Week 20

[doctorwho]

This is actually incorrect

ALL THAT YOU CAN'T LEAVE BEHIND
UK Date: 11/11/2000 - Run: *1*-4-10-20-25-26-28-29- (8 wsf)
06/01/2001: 29-23-17-12-12- 7-7-8-10-3-6-8-12-14-23-30-39-41-49-54-65-60-53-47-47-58-65-56-47-37-30-23-22-15-16-23-34-42-53-64-0-0-74-60-50-57-69-0-71-54-61-60- (57 wsf)
05/01/2002: 64-56-60 (60-48c/10-9c/1 wks)
Re #01: 09/03/2002 64-74 (2 wks)
Total # of re-entries: 3 (Top 10: 1)
Total # of weeks: 62-48c (Top 10: 10-9c, Top 20: 18 Top 40: 33, #1: 1) US:#3/94/3

In its 20th week ATYCLB was at #8 therefore far higher up the charts than HTDAAB is at this stage.

This is quite true...however, I'm not sure of all the reasons that caused this spike. As you can see from the chart run, ATYCLB had dropped to #29, then jumped back up to #3.

I do recall U2 playing on a U.K. TV show and winning an award. This had the same effect that the Grammy Awards do in the U.S. - and it caused the album to fly up the charts. I also think that U2 released "Stuck..." around this time, which debuted at #2. So the two combined helped ATYCLB move up the charts.

HTDAAB had a different single release pattern and was also released later in the year (as compared to ATYCLB). U2 won no major awards either. As such, there was no reason for a spike. Therefore, one can't really compare the two albums directly as different events (tour, TV appearances, awards, singles) will have an effect on the album's chart position.

When the next single is released and U2 hits Europe this summer, HTDAAB will fly back up the charts - it's a given. It'll probably return to #1 in Ireland and I wouldn't be surprised to see top 10, if not top 5 even, in the U.K.

 

[mikeuk]

This is quite true...however, I'm not sure of all the reasons that caused this spike. As you can see from the chart run, ATYCLB had dropped to #29, then jumped back up to #3.

I do recall U2 playing on a U.K. TV show and winning an award. This had the same effect that the Grammy Awards do in the U.S. - and it caused the album to fly up the charts. I also think that U2 released "Stuck..." around this time, which debuted at #2. So the two combined helped ATYCLB move up the charts.

u2 were awarded a lifetime achievement award at The Brits - and played live. 3 of the 4 songs performed then shown on national TV the day afterwards. U2 then sold 200k CDs (mainly ATYCLB - but other CDs also charted) over the following 2 weeks in the UK.

Mike

 

[edge3]

Right, here's my prediction for W.21 of HTDAAB at Mediatraffic : No.20 (-14% to 80K).

 

[Tallarico]

For me they 'll resist in top 20 in World chart...

 

[04072511]

This is quite true...however, I'm not sure of all the reasons that caused this spike. As you can see from the chart run, ATYCLB had dropped to #29, then jumped back up to #3.

I do recall U2 playing on a U.K. TV show and winning an award. This had the same effect that the Grammy Awards do in the U.S. - and it caused the album to fly up the charts. I also think that U2 released "Stuck..." around this time, which debuted at #2. So the two combined helped ATYCLB move up the charts.

HTDAAB had a different single release pattern and was also released later in the year (as compared to ATYCLB). U2 won no major awards either. As such, there was no reason for a spike. Therefore, one can't really compare the two albums directly as different events (tour, TV appearances, awards, singles) will have an effect on the album's chart position.

When the next single is released and U2 hits Europe this summer, HTDAAB will fly back up the charts - it's a given. It'll probably return to #1 in Ireland and I wouldn't be surprised to see top 10, if not top 5 even, in the U.K.

SIAMYCGOO was responsible for pushin ATYCLB up the charts back into the top 20 and then top 10. After this U2 received the "Outstanding Contrabution To Music" award at the brits and this pushed the album up to number 3

When the Elevation tour came to the UK the album moved back up to as high as # 15. However I think that this tour will have a far bigger effect on album sales as they are playing far bigger venues and to a far bigger audience. With the release of the next single around this time, don't be surprised if the album moved back up to #1. It certainly is possible.

 

[beLIEve]

How about the rest of the world?

This took a while, but it became very interesting. U2 has to be the most popular band in the world. Here are the charts from countries that I don't THINK have been listed already:

Charts around the World (Surprised me!)

Europe Top 100 Albums form Billboard
HTDAAB slips 1 spot to #17
Europe Top 100 Singles form Billboard
Sometimes drops from 54 to 76
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Latvia

Sometimes at #25 on Top 50 Airplay Chart
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Austria

Sometimes at #48 on Top 75 Singles Chart
HTDAAB at #29 on Top 100 Albums Chart
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Estonia

Vertigo is at #15 on Singles Chart
HTDAAB is at #15 on Album Chart
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Czech Republic

Sometimes is at #21 on Singles Chart
HTDAAB is at #27 on Album Chart
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Slovakia

Sometimes at #24 on Singles Chart
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Lithuania

Sometimes at #12 on Singles Chart
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Switzerland

Sometimes at #73 on Top 100 Singles Chart
HTDAAB at #59 on Top 100 Albums Chart
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Croatia

Sometimes at #6 on Top 10 Radio Play Chart (foreign artists)
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Hungary

Vertigo re-enters “Editor’s Choice Top 40 radio” at #39
Sometimes re-enters “Top 10 Album Cuts” at #7
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Russia (Rock Radio Airplay Top 10 FM102)

Miracle Drug is at #9 (#5 last week)
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Yugoslavia

Sometimes #5 on Radio Playlists
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Albania

Sometimes #4 on Top 20 Singles Chart
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Mexico

Vertigo #91 on Hot 100 Singles Chart
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Costa Rica

Vertigo is #7 on Radio Airplay Chart
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Singapore

Sometimes rises to #24 w/bullet on Top 30 Countdown
Vertigo slides to 28 from 23
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Philippines

ABOY #7 on “most played songs on playlist”
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Indonesia

Sometimes #34 on Top 40 (10th wk, peaked @ 5)
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India

Vertigo re-enters Top 20 singles at #17 (peaked @ 6)
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South Africa

ABOY up to #8 & Sometimes down to 22 on World Singles Chart
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Brazil

ABOY up to #23 on POP 100 Radio Play Chart
Vertigo down to 54 on same chart
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Argentina

HTDAAB #13 on Top 20 Album Chart
Sometimes up 7 spots to #5 on Top 100 singles (peaking again)
Vertigo down 1 spot to 30 on same chart
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Peru

Sometimes #8 on Top Radio Airplay Chart
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Columbia

Sometimes debuts at #19 on Top 20 Radio Chart
Sometimes rises 6 spots to #27 on Singles Chart
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Chile

Vertigo is at #67 on Top 100 Singles Chart
Sometimes debuts at 89 on same chart
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[fitz]

Austria #31 (#29)

 

[STING2]

And...



Yes, I hope you're proved correct.

BTW - What do you think of my estimated Mediatraffic figures up to & inc. W.20 (of MT chart)? That's :

6538M + 162K + 140K + 100K + 96K + 90K + 98K = current overall MT figure of 7224M + 93K (W.20 on MT chart) = 7317M

I thought it looked very accurate, especially with the supporting evidence you gave for your figures. But I guess Mediatraffic is claiming 7,224,000. Perhaps they will correct it on the next recount.

 

[beLIEve]

Global Chart Updated

HTDAAB falls from 16 to 17
Sometimes falls from 9 to 12

 

[mikeuk]

Global Chart Updated

HTDAAB falls from 16 to 17
Sometimes falls from 9 to 12

with 3 new entries ahead of Bomb this week, this is a good performance.

Mike

 

[fitz]

What about the sales - what's your estimation?

#16 Will Smith has sold alone in USA the last week 60k!

 

[fitz]

In Germany down from #26 to #33

 

[edge3]

What about the sales - what's your estimation?

#16 Will Smith has sold alone in USA the last week 60k!

Hi Fitz,

Yes...Well...Will Smith also sold around 10K in the UK last week. So I would think he sold at least 90K at Mediatraffic last week. Now thanks to Soldatti we have exact US sales figures for the BB top 200 (see N.American W.20 chart info. post). So I think we can make some good estimations :

The one definite estimation is that U2 must have sold over 60K last week because 112 Pleasure & Pain sold 60K in US and are at #27 on MT chart & Lisa Marie Presley debuted at #28 (56K in US). So I think U2 sold 70 - 80K (probably 80K) of HTDAAB.

This means that 'the bomb' SHOULD have sold at least 7387M overall. But Mediatraffic have now got me completely confused :

They say Green Day's American Idiot sold 160K (-8%) and then say "...in 29 weeks on the tally American Idiot sold nearly 7.1M copies." But if that's the case then American Idiot should have sold 6986 (last weeks overall MT total) + 160K = 7146M (well over 7.1M!).

Mediatraffic are clearly making mistakes and this therefore leads me to conclude that, like U2, MT have got GD's overall figure completley wrong - American Idiot should now have sold :
6986M + 174K (last weeks figure) +160K (this weeks figure) = 7320M.

Can anyone else shed some light on this? (I think I need to get some sleep!)

 

[edge3]

OK - I've had some sleep and....

Will Smith was also at #10 in Canada this week so that's maybe another 5K. But he dosen't seem to be on any other charts (apart from US, UK & Canada). So I'm sure he would have sold at least 76K at Mediatraffic. Which means that in W.21 at MT 'the bomb' should have sold at least 60-75K. If I was to go for an actual figure I would now say 75K. So this would mean an overall figure of :

either : 7224M + 75K = 7299M (what I think MT probably thinks)

or : 7317M + 75K = 7392M (what I think MT should think)

Anyone agree / got a better idea?

 

[Squire]

Update >>>

Portugal: HTDAAB falls to 23#.

Chart: 1-1-1-1-3-4-5-9-13-13-13-13-14-12-12-9-14-20-19-23

Vertigo Run: 1-1-2-5-9-13-16-20-19-12-14-10-14-18-18-out-out-...

SYCMIOYO Run: 3-1-1-0-0-3-2

Sales: Aprox. 70.000

 

[fitz]

Spain #42 (#40)

 

[Vox02]

A bit later, sorry!

SPAIN


Chart:
1-5-5-5-5-6-6-9-9-9-
10-9-12-15-21-27-29-34-40-42

Sales: 200,000 (2x Platinum)

Vertigo Run:
1-1-1-4-1-2-3-3-4-1-
2-4-3-3-8-6-12-14-16-19
16-15

Sometimes Run:
1-2-4-4-5-6-9-11


Vox