genesis199125
The Fly
just out of curiousity, what shows will you be attending on this tour, maoil?
Not this time. Their power to draw, their ability to fill a stadium is not a reflection of the economy as much as it is a reflection of declining relevance. .
USA leg 2009
Total gross $52,420,880
Total shows 8
Sold out 8
Attendance 551,898
Average attendance 68,987
Well, not to beat a dead horse, but I used to drop everything: family, job, etc. to fly or drive half way across the country to see a U2 concert. Paid premium broker prices if necessary. Not this time. Their power to draw, their ability to fill a stadium is not a reflection of the economy as much as it is a reflection of declining relevance. If they want to sell out stadiums, they need to go back to making the kind of music that turns radio on its head, that "effs the mainstream" (to quote Bono), and not do these concerts where a full 1/3 of the setlist consists of lackluster songs from a drab album that radio won't touch. Admit it, don't you long for the days when radio stations would play "Numb?" or even the much maligned "Discotheque?" Achtung Baby was the summit folks, but they still produced great work through the 90s and early 00s. NLOTH is just recycled U2. Most people, myself included, would MUCH rather hear the warhorses, or even the obscure gems ("So Cruel" or "The Hands That Built America") than these current yawners, which no amount of dressing up or stage extravagance can save.
u2 boxscores usa!
giants stadium $16,128,950 161,810/161,810 2/2
soldier field $13,860,480 135,872/135,872 2/2
gillette stadium $12,859,778 138,805/138,805 2/2
rogers center $9,571,672 115,411/115,411 2/2
The #1 reason U2 has not soldout in these cities is because of the 360 stage set up. Few people dare to play stadiums in these cities and no one has ever played them in a 360 set up before. The 360 set up free's up tens of thousands of more seats that would normally be blocked by the stage. This makes it incredibly difficult, or essentially impossible to sellout these venues in these cities given the size of the stadium, and the size of the market.
Take it a step further. In 1997, U2 sold out 2 shows at Giants Stadium. I believe they sold 46,666 seats for each show (the 3rd show only 36k) and it was considered "sold out". The most recent two shows played to 84k and 77k respectively. So clearly, the stage adds a great deal of seats (thats near double capacity from 46k to 84k)...WOW
These were the results for GIANTS Stadium POPMART:
U2 POPMART TOUR:
May 31, June 1, 3, 1997
East Rutherford, New Jersey
Giants Stadium
GROSS: $6,499,131
ATTENDANCE: 129,644
SHOWS: 3
SELLOUTS: 0
Average Ticket Price: $50.13
None of the three Giants Stadium shows on POPMART soldout although the first two shows did look full. Most shows that are not in 360 sellout at about 55,000 to 60,000 at Giants Stadium.
What do you have for PoPMart Chicago? I have 42,500, (sold out), 42,500 (sold out) and 31,972 with a total gross of 5,956,587. My LA PoPMart is 64,488 sold out, which if they are playing to 90k for 360, would be a 25k increase, which is HUGE!These were the results for GIANTS Stadium POPMART:
U2 POPMART TOUR:
May 31, June 1, 3, 1997
East Rutherford, New Jersey
Giants Stadium
GROSS: $6,499,131
ATTENDANCE: 129,644
SHOWS: 3
SELLOUTS: 0
Average Ticket Price: $50.13
None of the three Giants Stadium shows on POPMART soldout although the first two shows did look full. Most shows that are not in 360 sellout at about 55,000 to 60,000 at Giants Stadium.
I'm pretty sure Chicago 2 was sold out. Unless there were 5,000 single empty seats sparatically spread throughout the stadium. There were no noticeable sections of empty seats. Believe me, I was looking for empties.
Think again. They have the 2nd biggest selling album worldwide of the year and the U2 360 tour will soon be the highest grossing and highest attended tour in history. Its possible the tour will gross $700 million with 6.5 million to 7 million in attendance. 2nd Biggest selling album of the year plus the most successful tour in history is not a sign of declining relevance, its the exact opposite.
Best Selling Albums in 2009 WORLDWIDE as of WEEK 39
1. Lady Gaga The Fame 3,583,000
2. U2 No Line On The Horizon 3,295,000
Do you have an official source (more official than my notebook , which I got the info from Billboard mag back in 97)?
What do you have for PoPMart Chicago? I have 42,500, (sold out), 42,500 (sold out) and 31,972 with a total gross of 5,956,587. My LA PoPMart is 64,488 sold out, which if they are playing to 90k for 360, would be a 25k increase, which is HUGE!
I only have one question
Who in the hell is buying Lady GaGa CD's
The way the industry has worked since at least 1977, is that all if all tickets that are released for sell are sold, then the concert is marked a "sellout" even if the maximum physical capacity of the venue has not been used.
Every U2 show since 2001 has sold all the tickets that were released. Even on POPMART where there were several shows that did not sellout. For example, Mile High Stadium in Denver, which had an attendance of 28,000 for POPMART was listed as not being soldout with the capacity at 45,000. But 45,000 is not the maximum physical capacity of the stadium, its only the number of tickets that were released to the public. If U2 had sold all 45,000 tickets, the show would have been marked as a sellout, even though on ZOO TV they played to a larger crowd of 55,000.
This is how the industry works, and is something that it is seen with all artist that tour.
Charlottesville was the worse one in regards to sales before Norman Ok or maybe Houston but if you look at the videos that show was pretty packed! I think some people underestimated ticket sales so far in the U.S.
For several months now since after the first day that tickets went on sale, the only tickets that have been available in pairs were $95 and $30 dollar tickets on the top level of the stadium. In fact, with top level having 30 rows, one usually could not get a ticket lower than the 20th row.
Then recently, a few weeks ago, there was a ticket drop for multiple price levels in the lower sections, including $250 tickets. Based on these facts this show should sellout or be at least 95% full.
Well, the initial batch of tickets for the floor and lower level, with the exception of $250 tickets soldout the first day. Thats at least half of the stadium capacity for the show right there. When you include tickets sold in the upper level, its more than half. I don't know if it will sellout, but it should definitely have more than 50,000 people in attendance which will be a record for U2 in Texas, only to be topped by the Dallas 360 show.
If you go to Ticketmaster, you can still get at least 20 tickets at each price level with the exception of GA tickets. That's a bit alarming....I was hoping for it to be sold-out.
Charlottesville was the worse one in regards to sales before Norman Ok or maybe Houston but if you look at the videos that show was pretty packed! I think some people underestimated ticket sales so far in the U.S.
They are selling party pass tickets at $30 for Dallas on ticketmaster now. if they sell those out dallas could have a potential of 90-100 thousand
stand outside and watch it on screen. typical jerry jones wankery, i hope nobody is dumb enough to actually buy those tickets.what does this mean? Tickets in standing areas? but that's not the GA, or is it?
stand outside and watch it on screen. typical jerry jones wankery, i hope nobody is dumb enough to actually buy those tickets.