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Old 10-15-2004, 06:42 PM   #196
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The more you talk in circles, Joel, the more it sounds like my speculation is right on the money.
I agree. When this happened, it was very reminiscent of what happened a couple of years ago. I knew, and *expected* this to be yet another ruse to get more people to this site... one of those, "hey we didn't know it was him, either" kinds of things.

The only way you could have possibly known it was The Edge is if you talked to him yourself. Obviously, you didn't, but yet you were so adamant that it was him. You do really owe this community (and especially those who paid for premium memberships in order to talk to fake Edge) and explanation. And the "I didn't know it was him" is bullshit.

Joel, you have told lots and lots of people lots and lots of stories. There are many of us in this forum who really don't believe anything you say - your credibility is shattered based on the words that have come out of your mouth and into our ears. You expect us to believe you after that?

And, not to bring up an obviously sore subject with you, but there have been many occasions on this board where people have asked for exact specifications of what things cost around here. In the past, you have completely avoided the issue. I think you need to just be open and honest (for once) to the community. Yoy really need to show some principle and integrity here. You haven't shown much of it at all.

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Old 10-15-2004, 06:54 PM   #197
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the problem here is that the people who doubted were treated like shit.
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Old 10-15-2004, 06:58 PM   #198
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The more you talk in circles, Joel, the more it sounds like my speculation is right on the money.

No pun intended.

Not to mention that only 2 days ago, Katey told me by email you guys got "raked over the coals so we have to remove it all" by PM, pulicists and U2.com
All that needs to be done is an anonymous recounting of how the U2 interview was done/obtained and how/why the Edge's postings were determined to be authentic.

For example: Person A said they got an interview with u2. They showed us a copy. We believed them. We didn't check. We posted it.

Person A is obviously not anyone involved with Interference because you have stated no one on the interference team mislead us.

OR: We were contacted by someone we thought was the edge....they had lots of details and facts. We didn't check it out... Just accepted it as the truth.

Whatever the explanation is...it can't be more than a few sentences of how this all occured.

I look forward to the general description of events but doubt I will see them.
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:01 PM   #199
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Personally I felt that the way this whole situation was handled was very unprofessional, and it was not treated with the importance and expediency that such a serious matter deserved, in both the closing of the threads of the doubters, and in confirming the identity of the poster. While I understand message boards and e-mail bring a certain level of intimacy that can make people feel comfortable and trusting with each other, it still often lacks 100% proof on such serious matters.

However, I do feel that Elvis and Interference.com staff were decieved, and genuinly wish to find out the truth and want to remedy this situation. For coming out with the truth, and doing their best to remedy the situation, I commend them. I feel that this is probably a learning experience for the Interference.com staff, and nothing like this will happen in the future.
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:02 PM   #200
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What an angry thread, and for good reasons, but I can't believe the attacks on Elvis. I mean really, this time elvis was fooled and it sounds like he was fooled by a staff member and now he is trying to protect her. Can you blame the guy... this has to be embarrassing and I doubt all the work and time he has spent on this site he would do something like this intentionally, I just really don't. Stunts may have been pulled in the past, but not on this level and I don't remember Elvis actually saying, "this is for sure" in the past. I think elvis is a U2 fan that wanted to believe just like all of us
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:05 PM   #201
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I have been a member here from the get-go. I have lost absolutely no sleep over this matter. This seems to be an honest mistake on the part of the interference team, and they seem to be extremely apologetic over this fact. Everybody should just walk away from all this. There are far too many words and far too many discussions over the matter, in my opinion. Take a deep breath, and forget it. In the past four+ years, I have gained way too much knowledge, have corresponded with far too many great people, and spent far too much time entertaining myself here on this forum to let this bother me the slightest bit. It's the internet!

I have nothing but respect for the mods on this board, and of course, Joel. We need to focus on the fact that our boys have a new album out in a matter of weeks, not that some goofball with a computer and too much time on their hands basically pulled a fast one on us! I'm not leaving, I'm not mad, and I still love this place the same as always.

TOO MUCH DRAMA.
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:08 PM   #202
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I have been a member here from the get-go. I have lost absolutely no sleep over this matter. This seems to be an honest mistake on the part of the interference team, and they seem to be extremely apologetic over this fact. Everybody should just walk away from all this. There are far too many words and far too many discussions over the matter, in my opinion. Take a deep breath, and forget it. In the past four+ years, I have gained way too much knowledge, have corresponded with far too many great people, and spent far too much time entertaining myself here on this forum to let this bother me the slightest bit. It's the internet!

I have nothing but respect for the mods on this board, and of course, Joel. We need to focus on the fact that our boys have a new album out in a matter of weeks, not that some goofball with a computer and too much time on their hands basically pulled a fast one on us! I'm not leaving, I'm not mad, and I still love this place the same as always.

TOO MUCH DRAMA.

exactly my thoughts
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:09 PM   #203
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What an angry thread, and for good reasons, but I can't believe the attacks on Elvis. I mean really, this time elvis was fooled and it sounds like he was fooled by a staff member and now he is trying to protect her. Can you blame the guy... this has to be embarrassing and I doubt all the work and time he has spent on this site he would do something like this intentionally, I just really don't. Stunts may have been pulled in the past, but not on this level and I don't remember Elvis actually saying, "this is for sure" in the past. I think elvis is a U2 fan that wanted to believe just like all of us
Elvis wasn't fooled for ONE second on any of this. He OWNS this site, directs the entire staff, and anyone who thinks he didn't know about this little stunt from day 1 is living in fantasyland.
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:12 PM   #204
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Elvis wasn't fooled for ONE second on any of this. He OWNS this site, directs the entire staff, and anyone who thinks he didn't know about this little stunt from day 1 is living in fantasyland.
So it is not possible that elvis can be fooled?
just like that guy on law and order, the Detective that can not be fooled...
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:17 PM   #205
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I have been a member here from the get-go. I have lost absolutely no sleep over this matter. This seems to be an honest mistake on the part of the interference team, and they seem to be extremely apologetic over this fact. Everybody should just walk away from all this. There are far too many words and far too many discussions over the matter, in my opinion. Take a deep breath, and forget it. In the past four+ years, I have gained way too much knowledge, have corresponded with far too many great people, and spent far too much time entertaining myself here on this forum to let this bother me the slightest bit. It's the internet!

I have nothing but respect for the mods on this board, and of course, Joel. We need to focus on the fact that our boys have a new album out in a matter of weeks, not that some goofball with a computer and too much time on their hands basically pulled a fast one on us! I'm not leaving, I'm not mad, and I still love this place the same as always.

TOO MUCH DRAMA.
I agree, it is too much drama. Thing is the drama was created because A. Interference perpretrated a deliberate fraud OR B. did not triple and quadruple the validity of this poster. Either way, THEY are responsible. Its amazing that some of you are giving them a free pass on this? So its the internet and the new album is coming??? Does that mean no one is accountable for anything that is done? BS
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:19 PM   #206
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Its amazing that some of you are giving them a free pass on this? So its the internet and the new album is coming??? Does that mean no one is accountable for anything that is done? BS
I think at this time elvis has taken accountability, but you did not answer my question...
can elvis not be fooled?
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It seems to me that this is very simple, and that there are only two possibilities here.

1. The Interference staff, using some mysterious standard of identification (which cannot be revealed to us because it is so OMG SEKRIT), came to believe that the interview and the poster were, in fact, legit. Unless this was a VERY smooth-talking teenager from Chicago, that means that the senior staff here is guilty of the kind of gross incompetence rarely seen outside of the federal government.

2. The Interference staff intentionally misled everyone.

Does the phrase "Occam's razor" mean anything to anyone here?

The fact remains, we have been told nothing, and I refuse to believe that the account of the initial contact with the alleged band member is SO COMPLEX AND HUGE that it can't be told in a few sentences. We don't want a Warren Report, not now; a simple "here's who we talked to at first and how, and here's what they said" would suffice. Will we get that? Who the hell knows.

And as many, many people have pointed out, once money changes hands in an organized way, something is a business. Just because a business happens to be losing money, or the people are doing it for fun, doesn't make it less of a business.

Also, am I the only one amused by the request for funds for a new server IMMEDIATELY after the non-apology apology message in the EYKIW announcement?
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I think at this time elvis has taken accountability, but you did not answer my question...
can elvis not be fooled?
I didnt know I was responding to you or asking YOU a question??? LOL

Yes, he could be fooled. But I dont think he checked on this enough. Beli had information to prove it was false and according to her Elvis and Katey ignored her. What does that tell you??
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The world wide web is tangled enough as it is.


Most of the people on this forum appear to be something they are probably not in REAL LIFE.


They post every day and get away with it scot-free.


I'm fine with that. Even if they claimed to be a multi-million dollar rock star.


We'll all be fine.
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Old 10-15-2004, 07:40 PM   #210
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Truthfully I was a little suspecious with the Edge's post which is why I never made it such a big deal. What gave it away that he may be fake was the response to NO CONTROL's thread a while back (thread has been deleted by staff). I am shocked about the news part though but not about the Edge not being the Edge.
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