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Old 10-15-2004, 01:52 PM   #76
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Elvis;

Honest question:

Have you seen this?

Such a shame
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Old 10-15-2004, 01:55 PM   #77
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I have a question about something that was posted in the @U2 thread.

Why did a staff member tell an Interference member that they had indeed spoken to the Edge by cell phone but now claim this:



Is the Interference member remembering things incorrectly or do we have a staff member who exaggerated certain things and is now lying to cover her ass?
I'm a bit confused by your post...

one of our staff members has has contact with someone who works with U2, on their cell phone.
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the problem here is that the people who doubted were treated like shit.

i had two different conversations with two different mods. those two conversations were like night and day. you could never convince me that the higher ups here knew nothing. i also overheard a private conversation at the convention that convinced me that at least one of your staff is quite power hungry, and might be the type to bend the truth just a bit.

why weren't we told you had an IP out of chicago? you KNEW.
I'd love to know what you overheard, and the details. Please PM me or email me.

As far as IP addresses... please see my earlier post about this.
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You push for an apology. I make an apology, quite openly, and then you're rude like this?
Re-read your own post. Essentially you're saying, "Because I'm being forced to by lots of angry people, I am sorry for the following things ..." Nice, but ultimately meaningless. It's like I tell my four year old, you can say you're sorry all day long after I've asked you to, but it sure means more when I don't have to ask.

And please don't accuse me of being rude. Your actions over the past week (and beyond) have insulted too many people for that to be believable coming from you.
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Elvis;

Honest question:

Have you seen this?

Such a shame

I just did, and yes... it is a shame. Because the content team errored in how this was handled however does not mean people should leave the community. Yes, thats my opinion... but I doubt many people stopped watching the CBS network because they had false documents relating to George Bush?

There is a large and tight community here, and I understand that's even more reason for people to be upset. I'm upset about all of this as well. Time and openness will really be the only think that mends these wounds.
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Is the Interference member remembering things incorrectly or do we have a staff member who exaggerated certain things and is now lying to cover her ass?
Nope I have apologized to the person in who I had this conversation with on the phone, I have never claimed to have cell phone communication with the Edge, I might have come across wrong to them so I owed an apology to them for that.
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I'm a bit confused by your post...

one of our staff members has has contact with someone who works with U2, on their cell phone.
It appears that one your staff members (Katey I assume) told an Interference member that she had indeed spoken by cell phone to The Edge. When this allegation was posted in public, your staff member changed her story and claimed to actually have a PR rep's cell phone number.

From the the @u2 forum:

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It takes time to craft good spin and even better to just wait it out until people lose interest and have something else to talk about...which will happen in about 5 weeks time.

The longer he stays quiet, the more he looks to be directly involved, not just fooled. Speaking of which, does anyone actually believe Elvis could be fooled by an online prankster? He'd know better to check and verify more directly. In fact, if I were him, I'd only be satisfied with a phone call. And guess what, I was told by one of the ones under fire here that she DID speak to Edge on the phone, had his cell number even...and SHE told me that on the phone lol.

Hmmmm.
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but to clarify, this must have been again bad communication on my part I dont have Edge's cell phone I do have the cell phone contact for their publicity person which is what I meant I guess I said it wrong I owe you an apology and wanted to do it in public for you, my deep apologies on my end there..sorry
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I'm willing, upon reflection, to accept the apology of Elvis.

But credibility does not return so easily. I really think, Elvis, that you should consider being more transparent about how you were misled, and why you were so slow to act. I'm not sure "privacy" concerns wash any longer - since this was an obvious (to everyone but yourself, it seems) hoax, there's no one's confidence to betray.
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Re-read your own post. Essentially you're saying, "Because I'm being forced to by lots of angry people, I am sorry for the following things ..." Nice, but ultimately meaningless. It's like I tell my four year old, you can say you're sorry all day long after I've asked you to, but it sure means more when I don't have to ask.

And please don't accuse me of being rude. Your actions over the past week (and beyond) have insulted too many people for that to be believable coming from you.

I didnt feel forced. I did so because I wanted to - Because concerns and feelings were expressed.
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I didnt feel forced. I did so because I wanted to - Because concerns and feelings were expressed.
That's interesting. You were closing thread as recently as yesterday seemingly for that very same reason.
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I'm willing, upon reflection, to accept the apology of Elvis.

But credibility does not return so easily. I really think, Elvis, that you should consider being more transparent about how you were misled, and why you were so slow to act. I'm not sure "privacy" concerns wash any longer - since this was an obvious (to everyone but yourself, it seems) hoax, there's no one's confidence to betray.

In the last month, I've been away from home (another state or country) for half of that time (two weeks).... that would have a major part in my 'slowness' of dealing with the situation.
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That's interesting. You were closing thread as recently as yesterday seemingly for that very same reason.

ThatGuy, in knowing that this message and thread would be posted today, I opted to address things here, and today.
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In the last month, I've been away from home (another state or country) for half of that time (two weeks).... that would have a major part in my 'slowness' of dealing with the situation.
I have heard that there are ways to access the internet when one is not at home. Perhaps I have been mislead.
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It appears that one your staff members (Katey I assume) told an Interference member that she had indeed spoken by cell phone to The Edge. When this allegation was posted in public, your staff member changed her story and claimed to actually have a PR rep's cell phone number.

From the the @u2 forum:



This was the staff member's response:

Sure, Katey has just said
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Nope I have apologized to the person in who I had this conversation with on the phone, I have never claimed to have cell phone communication with the Edge, I might have come across wrong to them so I owed an apology to them for that..
and after that Elvis is saying
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I'm a bit confused by your post...

one of our staff members has has contact with someone who works with U2, on their cell phone.

Lies, lies and more lies.
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... but I doubt many people stopped watching the CBS network because they had false documents relating to George Bush?
CBS quickly admitted their error when people began to question things and issued an immediate retraction and apology (the whole event lasted less than a week). This would be an entirely different deal if (assuming that you indeed have been duped all along) you had immediately posted a message that while you still believed that this was The Edge posting - valid doubts had been raised by a number of people and you were working to either dispel those doubts or confirm them.

Instead, you and members of your team kept insisting all was well and when people continued to raise questions, they were either trivialized our outright ignored. (I've yet to have a single question I've raised answered anywhere, except in this thread - after I quoted myself to ask it twice.) Thread after thread requesting information were locked without comment, while the poor mods were left twisting in the wind... while over a week went by with no comment or update from you. The fact that you are still stating in this thread that this might still be The Edge is only harming your effort to put this to rest.

You are a victim of your own success. This is now a very large forum and a lot of people are here - and not all of them are going to blindly believe everything you say. This is also a paid site and people expect your staff (albeit volunteer) to behave professionally. People will have long memories on this event.

I'm sure Interference will continue to thrive because it's the community after all that keeps these folks together. I know how hard it is to leave a community like this one. I just hope that you learn something from this.
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