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Old 10-15-2004, 01:29 PM   #61
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I am sorry that you found my statement offensive. Everyone has a right to question, to speak their minds, etc., my only problem is with people who weren't involved in the initial and subsequent contacts between this person and our staff saying we should have done this or that. We did what we thought was best at the time. In hindsight, we now see that was not enough.
The members are just involved in this as the staff ... after all it was the members of this forum who had the wool pulled over their eyes. The members of this forum are just as involved as the staff--we're the ones who make this the community that it is. If you didn't have us, what would you have?
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Thanks, Katey. FWIW, I appreciate that statement, even if I think you're too generous to the senior staff - if they share your sentiment they will come and express it themselves.

And, there are a lot of reasonable questions folks have offered here that haven't been addressed.
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are you sure you arent the edge (again)?

I'm positive. The person in question posted here under four total names, and has an IP address that is possibly in the Chicago area, but routed through New York.

I'm also going to take a few suggestions, and say that on behalf of the content staff for Interference, we are sorry for:

a) although checking, not checking as much as possible.
b) letting this go on so long.
c) letting ourselves be misled, and in turn letting each of you be misled.

Many of our interviews are conducted over the net, as are many interviews in the press today, and up to this point we've never had a problem - and they've all been genuine. We, at this point, will be verifying not only identity, but responses, in future interviews in a more traditional method, ie. the phone, postal mail, etc., in order to make sure something of this nature never happens again. We should have done that with this.

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At the end of the day it doesn't really matter if Elvis was fooled or not and the staff were all misled like the posters here were. (I highly doubt that but still) He let people here especially those who believed this edge stuff down.

This is just an internet forum. There are always other places where the posters here can go. The thing that makes this site is the nice folk. It would still be good at a less fancy forum if the same people were still there.

There is a lot more important things going on in peoples lives at the moment than this. I'll leave you to it Elvis. I feel sorry for anyone who actually sticks by you and believe you were jsut as fooled as everyone else.
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Too little, too late, dude.
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And, there are a lot of reasonable questions folks have offered here that haven't been addressed.

Many of our own questions to 'official' sources haven't been addressed... in some cases, blatantly ignored.
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my only problem is with people who weren't involved in the initial and subsequent contacts between this person and our staff saying we should have done this or that.
Well, you know what? Obviously, those people are right. So while I hate to get personal, if you have a problem with it, it's just that - your problem.
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Many of our own questions to 'official' sources haven't been addressed... in some cases, blatantly ignored.
Shouldn't this tell you something?
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Many of our interviews are conducted over the net, as are many interviews in the press today, and up to this point we've never had a problem - and they've all been genuine. We, at this point, will be verifying not only identity, but responses, in future interviews in a more traditional method, ie. the phone, postal mail, etc., in order to make sure something of this nature never happens again. We should have done that with this.

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As someone who works with reporters to coordinate interviews for clients, I would have to say that conducting interviews via email is more the exception than the rule. Typically print and internet reporters like to conduct their interviews via phone (if not in person) in order to verify the information.

In the last seven years that I have been doing PR, I have maybe coordinated two or three interviews via email. It's just not the way things usually work ... even with celebrities. It certainly would have raised a red flag in my book.
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I'll leave you to it Elvis. I feel sorry for anyone who actually sticks by you and believe you were jsut as fooled as everyone else.

Unfortunately, and truthfully, I was indeed swept away with the tide with everyone else. I did start to doubt certain things at a point and got very suspicious, but was not about to deal with that in public. Aside from IP addresses, cookies, and other information gathered... I have now created a method in which to more properly identify where someone TRULY is located at the time of posting. IPs can be forged, routed, etc... and are not completely trustworthy when it comes to location. For instance.. most AOL IPs say a person is in Virginia, even if they are really in California. I personally use my home IP (by method of VPN) even when I am travelling out of the country.

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I have a question about something that was posted in the @U2 thread.

Why did a staff member tell an Interference member that they had indeed spoken to the Edge by cell phone but now claim this:

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but to clarify, this must have been again bad communication on my part I dont have Edge's cell phone I do have the cell phone contact for their publicity person which is what I meant I guess I said it wrong I owe you an apology and wanted to do it in public for you, my deep apologies on my end there..sorry
Is the Interference member remembering things incorrectly or do we have a staff member who exaggerated certain things and is now lying to cover her ass?
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Many of our interviews are conducted over the net, as are many interviews in the press today, and up to this point we've never had a problem - and they've all been genuine.
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So you are saying that the exclusive interview with U2 was done over the net. Okay. So, I assume they contacted you because if you contacted them this could not have happened. Don't you think you should question an internet interview that is initiated by U2 instead of your staff members or sources?
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Many of our own questions to 'official' sources haven't been addressed... in some cases, blatantly ignored.
With all due respect, I don't see the relevance. It's quite clear to most everyone, whether you'll admit it or not, that nobody "official" had anything to do with this. I'd ignore you, too.
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the problem here is that the people who doubted were treated like shit.

i had two different conversations with two different mods. those two conversations were like night and day. you could never convince me that the higher ups here knew nothing. i also overheard a private conversation at the convention that convinced me that at least one of your staff is quite power hungry, and might be the type to bend the truth just a bit.

why weren't we told you had an IP out of chicago? you KNEW.
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Too little, too late, dude.

You push for an apology. I make an apology, quite openly, and then you're rude like this?

We're not hiding the fact that whatever the scenario with this, we didnt follow through as much as we should have, and this should have never gone to 'print'.

The time we waited to post a statement was because we were in process of trying to figure out exactly what happened, as well as get to the bottom of things. I had posted earlier in a now closed thread that when we had more to say on the issue, we would... and we have.
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