Interference Plebiscite: Abdicate or Mediate - Page 19 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > ZOOTV > Inside Broadcast
Click Here to Login
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 10-09-2004, 08:30 PM   #271
Blue Crack Addict
 
beli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: In a frock in Western Australia
Posts: 15,464
Local Time: 03:00 AM
Pax, do you know when Elvis will return to address the issues in this thread?

There are a number of issues that Elvis could clarify immediately without waiting for the response to his query of Principle Management.

PS I'm not singling you out, nor expecting you to be Elvis keeper. I just thought I would ask in the off chance you might know.

peace
__________________

__________________
beli is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 08:37 PM   #272
Blue Crack Addict
 
starsgoblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Looking for direction to perfection
Posts: 17,828
Local Time: 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by paxetaurora
Ladies, please!

Can we extend an olive branch here? Starsgoblue and U2Kitten, you are BOTH welcome here, and elsewhere on the forum, to discuss whatever you like--and particularly your concerns relevant to this matter.

Remember, we all really want the same thing: a peaceful, truthful resolution to this current situation.

I wasn't even nessacarily refering directly to this "situation"....some people are so vehement about this I wonder why they want to continue posting here. I respect everyone's right to speak thier mind but I have NEVER made it personal. Call me oversensitive but I'm a bit upset about being chased out the moment I got here. And as far as being called an idiot...may not seem like a big deal to some. I don't know why I'm telling you this but the last time anyone ever called me that was five years ago when someone close to me was punching me in the face---you don't know anyone on here outside of what they make public here, doing things like calling someone 'idiot' might not seem a big deal but you never know.... I never expected that from posters here...and yes, I've posted in many places other than PLEBA.
__________________

__________________
starsgoblue is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 09:01 PM   #273
Creator of the Blue Crack
 
Elvis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 4,008
Local Time: 11:00 AM
You know, there sure is a lot of name calling and slanderous remarks being made... especially about me. The really sad part is that some of you ASSUME that I am just to blame for everything because it's my site... however, while I may own this place, I am not the only person that runs nor contributes to it... nor am I the one that arranged the interview, or for that matter ANY OF OUR INTERVIEWS WITH ANYONE ELSE. I'm not responsible for setting up interviews, writing content stories, or really even the majority of running of the forum. I'm not inferring that you shouldnt blame me, or that you should blame others instead... but the fact that many of you are blaming blindly is really a let down.

To just throw stones at me is seriously screwed up. I really wonder if some of you would stoop to such lows while talking to my face, or others that have been insulted in this same thread. I'm so borderline of closing this thread, but I am keeping it open for those that wish to have respectful conversation about the topic at hand. This conspiracy crap has got to come to an end folks... there is no conspiracy. I'm currently out of the country, visiting my gf and her family for a holiday, hence why I do not have the time to sit here and reply to each and every post. Family/love/friendship comes first.. yes.. above and beyond U2... and I hope each of you can respect that.

Good night,

Joel
__________________
I created this place. I hyped a band.
Now I own an ad agency. We hype brands.
All roads for me lead back to U2. Ain't it grand.
FB me. IG me. Tweet me.
Elvis is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 09:05 PM   #274
Blue Crack Addict
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 17,927
Local Time: 02:00 PM
Thanks again Pax

The one thing I disagree with is that if this is fake (and it is) that this site is sunk, over, and everyone will leave. It doesn't mean I don't like the site or don't want to post here anymore. I do believe this site can go on as a community post faux Edge. We've all been through a lot together and this isn't going to ruin it all. Disappointed, yes. Wondering WHY, because the site didn't need any more hype as Rose said, definitely. But not the end of the site, no way. But I do think a lot of people are disillusioned and upset with good reason, and they deserve an explaination and an apology I hope the person posting wasn't laughing at us when we posted our hearts out in good faith in the beginning No, it can't be the end, but some things and some attitudes may need to change for the better.

The biggest mistake was overdoing it. If it had stopped after the Vertigo stuff, or even after the first couple "Edge" threads and then faded away, it could have been pulled off without a hitch. But dragging the game on, trying to make him our buddy, online a lot, in the off topic forums, saying blue crack and using smilies, trashing J, having a photobucket account, how naive and easily led did someone think we are? In a way it's kind of insulting to our intelligence. A few part time posters may not have paid attention, but most of us are on here far too much not to notice and question things. That was where it all went wrong, in case the person who did this is wondering

Edit: I didn't see Elvis's post before I posted this. But I do realize others are involved, and my main suspect is a staff member. I hope you can see how, considering all that's happened, we feel taken. I don't think it's a conspiracy theory to see this isn't right.
__________________
U2Kitten is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 09:16 PM   #275
Blue Crack Addict
 
beli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: In a frock in Western Australia
Posts: 15,464
Local Time: 03:00 AM
Elvis, as the site administrator, aka manager, of this site the buck stops with you. You are ultimately responsible for the content of this site.

To date, questions have not been answered and this lack of response is causing the tension to escalate, in my opinion.

Whilst I respect that you are entitled to a private life this situation has continued for a number of days and perhaps should now be considered a matter of urgency. The credibility of this site is being damaged the longer this episode is allowed to continue.

As you have already taken some time out from your holiday to write a post in this thread perhaps you can continue on and address the issues.

And then we can all lay this matter to rest.

peace
__________________
beli is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 09:17 PM   #276
Rock n' Roll Doggie
ALL ACCESS
 
Blue Room's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: MICHIGAN, GO BLUE!
Posts: 7,612
Local Time: 02:00 PM
U2Kitten, I meant the site was sunk in that no one will believe any information that comes from it. Seriously, will you? I'm not implying that if I leave it will make any difference, but I think you will see a good number leave if this is all a hoax.

I'm still not sure about the whole thing. I'm probebly 50/50 at the moment on it and this thread had put me there. I was pretty sure it was Edge previously. Not so sure now.

I'm not posing any conspiracy theories myself. I know some people that can find out and I can myself eventually. So until then its a mystery to me. The other stuff I mentioned DID happen. So thats no conspiracy theory. I'm not sure Elvis's post was even directed at me in anyway because I'm not in the this is a hoax for sure camp at this point. Just pointing out what I know to be true.

The sad part is that its a time to be excited about what is going on with U2 and not wasting energy on this type of topic. But the events and information presented, even if some of it or even all of it is pseudo, has stirred this discussion and its not going to die until some independent people from this site get confirmation of Edge's validity here.
__________________
Blue Room is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 09:18 PM   #277
Creator of the Blue Crack
 
Elvis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 4,008
Local Time: 11:00 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by U2Kitten
Edit: I didn't see Elvis's post before I posted this. But I do realize others are involved, and my main suspect is a staff member.
Could you please PM or email me privately about your suspicion and what evidence you have - not assumptions. There is NO ONE on this forum EVER that has used IPs matching those in question. I've gotta go to bed now. Night!

Joel
__________________
I created this place. I hyped a band.
Now I own an ad agency. We hype brands.
All roads for me lead back to U2. Ain't it grand.
FB me. IG me. Tweet me.
Elvis is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 09:22 PM   #278
Creator of the Blue Crack
 
Elvis's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 4,008
Local Time: 11:00 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by beli

Whilst I respect that you are entitled to a private life this situation has continued for a number of days and perhaps should now be considered a matter of urgency. The credibility of this site is being damaged the longer this episode is allowed to continue.

As you have already taken some time out from your holiday to write a post in this thread perhaps you can continue on and address the issues.

Beli,

I guess you failed to read my earlier post where I said we would post a statement when we could. I am not going to post anything in partial just to satisfy assumptions and speculation.

As far as telling me that I should spend the rest of my time on holiday sitting here and replying to assumptions is insane. No matter how much truth I post here, people like yourself are going to continue to assume, claim someone is lying, or conspiring, or make accusations... it's really endless with some of you folks.

If you consider this a matter of URGENCY, I strongly suggest that your priorities are not in order, however that is a matter of opinion.

Good Night, again,

Joel
__________________
I created this place. I hyped a band.
Now I own an ad agency. We hype brands.
All roads for me lead back to U2. Ain't it grand.
FB me. IG me. Tweet me.
Elvis is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 09:29 PM   #279
Jesus Online
 
Angela Harlem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: a glass castle
Posts: 30,163
Local Time: 06:00 AM
Elvis I'm not entirely surprised by your response above this one. Likewise, it has to be said it is a shame you didn't listen to the people you entrusted to look after the site for you. Instead you strip the privileges and allegedly ban those you feel might be a threat. Your staff, as I have said to you numerous times lately, are great people. It is all well and good to become the martyr, as you might very well be. I have been very clear in not painting you as the culprit, but you have been to hasty in not listening.
You want a team that obeys, that causes no dissent. Fair enough. You say you have access to information which you cannot part with. Fair enough. But there comes a point when teamwork really matters. Writing concerns off has not worked. Infact it has failed spectacularly. You might feel hard done by, and by all means might be entitled to, but the lack of information and poker-esque dealings around here of holding one's cards close to one's chest has caused this site a great deal of damage.

Who's fault it is, is debateable. It was entirely avoidable though. Finding a FallGuy is not going to sort this out. Honesty will. We all make mistakes.
__________________
<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/angelaharlem/thPaul_Roos28.jpg target=_blank>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...aul_Roos28.jpg</a>
Angela Harlem is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 09:29 PM   #280
Blue Crack Addict
 
beli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: In a frock in Western Australia
Posts: 15,464
Local Time: 03:00 AM
Elvis, I actually meant I believe you should consider it a matter of urgency to address the issues to maintain the reputation of this site.

If this is not also your opinion, then so be it.

peace
__________________
beli is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 09:30 PM   #281
Jesus Online
 
Angela Harlem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: a glass castle
Posts: 30,163
Local Time: 06:00 AM
*the first reply on this page, not the 2 above.
__________________
<a href=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/angelaharlem/thPaul_Roos28.jpg target=_blank>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...aul_Roos28.jpg</a>
Angela Harlem is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 09:35 PM   #282
Refugee
 
moon_is_playing_tricks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Belmont Shore, CA (I prefer flying a kite at the beach, really.)
Posts: 2,204
Local Time: 12:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ramblin rose


I echo your thoughts completely. I have no idea what was to be gained. This site didn't need any fake hype, there was enough real hype to maintain interest.

If this is a hoax, I truly worry about the mental stability of those responsible.
I ask all of you this: would you believe someone who has bragged to several people how he hacked into Bono's personal e-mail, then claimed the band wanted him to run their site?

No?

I wouldn't either. That's why, when the posts first started coming in purporting to be Edge, I knew it wasn't true. I was also here when the band was supposedly posting to the site and it was found to be a hoax. It was all swept under the rug.

Here's my point: many people pay for this site, and in so doing, expect to receive proper service. This proper service includes not being lied to. Now we're being told the problem is being "addressed." Well, shit. That just made it all better.

I, for one, never believed it in the first place. I have no reason to believe it. I think that this was supposed to be another case of, "whoops, sorry... I didn't know it wasn't Edge, either." and it gets swept under the rug. Oh, but how many people have visited this site and possibly bought memberships and donated money? Interesting.

Moonie
__________________
moon_is_playing_tricks is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 10:02 PM   #283
Blue Crack Addict
 
beli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: In a frock in Western Australia
Posts: 15,464
Local Time: 03:00 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Elvis


Could you please PM or email me privately about your suspicion and what evidence you have - not assumptions. There is NO ONE on this forum EVER that has used IPs matching those in question. I've gotta go to bed now. Night!

Joel
I know this question was not addressed to me but before I give up in sheer bloody frustration let me state that Elvis and I had a pm conversation on the 4th October (Perth date) ie 6 days ago. I raised the issue of my email correspondence with The Edge person and was met with rebuttals.

The issue of the authenticity of The Edge poster is not confined to whether or not that person actually was/is The Edge from U2. That is a minor issue in the scheme of things.

For me, the dominant issue is how the policies of this site can permit management to afford a person official legitimate status without the necessary background checks, as appears to be the case.

I’m aware I’m hypothesising with my presumption that background checks weren’t completed but as this question is yet to be addressed I will make my post now and it can stand or fall when the facts are revealed.

And yes the Dafur crisis and various federal elections are more important than this issue but that does not mean this issue is of no importance.

I'm out.



peace
__________________
beli is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 10:21 PM   #284
Blue Crack Addict
 
Liesje's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: In the dog house
Posts: 19,557
Local Time: 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Angela Harlem
Who's fault it is, is debateable. It was entirely avoidable though. Finding a FallGuy is not going to sort this out. Honesty will. We all make mistakes.



Quote:
however, while I may own this place, I am not the only person that runs nor contributes to it... nor am I the one that arranged the interview, or for that matter ANY OF OUR INTERVIEWS WITH ANYONE ELSE. I'm not responsible for setting up interviews, writing content stories, or really even the majority of running of the forum.
ooooooookay......so if you don't want responsibility for this site, why not pass it on to someone else who cares? I mean, after all this is hardly about "The Edge" posts anymore. It's your credibility (and ours) at stake here.
__________________
Liesje is offline  
Old 10-09-2004, 10:46 PM   #285
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
biff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: I may have lost my way
Posts: 4,014
Local Time: 02:00 PM
QUOTE: "However, while I may own this place, I am not the only person that runs nor contributes to it... nor am I the one that arranged the interview, or for that matter ANY OF OUR INTERVIEWS WITH ANYONE ELSE. I'm not responsible for setting up interviews, writing content stories, or really even the majority of running of the forum. "

So, who was then? Surely you were not just following orders?
(I guess we've never hear that before.)
__________________

__________________
biff is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com