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why are we all blaming the promotion for magnifcents lack of success. i know people on this forum will be biased, but havent we stopped and thought - maybe the song wasnt good enough.

Is that why "Sunday Bloody Sunday" never charted on the HOT 100, because it was "just not good enough"?

People can't decide whether they like something or not if they have never heard it before. Much of the general public has yet to even hear Magnifcent one time, at least when it comes to be played on the radio.
 
Magnificent will turn out as a U2 classic. A top 10 hit isn't necessary for that. Sunday bloody sunday and Bad are good examples. The song is a favourite tune for a lot of fans.
Just wait for the shows and look what the song will do to the crowd.

Maybe a live version will be released.:applaud::applaud:
 
I wouldn't call it recycled, but it lacks something Beautiful Day and many others have. Can't exactly define it, but there is something missing in it. Still like the song though but I can see why it doesn't catch fire on the radio.
 
I wouldn't call it recycled, but it lacks something Beautiful Day and many others have. Can't exactly define it, but there is something missing in it. Still like the song though but I can see why it doesn't catch fire on the radio.

Yeah, it lacks a good radio edit and promotion. It doesn't fall short anywhere else.
 
Yeah, it lacks a good radio edit and promotion. It doesn't fall short anywhere else.

im going to have to agree with you here Moser, Magnificent is a great song and the reason its not a "top ten hit" or whatever at this point is because mainstream music is garbage. I guess i just have to accept that and move on. If U2, at this point, were to have a #1 hit song then i probably would hate it because it would probably suck worse than "my life would suck without you". Therefore my life does not suck without a big hit single from u2.
 
The song is great, I just think NLOTH is an "underground" album and U2 not doing the mainstream thing. I agree that they shouldn't make songs just to get them in the top 10 and sacrifice quality just to fit in and I'm starting to realize U2 might be on the outside looking in now in terms of catering to the masses. I don't mind them starting to slope the bell curve, but if things don't go well, I guess they could do ATYCLB II (a great album for sure, but I think 9/11 really pushed the band back into the mainstream). I just hope they keep on expirementing and pushing the envelope.
 
What is NLOTH up to worldwide now? I think tours make the $ nowadays anyway and I have a feeling 360 will be one of the top grossers of all time.

there you go...much more important than this album i think. I love the new album but face it this band lives to play for its audience i would rather that be the success than singles or chart position.
 
Just finished reading the latest Billboard print edition, and it does support some of the things that have been brought up on this thread. The focus of the magazine was on this year's touring business, and how it's shaping up to be pretty amazing considering the economic recession going on worldwide. One specific comment about album sales, which have "completely tanked since January 2009". "Green Day could suffer the same effect that U2's NLOTH did by missing the Christmas selling season, when album sales were at least reasonable. Still, U2's latest album did sell nearly 500,000 units in it's first week and is the best selling release in the U.S. this year. Green Day may not reach half of U2's debut week, and thus come in below AI's initial week of 267,000 units sold. All told, U2's delayed release probably cost them between 500,000 - 1,000,000 units over the album's sales life cycle."

"Still, touring has held up very well, and U2 is doing what U2 should be doing; selling out stadiums across the world and headed towards what may well be the highest grossing, or at least attended, tour in history."

Billboard seems to dislike U2...at least IMHO. They went on to rank this summer's "best attractions" with respect to seeing live acts, and put No Doubt's reunion tour in their top 10, and barely mentioned the U2 360 tour in their "best of the rest" category. That could be due to the fact that the article really was focused on this summer, June through August, in the U.S., and U2 doesn't get stateside until September 12.

I personally love NLOTH, and I can already tell I'll be listening to it much more than the last two studio efforts. No, it's not a great fit for today's radio, but those who have heard it and have let it grow on them...they know what a gem it is, and I agree that it's kinda got an "underground" feel to it...like it's got some exclusivity to it, which is the polar opposite of HTDAAB. The album also seems to have universal appeal, as it's selling really well outside of the usual places (UK and US). I think history will be very kind to NLOTH.

One more thing...while U2 have missed the traditional Christmas selling season, they will be touring major markets here leading right up to the holiday shopping season. With stadium attendance being up to 100K as some of these venues, it seems like they could sell quite a few copies of NL at each of the concerts as well, whether before or after. If "Songs of Ascent" is released for this Fall, they could bundle both albums together, too, and that might boost NLOTH long-term sales success as well.

I'll keep chart watching and post what I hope is interesting, but at this point, I just don't think singles and radio airplay is going to be a major factor in future sales. That being said, Magnificent is now in it's 3rd straight week at #13 on Billboard's Top 15 songs - airplay only - across all of Europe. It's run on that chart has been 24-15-15-13-13-13. Sales may not be much, but that is hardly a "flop" to me, and as others have pointed out, the lack of promotion and seemingly botched singles strategy may be somewhat intentional to get people to buy the entire album, not one song, as NLOTH is truly a great album experience. IMHO, it needs to be listened to all the way through, as the whole journey is much greater than the sum of it's parts (singles/songs).
 
there you go...much more important than this album i think. I love the new album but face it this band lives to play for its audience i would rather that be the success than singles or chart position.

Completely agree, tours make the albums run nowadays anyways and how can you blame the bands when their music is being "stolen" and they can make a killing doing live shows (megabands that is).
 
Just finished reading the latest Billboard print edition, and it does support some of the things that have been brought up on this thread. The focus of the magazine was on this year's touring business, and how it's shaping up to be pretty amazing considering the economic recession going on worldwide. One specific comment about album sales, which have "completely tanked since January 2009". "Green Day could suffer the same effect that U2's NLOTH did by missing the Christmas selling season, when album sales were at least reasonable. Still, U2's latest album did sell nearly 500,000 units in it's first week and is the best selling release in the U.S. this year. Green Day may not reach half of U2's debut week, and thus come in below AI's initial week of 267,000 units sold. All told, U2's delayed release probably cost them between 500,000 - 1,000,000 units over the album's sales life cycle."

"Still, touring has held up very well, and U2 is doing what U2 should be doing; selling out stadiums across the world and headed towards what may well be the highest grossing, or at least attended, tour in history."

Billboard seems to dislike U2...at least IMHO. They went on to rank this summer's "best attractions" with respect to seeing live acts, and put No Doubt's reunion tour in their top 10, and barely mentioned the U2 360 tour in their "best of the rest" category. That could be due to the fact that the article really was focused on this summer, June through August, in the U.S., and U2 doesn't get stateside until September 12.

I personally love NLOTH, and I can already tell I'll be listening to it much more than the last two studio efforts. No, it's not a great fit for today's radio, but those who have heard it and have let it grow on them...they know what a gem it is, and I agree that it's kinda got an "underground" feel to it...like it's got some exclusivity to it, which is the polar opposite of HTDAAB. The album also seems to have universal appeal, as it's selling really well outside of the usual places (UK and US). I think history will be very kind to NLOTH.

One more thing...while U2 have missed the traditional Christmas selling season, they will be touring major markets here leading right up to the holiday shopping season. With stadium attendance being up to 100K as some of these venues, it seems like they could sell quite a few copies of NL at each of the concerts as well, whether before or after. If "Songs of Ascent" is released for this Fall, they could bundle both albums together, too, and that might boost NLOTH long-term sales success as well.

I'll keep chart watching and post what I hope is interesting, but at this point, I just don't think singles and radio airplay is going to be a major factor in future sales. That being said, Magnificent is now in it's 3rd straight week at #13 on Billboard's Top 15 songs - airplay only - across all of Europe. It's run on that chart has been 24-15-15-13-13-13. Sales may not be much, but that is hardly a "flop" to me, and as others have pointed out, the lack of promotion and seemingly botched singles strategy may be somewhat intentional to get people to buy the entire album, not one song, as NLOTH is truly a great album experience. IMHO, it needs to be listened to all the way through, as the whole journey is much greater than the sum of it's parts (singles/songs).

I think more and more music nowadays is based on singles and the album concept is pretty much dead, but I'm so happy the boys aren't giving up on them and continue to put out cohesive bodies of work. I want it to be more of a story and a piece of art as opposed to throwaway cotton candy BS that's often on the radio today.
 
The song is great, I just think NLOTH is an "underground" album and U2 not doing the mainstream thing. I agree that they shouldn't make songs just to get them in the top 10 and sacrifice quality just to fit in and I'm starting to realize U2 might be on the outside looking in now in terms of catering to the masses. I don't mind them starting to slope the bell curve, but if things don't go well, I guess they could do ATYCLB II (a great album for sure, but I think 9/11 really pushed the band back into the mainstream). I just hope they keep on expirementing and pushing the envelope.


NLOTH is an "underground" album? Hold on a second, lets take a look at what the masses have actually been buying in 2009 to date:

Biggest selling albums through WEEK 19 of 2009 in the United States:

Rank - Sales - TITLE - Artist
01 - 1,077,364 - FEARLESS - Taylor Swift
02 - 882,296 - NO LINE ON THE HORIZON - U2
03 - 826,012 - HANNAH MONTANA: THE MOVIE - Soundtrack
04 - 816,726 - TWILIGHT - Soundtrack
05 - 745,044 - DARK HORSE - Nickelback
06 - 696,829 - I AM…SASHA FIERCE - Beyonce
07 - 665,736 - THE FAME - Lady GaGa
08 - 636,887 - UNSTOPPABLE - Rascal Flatts
09 - 550,236 - ALL I EVER WANTED - Kelly Clarkson
10 - 535,454 - INTUITION - Jamie Foxx
11 - 529,277 - WORKING ON A DREAM - Bruce Springsteen
12 - 525,001 - THE FRAY - The Fray
13 - 493,179 - 808S AND HEARTBREAK - Kanye West
14 - 475,937 - NOW 30 - Various
15 - 429,523 - CIRCUS - Britney Spears
16 - 414,990 - A DIFFERENT ME - Keyshia Cole
17 - 401,196 - PAPER TRAIL - T.I.
18 - 369,317 - FUNHOUSE - Pink
19 - 361,869 - ONLY BY THE NIGHT - Kings Of Leon
20 - 358,988 - LOVE VS MONEY - The-Dream
21 - 356,245 - WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THINGS - Jason Mraz
22 - 344,271 - NOW 29 - Various
23 - 334,653 - DEFYING GRAVITY - Keith Urban
24 - 316,144 - LOTUS FLOW3R - Prince
25 - 314,701 - FREEDOM - Akon
26 - 314,266 - DAVID COOK - David Cook
27 - 310,006 - VIVA LA VIDA OR DEATH AND ALL HIS FRIENDS - Coldplay
28 - 299,230 - 19 - Adele
29 - 298,446 - THE FOUNDATION - Zac Brown Band
30 - 294,211 - SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE - Soundtrack
31 - 278,255 - LOVE ON THE INSIDE - Sugarland
32 - 278,004 - TAYLOR SWIFT - Taylor Swift
33 - 272,474 - LEARN TO LIVE - Darius Rucker
34 - 269,219 - THA CARTER III - Lil' Wayne
35 - 268,395 - YEAR OF THE GENTLEMAN - Ne-Yo
36 - 265,594 - MAMMA MIA - Soundtrack
37 - 262,546 - ROCK N ROLL JESUS - Kid Rock
38 - 258,728 - IN A PERFECT WORLD - Keri Hilson
39 - 255,312 - CARNIVAL RIDE - Carrie Underwood
40 - 249,900 - ONE OF THE BOYS - Katy Perry
41 - 246,127 - THE LAST KISS - Jadakiss
42 - 243,980 - DEEPER THAN RAP - Rick Ross
43 - 242,389 - QUIET NIGHTS - Diana Krall
44 - 236,900 - GOOD GIRL GONE BAD - Rihanna
45 - 233,056 - WHEN THE WORLD COMES DOWN - All-American Rejects
46 - 231,400 - RAISING SAND - Robert Plant & Alison Krauss
47 - 226,479 - TESTIMONY:VOL 2-LOVE AND POLITICS - India.Arie
48 - 220,735 - WIDE OPEN - Jason Aldean
49 - 212,039 - SCARS AND SOUVENIRS - Theory Of A Deadman
50 - 208,034 - SWAN SONGS - Hollywood Undead
51 - 200,398 - THAT LONESOME SONG - Jamey Johnson
52 - 199,914 - SOUL - Seal
53 - 198,700 - 2009 GRAMMY NOMINEES - Various
54 - 192,108 - DEATH MAGNETIC - Metallica
55 - 189,437 - IT'S NOT ME IT'S YOU - Lily Allen
56 - 185,411 - THE POINT OF IT ALL - Anthony Hamilton
57 - 184,678 - FEEL THAT FIRE - Dierks Bentley
58 - 184,157 - HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL 3: SENIOR YEAR - Soundtrack
59 - 183,391 - FOREVER IN THE DAY - Day26
60 - 183,389 - DAY AND AGE - Killers
61 - 182,900 - THEATER OF THE MIND - Ludacris
62 - 180,645 - GREATEST HITS VOLUME 1 - Rascal Flatts
63 - 180,255 - LADY ANTEBELLUM - Lady Antebellum
64 - 179,498 - JENNIFER HUDSON - Jennifer Hudson
65 - 176,613 - TOGETHER THROUGH LIFE - Bob Dylan
66 - 173,700 - UNCLE CHARLIE - Charlie Wilson
67 - 172,499 - KIDZ BOP 15 - Kidz Bop Kids
68 - 170,100 - DA REALIST - Plies
69 - 167,550 - THE SOUND OF MADNESS - Shinedown
70 - 164,312 - INCREDIBAD - Lonely Island
71 - 163,900 - GOLD-GREATEST HITS - Abba
72 - 156,523 - BLACK ICE - AC/DC
73 - 156,068 - EVOLVER - John Legend
74 - 155,358 - SPIRIT - Leona Lewis
75 - 154,701 - ISOULJABOYTELLEM - Soulja Boy Tell'em
76 - 154,000 - FOLIE A DEUX - Fall Out Boy
77 - 149,345 - R.O.O.T.S. (ROUTE OF OVERCOMING THE STRUGGLE) - Flo Rida
78 - 146,400 - GREATEST HITS - Guns N'Roses
79 - 145,448 - WRATH - Lamb Of God
80 - 143,691 - UGK FOR LIFE - UGK
81 - 143,573 - ONMYRADIO - Musiq Soulchild
82 - 142,700 - GREATEST HITS - Journey
83 - 141,293 - FEARLESS - Jazmine Sullivan
84 - 141,000 - THE REBIRTH - Bobby V
85 - 140,133 - THE PROMISE - Il Divo
86 - 138,207 - GOOD TIME - Alan Jackson
87 - 137,800 - NOTORIOUS - Soundtrack
88 - 137,050 - LEGEND - Bob Marley & the Wailers
89 - 134,183 - ORACULAR SPECTACULAR - MGMT
90 - 133,750 - TEN - Pearl Jam
91 - 133,500 - 3D CONCERT EXPERIENCE - Jonas Brothers
92 - 132,883 - DAVID ARCHULETA - David Archuleta
93 - 132,704 - THE RECESSION - Young Jeezy
94 - 128,152 - ALL HOPE IS GONE - Slipknot
95 - 127,625 - SAVING ABEL - Saving Abel
96 - 126,731 - TAKE IT TO THE LIMIT - Hinder
97 - 125,952 - LUCKY OLD SUN - Kenny Chesney
98 - 125,354 - ROCKFERRY - Duffy
99 - 123,900 - THR33 RINGZ - T-Pain
100 - 123,487 - INDESTRUCTIBLE - Disturbed


How can an "underground" album be the 2nd most popular album of the year?
 
I think more and more music nowadays is based on singles and the album concept is pretty much dead, but I'm so happy the boys aren't giving up on them and continue to put out cohesive bodies of work.


Singles only cost 99 cents to download and don't generate much revenue for the artist. 100,000 albums sold is equal or better than 1 million singles sold in terms of the money generated for the artist. It also is a better sign of sincere fan interest in the artist. With the single, the consumer may be more interested in just that one song than the artist. In a sense, the song is more popular than the artist.

Singles will never drive the industry because they don't generate much revenue and are not a sign of fan devotion. The person who passes on the album but buys one or two singles for 99 cents, is not going to pay to see that artist in concert.
 
I wouldn't call it recycled, but it lacks something Beautiful Day and many others have. Can't exactly define it, but there is something missing in it. Still like the song though but I can see why it doesn't catch fire on the radio.

At this stage I like Magnificent better than both BD and Vertigo.
It is truly a U2 classic.
 
To me, magnificent is simply one of the best u2 songs ever, better than BD and Vertigo for example, and I don't give a f**** about the masses-listening-shit-nowadays-radio, liking the song or not.
 
What a rubbish statement to make!

Bomb has sold 1.2 million in 5 years! NLOTH has been out 10 weeks! I do not have the exact figures in front of me but at a guess Bomb sold about 500,000 after 10 weeks here in UK and these where also the 10 weeks leading upto Xmas which at a guess would put about 75,000 - 100,000 extra on it and also we are in a major resession so that would count for about 25,000 copies. So realistically NLOTH is about 75,000 down from Bomb at the same time which in my opinion would be done to the sheer strength of Vertigo as a lead single as it appealed to the masses where as Boots did not! And do you also have the figures that say 300,000 is the total sold so far as i was under the impression it was 350,000.

and too be honest who gives a F*** if it sells more or less than Bomb? Do people on here only think a new U2 album is any good just cus it sells loads? or a new U2 album is crap cus it does not sell as many as the last one? come on please!

I just ask people to decide on there own whether they like the album or not and not base there decision on how many it sells to the general public. I actually love the new album but based on this forum i should hate it because it has not sold as many as the last 2 albums!

This is the problem with U2 fans they only care how many copies they sell and not if the album is actually any good or not!

So WHY r u posting in PEELING OFF THOSE DOLLAR BILLS? seems hypocritic...just sayin.
 
it's always fun to see people coming to "Pealing Off Those..." subforum and bitching about people caring and discussing sales and charts :)
 
One is the 153rd biggest selling song in the US last week it sold 9,000 copies. One is outselling Magnificent everywhere
 
NLOTH is an "underground" album? Hold on a second, lets take a look at what the masses have actually been buying in 2009 to date:

Biggest selling albums through WEEK 19 of 2009 in the United States:

Rank - Sales - TITLE - Artist
01 - 1,077,364 - FEARLESS - Taylor Swift
02 - 882,296 - NO LINE ON THE HORIZON - U2
03 - 826,012 - HANNAH MONTANA: THE MOVIE - Soundtrack
04 - 816,726 - TWILIGHT - Soundtrack
05 - 745,044 - DARK HORSE - Nickelback
06 - 696,829 - I AM…SASHA FIERCE - Beyonce
07 - 665,736 - THE FAME - Lady GaGa
08 - 636,887 - UNSTOPPABLE - Rascal Flatts
09 - 550,236 - ALL I EVER WANTED - Kelly Clarkson
10 - 535,454 - INTUITION - Jamie Foxx
11 - 529,277 - WORKING ON A DREAM - Bruce Springsteen
12 - 525,001 - THE FRAY - The Fray
13 - 493,179 - 808S AND HEARTBREAK - Kanye West
14 - 475,937 - NOW 30 - Various
15 - 429,523 - CIRCUS - Britney Spears
16 - 414,990 - A DIFFERENT ME - Keyshia Cole
17 - 401,196 - PAPER TRAIL - T.I.
18 - 369,317 - FUNHOUSE - Pink
19 - 361,869 - ONLY BY THE NIGHT - Kings Of Leon
20 - 358,988 - LOVE VS MONEY - The-Dream
21 - 356,245 - WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THINGS - Jason Mraz
22 - 344,271 - NOW 29 - Various
23 - 334,653 - DEFYING GRAVITY - Keith Urban
24 - 316,144 - LOTUS FLOW3R - Prince
25 - 314,701 - FREEDOM - Akon
26 - 314,266 - DAVID COOK - David Cook
27 - 310,006 - VIVA LA VIDA OR DEATH AND ALL HIS FRIENDS - Coldplay
28 - 299,230 - 19 - Adele
29 - 298,446 - THE FOUNDATION - Zac Brown Band
30 - 294,211 - SLUMDOG MILLIONAIRE - Soundtrack
31 - 278,255 - LOVE ON THE INSIDE - Sugarland
32 - 278,004 - TAYLOR SWIFT - Taylor Swift
33 - 272,474 - LEARN TO LIVE - Darius Rucker
34 - 269,219 - THA CARTER III - Lil' Wayne
35 - 268,395 - YEAR OF THE GENTLEMAN - Ne-Yo
36 - 265,594 - MAMMA MIA - Soundtrack
37 - 262,546 - ROCK N ROLL JESUS - Kid Rock
38 - 258,728 - IN A PERFECT WORLD - Keri Hilson
39 - 255,312 - CARNIVAL RIDE - Carrie Underwood
40 - 249,900 - ONE OF THE BOYS - Katy Perry
41 - 246,127 - THE LAST KISS - Jadakiss
42 - 243,980 - DEEPER THAN RAP - Rick Ross
43 - 242,389 - QUIET NIGHTS - Diana Krall
44 - 236,900 - GOOD GIRL GONE BAD - Rihanna
45 - 233,056 - WHEN THE WORLD COMES DOWN - All-American Rejects
46 - 231,400 - RAISING SAND - Robert Plant & Alison Krauss
47 - 226,479 - TESTIMONY:VOL 2-LOVE AND POLITICS - India.Arie
48 - 220,735 - WIDE OPEN - Jason Aldean
49 - 212,039 - SCARS AND SOUVENIRS - Theory Of A Deadman
50 - 208,034 - SWAN SONGS - Hollywood Undead
51 - 200,398 - THAT LONESOME SONG - Jamey Johnson
52 - 199,914 - SOUL - Seal
53 - 198,700 - 2009 GRAMMY NOMINEES - Various
54 - 192,108 - DEATH MAGNETIC - Metallica
55 - 189,437 - IT'S NOT ME IT'S YOU - Lily Allen
56 - 185,411 - THE POINT OF IT ALL - Anthony Hamilton
57 - 184,678 - FEEL THAT FIRE - Dierks Bentley
58 - 184,157 - HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL 3: SENIOR YEAR - Soundtrack
59 - 183,391 - FOREVER IN THE DAY - Day26
60 - 183,389 - DAY AND AGE - Killers
61 - 182,900 - THEATER OF THE MIND - Ludacris
62 - 180,645 - GREATEST HITS VOLUME 1 - Rascal Flatts
63 - 180,255 - LADY ANTEBELLUM - Lady Antebellum
64 - 179,498 - JENNIFER HUDSON - Jennifer Hudson
65 - 176,613 - TOGETHER THROUGH LIFE - Bob Dylan
66 - 173,700 - UNCLE CHARLIE - Charlie Wilson
67 - 172,499 - KIDZ BOP 15 - Kidz Bop Kids
68 - 170,100 - DA REALIST - Plies
69 - 167,550 - THE SOUND OF MADNESS - Shinedown
70 - 164,312 - INCREDIBAD - Lonely Island
71 - 163,900 - GOLD-GREATEST HITS - Abba
72 - 156,523 - BLACK ICE - AC/DC
73 - 156,068 - EVOLVER - John Legend
74 - 155,358 - SPIRIT - Leona Lewis
75 - 154,701 - ISOULJABOYTELLEM - Soulja Boy Tell'em
76 - 154,000 - FOLIE A DEUX - Fall Out Boy
77 - 149,345 - R.O.O.T.S. (ROUTE OF OVERCOMING THE STRUGGLE) - Flo Rida
78 - 146,400 - GREATEST HITS - Guns N'Roses
79 - 145,448 - WRATH - Lamb Of God
80 - 143,691 - UGK FOR LIFE - UGK
81 - 143,573 - ONMYRADIO - Musiq Soulchild
82 - 142,700 - GREATEST HITS - Journey
83 - 141,293 - FEARLESS - Jazmine Sullivan
84 - 141,000 - THE REBIRTH - Bobby V
85 - 140,133 - THE PROMISE - Il Divo
86 - 138,207 - GOOD TIME - Alan Jackson
87 - 137,800 - NOTORIOUS - Soundtrack
88 - 137,050 - LEGEND - Bob Marley & the Wailers
89 - 134,183 - ORACULAR SPECTACULAR - MGMT
90 - 133,750 - TEN - Pearl Jam
91 - 133,500 - 3D CONCERT EXPERIENCE - Jonas Brothers
92 - 132,883 - DAVID ARCHULETA - David Archuleta
93 - 132,704 - THE RECESSION - Young Jeezy
94 - 128,152 - ALL HOPE IS GONE - Slipknot
95 - 127,625 - SAVING ABEL - Saving Abel
96 - 126,731 - TAKE IT TO THE LIMIT - Hinder
97 - 125,952 - LUCKY OLD SUN - Kenny Chesney
98 - 125,354 - ROCKFERRY - Duffy
99 - 123,900 - THR33 RINGZ - T-Pain
100 - 123,487 - INDESTRUCTIBLE - Disturbed


How can an "underground" album be the 2nd most popular album of the year?

to clarify "underground" as compared to other mainstream u2 albums and not to other artists, ie not as big as say a jt, ab, etc bc i think we all thought it would be at that initial level, but it's still early, I think it will be comparable to htdaab at the end of its run
 
Singles only cost 99 cents to download and don't generate much revenue for the artist. 100,000 albums sold is equal or better than 1 million singles sold in terms of the money generated for the artist. It also is a better sign of sincere fan interest in the artist. With the single, the consumer may be more interested in just that one song than the artist. In a sense, the song is more popular than the artist.

Singles will never drive the industry because they don't generate much revenue and are not a sign of fan devotion. The person who passes on the album but buys one or two singles for 99 cents, is not going to pay to see that artist in concert.

good points and i think this is exactly what the music industry is worried about and imo singles are pushed too much, should be bait to an album, but I don't think it's happening as much as it used too, probably a reflection on our culture with a short-attention span
 
One is the 153rd biggest selling song in the US last week it sold 9,000 copies. One is outselling Magnificent everywhere

I know I will get hated for saying it, but if U2 were to get on American Idol tonight on the finale and sing Magnificent, that's all it would take to get on top 100 downloads.
 
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