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Old 10-21-2004, 08:46 AM   #646
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Why does it matter how this could happen? What's it to you?
I know this question wasn't directed at me, but allow me to answer anyway.

This whole situation stinks. Given the evidence presented, to believe that Elvis and his content staff were duped by the faux Edge means that you would have to think that they are, at best, stupid. There was plenty of evidence at the time that showed that this poster was not the real Edge, but it was either stupidly ignored or intentionally ignored. A recounting of the chain of events (with some specifics) would go a long way in showing which was the case, which may be why the "document" that Elvis claimed to be working on days ago has not yet appeared. I think we deserve to know if we've been lied to or not.
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The user 'intruder' has absolutely NOTHING to do with this. Seriously, you have an overactive imagination and/or are just trying to grab at very short straws. Where in hell would you even make such an association? It's not only completely baseless, but I really wonder how you even came to such a conclusion/idea.
Well what can you tell us about this member that she's referring to? If you're going to dimiss her claim competely out of hand then you should at least explain why it's impossible.
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Old 10-21-2004, 08:49 AM   #648
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I think Elvis's ego is no secret, so it begs the question, how did such a cocky and arrogrant bastard (and you know I say this with all the love my ole heart posesses Elvis) get so fooled?
I guess you forgot the forum rules about personal attacks. You don't even know me other than on the 'net, and barely at that.
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Old 10-21-2004, 08:50 AM   #649
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I guess you forgot the forum rules about personal attacks. You don't even know me other than on the 'net, and barely at that.
How about answering her question?
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Well what can you tell us about this member that she's referring to? If you're going to dimiss her claim competely out of hand then you should at least explain why it's impossible.
Intruder was a user that registered, ON THE OLD FORUM, and was an error in the database conversion. Since the user hadnt ever posted, nor logged in in ages, I just left it. The user used an ATT dialup account (in the Los Angeles area) to register back in 2002. No other member ever has even had a similar IP range.
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Okay, thanks. Any chance of getting my other question answered any time soon?
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My biggest problem in all this is that this is the 2nd time this has happened just before an album and it apparently is part of the reason two people who helped make interference were let go. They apparently were the only two who were dead on right about the whole thing. That troubles me.

The fact that confidential information about two former mods was shared troubles me.

Any chance you all read our PM's too? I no longer feel I can use that feature because confidentiality does not seem to mean much.

I believe you are correct, no one is going to believe you at this point. Lock the thread.
a) as I've already said elsewhere, it was NOT the reason the two mods were let go.

b) We've had lots of mods, it was an example to help people understand.

c) The two people came to me with their problems for help/advice as a personal friend. I wasnt sitting their reading PMs, nor do I ever. Do you think someone at Microsoft sits there and reads everyone's hotmail? I highly doubt it.. yet it's stored in an unencrypted database. I've commented earlier and been quite open with the fact that PMs are private, yet stored in a database (duh), and that I am the only one on staff that CAN access them if need be. 'need be' does not arise that often, but has when at times certain members of the forum have gone missing for awhile, people are worried about them, and ask me to look into it - this usually only comes from our team however. To be quite honest, I could couldnt care less about what people do or say with their PMs, they could as easily send an email, or IM.
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And in reponse to FA's comment about Democracy....

Who ever said that this forum was a govt? Good lord. The forum rules/faq is posted, mods and admins are appointed positions, new features are suggested - not voted on.

I'm off to work, which isnt a democracy either. lol.
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I know this question wasn't directed at me, but allow me to answer anyway.

This whole situation stinks. Given the evidence presented, to believe that Elvis and his content staff were duped by the faux Edge means that you would have to think that they are, at best, stupid. There was plenty of evidence at the time that showed that this poster was not the real Edge, but it was either stupidly ignored or intentionally ignored. A recounting of the chain of events (with some specifics) would go a long way in showing which was the case, which may be why the "document" that Elvis claimed to be working on days ago has not yet appeared. I think we deserve to know if we've been lied to or not.
What evidence? an IP address? We've already addressed how IP addresses can be used, routed, etc. IP addresses can be very misleading if the person behind them wants them to be. Please read my earlier post about this.


And now.. again.. I'm off to work.
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Any chance of getting my other question answered any time soon?
*clears throat loudly*

Is there a daily quota, or something?
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*clears throat loudly*

Is there a daily quota, or something?
Which one?
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What evidence? an IP address? We've already addressed how IP addresses can be used, routed, etc. IP addresses can be very misleading if the person behind them wants them to be. Please read my earlier post about this.


And now.. again.. I'm off to work.
More than IP addreses. Come on, Elvis.
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Which one?
I asked you to answer Ms Harlem's question upthread.
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More than IP addreses. Come on, Elvis.
There are no facts besides IP at this point. If you can give me some other facts that are evidence I'd be happy to look them over.

And since people here like to get overly technical abot words...

Main Entry: 1ev·i·dence
Pronunciation: 'e-v&-d&n(t)s, -v&-"den(t)s
Function: noun
1 a : an outward sign : INDICATION b : something that furnishes proof : TESTIMONY; specifically : something legally submitted to a tribunal to ascertain the truth of a matter
2 : one who bears witness; especially : one who voluntarily confesses a crime and testifies for the prosecution against his accomplices
- in evidence 1 : to be seen : CONSPICUOUS <trim lawns ... are everywhere in evidence -- Amer. Guide Series: N.C.> 2 : as evidence
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I asked you to answer Ms Harlem's question upthread.
I'm not sure which you're talking about... but she references other people KNOWING it was a fake... and this goes back to the whole 'know','fact', 'evidence' comments I've made. I've not heard anyone tell me what they KNOW besides an IP address.

I'm late. I will be back tonight.
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