a bit tired and hoarse at the beginning of the song. (His voice improved as the show went on).

City of Blinding Lights -- I liked it as an opener. Last night they dropped off the pre-recorded piano/guitar opening to the song and it just never picked up energy. Several people have said they thought last night's performance of COBL was flat (or that the audience response was flat). I'd agree. I thought the performance of that song was much better in San Diego and at the L.A. Rehearsal.

I personally suspect -- and maybe the I'll be proved wrong tonight or later in the tour -- that the break in the middle of the show was not planned to go off the way it did. It seemed as though there was confusion in the midst of the production. Again, I'll probably eat my words on that one but that's how I perceived it last night.

As for 40 and the "how long's," the audience has faded out "early" after each performance so far, so I wouldn't make anything of it.

As for why they left the lights off for several minutes and didn't come out for an encore, again, I suspect it was more of a production miscue than anything.
 
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If any of the above reasons are the case, I'm completely cool with that. The set was overall very good (it's not so much a lack of songs that's the issue for me, I was just turned off thinking that they were intentionally stiffing the crowd b/c of the reasons mentioned above).

A lot of people in my section thought (basically) the same thing.
It was really hard at the time to think differently. It was probably the weirdest ending to a concert (particularly of this stature) I've been to. There were a few people near us who actually threw some things towards the stage area (which, rest assured, I don't condone).

It did feel kind've "Axel Rose(sp?) - ish", though.

This might sound a bit "lame/corny - lol" - but one of the characteristics of U2 in the past that endeared people (like us) to them was being candid/genuine with their fans about things. Mullen's comments during the grammy's - apologizing about how hard it was or the average fan to get tickets at decent prices... was actually something that kind've "pushed us over the edge" to make the extra financial "effort" to get the tickets.

If the band (or even anyone for that matter), had come back out and said to the crowd... "there's a curfew" or "this was the end of the set - and the lights shouldn't have been down" (etc) - even if that seems "lame" - I think a lot of fans (if not all) would've left with a much better feeling about it. Like someone quoted Bono from one of the San Diego concerts - "we're among friends, right?" Just a brief bite of explanation would've been a good gesture (imo).

Of course... if they're doing a "runner" - I guess the goal is to
not let the crowd know what's going on.

Anyway... I'll stop whining...

-rev








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I felt the Anaheim1 show had its ups and downs, but still, it's U2, so it is good! Of course I'm a die-hard fan. I thought the first hour was great, emotionally and physically draining! There were some tech glitches and Bono's voice was not very strong. He did not hit the old high-notes. I saw Edge singing pieces that normally Bono would do. But I could see there were sound problems early. I think early on Bono was signaling about some problems, then he seemed to get mad and he took out his ear piece all together. Later in the show he stopped singing and was making hand-signals to the crew, I guess. He seemed to be annoyed, that's for sure. But he put his all into the show, I thought he was active, interacting a lot with the crowd. But after the first hour the momentum died and the band had a tough time getting the crowd back into the show. But Vertigo really rocked! I thought it was the most awesome piece of the night. I was happy they changed the set list, but they did seem a bit unorganized at parts. One time after they had just finished playing a song, it was quiet, and Bono said, "give us a minute" I thought that was strange. I did love it though. I'll see them again in 2 weeks, and see what changes they make!
 
Oh, another note...they were not allowing cameras at Anaheim. They handed out notes in the parking lot that no cameras were allowed. I brought my digicam anyway, and the guards let me take it inside. It did get some photos, nothing great, but this is just a warning. One usher told me that U2 changed their policy after somethings were being pirated or something after the San Diego show...so no more cameras. Although during the show, I saw a lot of flashes going off! Oh, and the guards weren't allowing any drinks on the floor.
 
the end was the same as in san diego (the lights out for a long time and people singing the chorus, before the lights went on) but the san diego crowd didn't boo. anaheim never had a "real" encore...there wasn't ever a long enough break for people to realize there was an encore, so i think people were expecting more. but the anaheim crowd was lackluster.
 
Re: Re: U2 can get short-changed

pub crawler said:


I think the main thing going on with last night's show was simply that U2 were juggling the setlist and adding a couple new songs and as a result there were some miscues and confusion among the band and possibly the production crew -- that's my theory, anyway.

It wasn't a bad show but it was a bit rough and uneven.

Love and Peace Or Else as an opener wasn't helped by the fact that Bono's voice sounded a bit tired and hoarse at the beginning of the song. (His voice improved as the show went on).

As for 40 and the "how long's," the audience has faded out "early" after each performance so far, so I wouldn't make anything of it.

As for why they left the lights off for several minutes and didn't come out for an encore, again, I suspect it was more of a production miscue than anything.

Those are all good takes.

I do kind've regret not being able to make one of the San Diego shows (closer to us anyway) but we tried and ended up only being able to get Anaheim tickets.

-rev
 
April 1 was about my 15th U2 show since the UF tour. Got to my seat- the very last row in the farthest section from the stage. We and the couple next to us were wondering why the hell we paid $40 to join the club for the worst seats in the house.

On to the show. Last tour was magical, all 3 shows I saw. This time, I just don't think they really got going. Still experimenting with the setlist,, I guess. Sound was good except the guitar was very loud, and the high end was distorted, leaving a thin, brittle sound for much of the show.
LaPoE, not my favorite on the album, was really rocking live. SBS- pretty good but Edge had to switch guitars mid song. BtBS was OK but again the guitar solo was very thin sounding and the Edge ventured a bit far into Blues territory, not his strong point.

The rest was basically a greatest hits set. I was really hoping to hear Electric Co. and An Cat Dubh. Oh Well.

COBL, my favorite from the new album, hasn't quite hit it's stride live. I think they forgot to run the backing tape with the piano so it sounded empty.

Zoo Station and the Fly were good. Not a big fan of Elevation but I have to say it rocked. But I think the highlight was really Vertigo. It was just obvious they love that song and dig playing it and it came across. On the other hand, ABOY came off flat as a pancake. I don't get that song. Yahweh and 40 were cool, but again the band-audience magic just didn't materialize.

The end was weird. They didn't put the house lights on. I really thought they were going to do more. There were techs running around the stage with flashlights as if preparing for an encore. The whole crowd stayed, cheering, but about 5 minutes later they turned on the houselights. So I don't think the booing was people being rude, I think they just felt let down.

Oh well, I've seen U2 enough to know if one show isn't the greatest, the next one is guaranteed to be great. I'll have to get tickets in November. Hopefully they'll add Original and A Man and a Woman, two of the 4 classics on the album, to the set.

There's still nobody better than U2, not even close.
 
2 Questions:

- what was the song they used for the intro, before LAPOE? I heard it faintly but couldnt get the stream up again, sounds familiar but couldnt place it???

- also, this whole ellipse thing...when I watched the stage setup video on u2exit there is a shot where the camera pans straight up from the floor...and it *seems to me that the ellipse takes up MOST of the floor space...its sides go almost to the edge of the floor and the outer tip is pretty far down the arena....looks like there is more room inside the ellipse than on the outside??

any thoughts?

thanks! :)

(cant wait for May 22!!!!)
 
There was no song before LOPOE. That was the intro. Although there was Bono's voice (I think) saying 'Everyone... everyone... everyone..." over and over. It happeded at the 'break' as well.

A note about what was going on with the show. I mentioned this in other threads, but I think that they were having technical problems. Happened to the Edge in the beginning, then Bono through the rest of the show. Mic was cutting out and something was happening in his ear-piece. I was watching closely through the binocs. and he looked to be getting rather bothered by it. There was a few times when he kept motioning to tech. guys under the stage. He threw the Edge some looks as well. A few times he pulled out his ear-piece during a song with a very distinct look on his face that, in my opinion, seemed annoyed with it.

I believe the 'break' was an attempt at solving some of the problems. Lots of technicians running around it seemed to me. I had a good view of it from stage left & up high.

Just my take on what may have happened. Don't know for sure.
 
gabrielvox said:
2 Questions:

- what was the song they used for the intro, before LAPOE? I heard it faintly but couldnt get the stream up again, sounds familiar but couldnt place it???



thanks! :)

(cant wait for May 22!!!!)


I asked myself the same question

I am pretty sure it was the band "Arcade Fire"

but it may have been Philharmonic Spree.
 
Weird reviews here, so I thought I'd post my own, even though Anaheim has passed and people are now pumping up for LA...

A fantastic show. I've seen Zoo TV, PopMart, and Elevation, and in my honest opinion this show was as good as (if not better than) Zoo TV. About halfway through the show my wife turned to me and said, "They just get better!" It was true. Bono's voice was strong through the whole show, and Edge's playing was on fire -- so much so that he broke a string during "SBS" and needed a new guitar, hence Bono's vamp of "Edge has got it under control."

We arrived about 9:30 and were 123 and 124 in line. As opposed to SD's security policing the line, there wasn't much policing going on -- lots of line-jumpers and what not, but for the most part nothing to get worked up about (security did come through and kick out a guy who tried to cut right to the front of the line). There was also no real explanation for a while about whether the U2.com membership card was going to be honored -- until we eventually found out that it wasn't. Guess that worthless hunk of metal continues to be just that.

About 3:30 the band showed up. Larry was first, he buzzed right past the crowd waiting -- about 50-60 or so. Edge and Adam came next, and then police chased most of us off by saying everyone was in -- but Bono showed up at 4:30 (April Fool's?), popped out briefly and apologized that he had to run in, but it was still cool to see King B in the flesh.

The doors opened about 6:15. I think the GA line actually went faster than the U2.com line -- though it seems more people from the U2.com line got into the ellipse. (My wife and I, our friend Kevin, the five people in front of us, and the five behind us didn't get in either.) We wound up being three people back on Edge's side, however, and it couldn't have been a more perfect spot.

Kings of Leon came right out at 7:30. I will always maintain that the lead singer's voice sounded like a can opener. If they swapped charisma with a head of cabbage, the cabbage would still come out ahead. By 7:45 it felt like they'd been out there forever.

It was a brilliant trade-up of the setlist. The lights all went to black, and spotlights emerged as the ominous bassline to "Love and Peace" rumbled through the house. What a surprise to see the boys come out this way, after everything I'd heard about "City" being the opening. But as they launched into the song, with Bono singing to my section for the whole first half, I was instantly reminded about how U2 seems to sound best when they're angry about something -- and the opening suite of "Love and Peace", "Sunday Bloody Sunday" (even with Edge's broken string mucking things up a bit), and "Bullet the Blue Sky," left no doubt that U2 has an agenda this time...

By contrast, the tender rendition of "Running to Stand Still" provided a nice contrast, but no less pointed message as it melded right into the Declaration of Human Rights ("No torture" seemed to get the biggest response from my section). In this politically-minded context, "Still Haven't Found" seemed to be right at home, and probably could have been the theme for the night, as Bono spent a great deal of time talking about Africa later in the show. "New Year's Day" capped off what you could probably call the political section of the show -- and Bono's voice sounded frankly amazing. No rasp, no strain -- he didn't just hit the notes, he blew the roof off some of them.

It's hard not to think about Terry Schiavo when Bono sings "Miracle Drug." It was great to hear Edge's vocals during this song, even if his mic seemed to cut out during the last bit of his vocal. And the four screens overhead focused on Bono exclusively for the only time during the night during "Sometimes", the focus seemed to only strengthen his voice as he hit The Note, and pulled out an incredibly emotional performance from a song that he has already sang countless times, and must still sing countless times yet.

After these two emotive songs, "Beautiful Day" was something of a catharsis -- a celebration that the audience couldn't get enough of. During "Pride", Bono couldn't seem to decide if he wanted us to sing, cheer, or listen -- which may have led to a slightly weaker response than he was seeking when he cried out that Dr. King's vision was for the whole world. But the crowd made up for it by singing "oh-oh-oh" long after the band had faded out. "Streets", with the African flags behind them on the curtain, and "One" in this new context were quite powerful, particularly if you've been to Africa or have had friends who have been there.

The break was slightly surprising there, since I knew that that last Africa suite was usually reserved for the encore -- so the question was, what on earth could they possibly play next? We didn't have to wait long for the answer, as after Bono said, "Give us a few minutes," the band came back and launched right into "Zoo Station." "ZS" is one of those strange songs -- so rooted in the land of Zoo TV, it seems a little awkward as a standalone song. "The Fly," however, was balls to the wall rock and roll -- Bono hit most of the words this time, even if he had to repeat one of the verses, and for sheer uninhibited performance value, it brought the house down.

The stripped-down"Elevation" was a nice surprise, especially with the revised arrangement. U2 is one of those bands that always manages to come up with an amazing live arrangement, nowhere more evidenced than on "Mysterious Ways." Tiffany may have been a bit over the top, especially with her dance moves, but the look on Bono's face as he escorted this Fly/MacPhisto hybrid around the ellipse was priceless. "Some people dress up to go out, and some people DRESS UP to go out." (Tiffany was interesting -- she was in the U2.com line looking as cold as a china doll, but when she got through with MW, she had the face of an innocent child star-struck by Bono.)

"City of Blinding Lights" for some reason sounded off-key with Edge's guitar, but listening to the show again later, it's spot-on -- my eardrums must have been useless after a while. It's amazing that one of the show's highest-energy songs, "Vertigo," was saved for the end -- Bono must have endless reserves of energy to be able to muster a performance as high-energy this late in the show. To launch from that song into "All Because of You" (which in a perfect world would have been the correct sequence for songs at the beginning of How To Dismantle), was great, though after "Vertigo" it was a little anticlimactic, especially considering how perfectly Bono hit the "fee-eel" notes, and the interlude of "Stories for Boys."

"Yahweh" and "40" brought the show back to a more reverential place. "40" sounded a little tentative; Adam didn't play much lead guitar, perhaps trying to figure out which key the song was in, while it looked like Bono was trying to make sure he was in the right key himself. (He adjusted his ear moniter a few times.)

It's an amazing show that can keep people in their seats for ten minutes after the songs end, singing "How long to sing this song". But people didn't want to leave, even after the lights came on. Yes, there was some boos at the fact that the boys didn't come out again, but at this point they had played for two hours and close to 24 songs -- there was nothing left for them to say, sing, or prove. Best band in the world? Only band in the world.

See you boys in Dublin...
 
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Got a semi-oficial word - or at least an inside scoop - on what happened. As I was sitting in lovely Monday morning traffic listening to Mark and Brian on the radio, a guy called in who's friends with a stage-hand for the Vertigo tour to explain what was going on. Apparently, as I mentioned before, there were numerous technical problems that kept hampering the show - mainly with Bono's mic sutting out (Edge having to back him up on a few occasions). Apparently, when it came time for a break, Bono told the guys 'lets just keep going' and push through the set. That's why there was no encore - just a straight long set. That small break, I imagine, was to attempt some technical repairs.

Just thought I'd pass that along for the curious.
 
BEST- G-damn version of Elevation, I have ever heard, and Bono is speaking in a more eloquent (less nervous) tone than ever...I am listening to the bootleg right now and it's BONA FIDE....
 
gabrielvox said:
2 Questions:

- what was the song they used for the intro, before LAPOE? I heard it faintly but couldnt get the stream up again, sounds familiar but couldnt place it???

- also, this whole ellipse thing...when I watched the stage setup video on u2exit there is a shot where the camera pans straight up from the floor...and it *seems to me that the ellipse takes up MOST of the floor space...its sides go almost to the edge of the floor and the outer tip is pretty far down the arena....looks like there is more room inside the ellipse than on the outside??

any thoughts?

thanks! :)

(cant wait for May 22!!!!)

The song just before they come out is by "Arcade Fire" and is called Wakeup!
 
I just listened to the boot of COBL, and it sounds like it wasn't intentional for the band to leave out the pre-recorded piano/guitar bit that made the song kick so much ass on previous nights. Adam even starts palying louder and harder as if to compensate for the missed cue. IMO
 
Does anyone else notice from the bootleg that it sounds like Edge's slide is being doubled from somewhere behind the stage? There's a point where it sounds like it COULD go into the slide, and you almost hear it very faintly, but then they go back into vamping before Bono says, "Try the slide here." Just curious.
 
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