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Old 09-28-2004, 01:28 PM   #1
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Hi all, I'm relatively new here although I've been watching you for a while. What are your thoughts about this web site being commercial? About being commercial I mean that you have to pay to be able to edit your signature, you have to pay to be able to send a private message, you have to pay to search messages.. you have to pay to.. you have to pay to.. You get the message.

I must say that I don't like this policy. Paying should be optional - not a must under any circuimstances. If you - the webmaster don't have the resources to run this site - then shut it down. The strong will always survive.

I must say that I feel like a second class citizen here on this website being unable to actually do some basic things I'm used to do on other web sites. V.I.Ps (the premium members) have the power. Whatever I need to pay to become a premium member I don't really care. This kind of attitude bugs me and makes me rebel against it and therefore I will certainly not pay anything.

You need a new server? Fine! I could have donated! I really could have done it if it wasn't for this strict policy.

I don't really like this strict policy, but I love all of you great fans of U2 that I get to meet on this website. Now, don't get me wrong, this is entirely my opinion about this matter and feel free to disagree. What do you think?
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Old 09-28-2004, 01:33 PM   #2
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It used to be free, but it got too big, used too much bandwidth, and there were so many people it wasn't fair for one guy to have to foot the bill. He also tried asking for donations before he started the Premium membership thing, it didn't get enough support. Things got so bad he was considering shutting the site down. It would be nice if we didn't have to pay but that's not how it works. I'm not one for money, but really $12 isn't much for the entertainment, friendship and information of this site. Besides that, I blow that on stinking Happy Meals for my kids and get nothing but cheap toys to show for it. You are still free to read and post without paying, I know some sites that charge you just to post!
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I have to say that paying IS optional. Not paying will not make you a second class citizen, at least not in my book. The basic things on this forum are still free. With that I mean browsing the forums and post (which is the main intention of a forum). All the other things are nice (eye) candy, but not necessary.

Elvis can explain it a lot better than I can, but keeping Interference up does cost a lot of money. It's not just the new server (that was a special situation), but also the bandwith. With thousands of people visiting this site daily, reading threads, posting, etc. this is a huge assault on bandwith. Elvis can barely keep up with the costs. You suggest then shutting down the site, but that is something the members here don't want. So some pay for a premium membership to keep the community alive. It may started like a U2 site for most of us, but it now is a community to many.

BTW, a big welcome nevertheless. I hope you'll find the forum worthwile to stay around.

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Well, there's too many people here now for one or even a few people alone to afford the servers, bandwidth, upkeep, etc. No one's forcing you to pay. Personally, I think everyone should have to pay to post, then there wouldn't need to be pressure to help pay for a new server and stuff like that. The stuff you get for paying isn't that necessary anyway. I don't use the journal, rarely use PM (usually someone PMs me first), and can't remember the last time I used the Search. If it really bugs you, you can ask Elvis to transfer my Premium membership to your account. Also, no one's making money off this site (so it's not commercial) and the minute I find out someone is, I'll take my opinions elsewhere.
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Liv, one small clarification, the journals are free for everyone. Not that it means you now have to use it. Just so you know.



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If it really bugs you, you can ask Elvis to transfer my Premium membership to your account.
Oh thank you very much for the offer, but I couldn't accept it 'cause it would be wrong.

Well, like I said, I didn't write my message to raise hell, I just wanted discussion about this and I wrote how I honestly saw it. I didn't come to think of the bandwidth cost, that must cost something, of course. Interference - for the love or the money? I'm glad to see the money isn't the reason to run this site!! Thanks for your replies!
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You are free to read and post--that is, join the community--without paying. We decided a long time ago that the hosting and other costs had gotten far too high to not have people pitching in.

Incidentally, you may not realize that Interference is not just the forum--we offer a LOT of original content (articles, essays, and analyses about U2), a lyrics site, a new "Ask the Edge!" feature (in which *The Edge*, yes, THAT The Edge, answers fans' questions about U2)...and much more.

So if you don't want to pay or donate, no one will make you. But at the same time, if I may say so, not paying doesn't make much of a statement, either.
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I just realized I haven't changed my sig in almost 4 years, I never use the search features, but still, I don't mind paying 2 dollars a month. Hell. It's automatically taken out of my checking account for me too. It's just 2 dollars a month, I guess that's why I don't really care.
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Hey, David, if you pay by year it's only $12.
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Well, like I said, I didn't write my message to raise hell, I just wanted discussion about this and I wrote how I honestly saw it. I didn't come to think of the bandwidth cost, that must cost something, of course. Interference - for the love or the money? I'm glad to see the money isn't the reason to run this site!! Thanks for your replies!

No this site does not make money, right now Elvis is about $800 in the hole for the new server. Donations have been made but not enough to cover it. If we hadn't had the new server the day the new song broke the site would have crashed. This site is self supported by its members, and it's not even enough. There is no profit. Please do stick around and join us, even if you only read and post!
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Is $800 still needed? Like the exact amount left to cover the cost?

As for pay websites... live with it. That is the compromise that this site made in order to avoid crappy popups. and extreme slowness...
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I try to run this site like a business... im certain aspect, but only because it costs so much damn money to run. To date.. there isnt any profit involved with interference, and to be honest.. since its inception, I'm actually in the red about $35,000 of my own money because of Interference. The memberships, ads, etc keep it running, and keep (almost) me from having to spend anymore of my own $.
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Is $800 still needed? Like the exact amount left to cover the cost?

As for pay websites... live with it. That is the compromise that this site made in order to avoid crappy popups. and extreme slowness...
Less than 200 now...

But like ive said elsewhere... we may need a 2nd server within the next few months.. time will tell.
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You are free to read and post--that is, join the community--without paying. We decided a long time ago that the hosting and other costs had gotten far too high to not have people pitching in.

Incidentally, you may not realize that Interference is not just the forum--we offer a LOT of original content (articles, essays, and analyses about U2), a lyrics site, a new "Ask the Edge!" feature (in which *The Edge*, yes, THAT The Edge, answers fans' questions about U2)...and much more.

So if you don't want to pay or donate, no one will make you. But at the same time, if I may say so, not paying doesn't make much of a statement, either.

I really don't understand what you mean by saying that ...

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So if you don't want to pay or donate, no one will make you. But at the same time, if I may say so, not paying doesn't make much of a statement, either. [/B]
so if we are not paying....then what? We don't appreciate the site? We shouldn't be using the bandwidth? Personally I wouldn't pay for a membership because it seems very clicky here, and threads are removed or locked by the mods for reasons which often time seem to border on censorship in my book.

That said it is a wonderful community where people seem geniunely interested in each others welfare. And there is a wonderful exchange of discussion and ideas.
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come on... being able to see the wit and wisdom of the office of u2 security is worth at least .50 cents a month
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