U2 360 Boxscore Discussion Part II

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alexvox said:
64,000 in Pittsburgh, according to this article: U2 dazzles in Pittsburgh during last U.S. stop on bar-raising 360 Tour | cleveland.com

I think that the figure will be less than 60,000, given the numerous empty seats...

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Those sections that are sparsly populated on top were completely empty for Taylor Swift as well as the lower level sections just below, based on video I have seen.

This is Taylor Swifts Boxscore results for Pittsburgh:

Taylor Swift, Needtobreathe, Randy Montana, Danny Gokey
Heinz Field
Pittsburgh, Pa.
June 18, 2011
$4,009,118
52,009 /
52,009
1 /
1
$94.50, $64.50, $44.50


Check this video out. Click pause at the 9 second mark and you can see the same sections and sections below completely empty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xvu-OKFOq8

So U2 probably did over 52,000 in Pittsburgh. Several thousand more at least based on what were seeing in the pictures and video. But, looks can be decieving so we'll see.
 
Updating the North American list:


Here is the list that is a few years old with a few updates. I'm not sure if more recent tours by Celine Dion, Eagles, Metallica, Lady Gaga and Kenny Chesney would make the list. The list was current as of 2006, and I have added The Police reunion tour, Madonna Sticky And Sweet Tour, U2 360 results, two Bon Jovi Tours, AC/DC Black Ice Tour and one Bruce Springsteen Tour:

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Here are the 15 largest Grossing tours ever North America. This list is based on the entire tour, and does not cut off the figures because parts of tours fall in different years. I combined the Billy Joel/Elton John tours of 2001, 2002, and 2003 into one tour because I was uncertain if they were seperate individual tours or simply one long one.



1. The Rolling Stones "A Bigger Bang Tour" 2005-2006 $300,628,363

2. U2 "360 Tour" 2009-2011 $ 262,918,450

3. The Rolling Stones "Bridges To Babylon/No Security Tour" $185 million 1997-1999

4. The Police "Reunion Tour 2007-2008" $179,736,151

5. Billy Joel/Elton John $173.6 million 2001/2002/2003

6. Eagles "Hell Freezes Over Tour" $162.7 million 1994-1996

7. Bruce Springsteen "The Rising Tour" $158.4 million 2002-2003

8. U2 "Vertigo Tour" $158,111,235 2005-2006

9. Cher " Farewell Tour" $141.8 million 2002-2003

10. The Rolling Stones "Licks Tour" $126.4 million 2002-2003

11. The Rolling Stones "Voodoo Lounge Tour" $121.2 million 1994

12. N'Sync "Celebrity Tour" $120 million 2001-2002

13 AC/DC "Black Ice Tour" $120 million 2008-2010

14. Bon Jovi "Lost Highway Tour" $111.8 million 2007-2008

15. U2 "Elevation" $109.7 million 2001

16. Bon Jovi "The Circle Tour" $108 million 2010

17. Bruce Springsteen "Magic Tour" $107.6 million 2007-2008

18. Bruce Springsteen $107.3 million 1999-2000

19. Madonna "Sticky and Sweet Tour" $105.8 million 2008

20. Eagles $104.7 million 2002-2003

21. Pink Floyd "Division Bell Tour" $103.5 million 1994

22. Paul McCartney $103.3 million 2002
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Maoilbheannacht said:
Definitely, especially in this case. Your forgetting that the majority of the tickets sold for North American 2011 leg, were sold to U2 fans BEFORE the end of 2009! The shows are only occuring in 2011 because of Bono's injury. Otherwise they would have occured in 2010.

Yes, there was a 7 month gap between legs, but there was a 4 month gap between the first leg of the Joshua Tree North American tour and the 2nd leg of the Joshua Tree North American tour. Are you going to claim that the first leg of the Joshua Tree North American tour is not the same TOUR because it ended 4 months before the second leg?

 This is not the first tour that has lasted two years in length. ZOO TV almost lasted that long.....
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you're correct about the observation that the tix for the 2011 leg were sold back in 2009....anyway, when I wrote about the big 7-month break between october 2009 and june 2010, I was meaning that in those 7 months there wasn't a single show played!!! this was really a first for u2 and is a bit weird. I think this was due to Bono and Edge needing to work on Spiderman (in early 2009, when the 360 tour was announced, the musical was scheduled to open in late 2009-early 2010) and Adam becoming a dad for the first time (early 2010).

by the way: in the 25 months between the start and the end of the 360tour, u2 actually spent more time off the road than on the road. in reality, they spent only 4 months on the road in 2009, 3 in 2010 (2 in europe + 4 weeks in the pacific) and roughly 4 months in 2011 (2 and a half in north am, 3 weeks in south am and a "long weekend" in south africa).
that's highly unusual. has a major worldwide tour by anyone ever been planned that way?
 
superglen said:
by the way: in the 25 months between the start and the end of the 360tour, u2 actually spent more time off the road than on the road. in reality, they spent only 4 months on the road in 2009, 3 in 2010 (2 in europe + 4 weeks in the pacific) and roughly 4 months in 2011 (2 and a half in north am, 3 weeks in south am and a "long weekend" in south africa).
that's highly unusual. has a major worldwide tour by anyone ever been planned that way?
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Wow, you never stop your search do you? Again, Bono's INJURY is part of the reason why the tour had to be extended over a longer period.

U2 had a 6 month gap with no shows on ZOO TV! November of 1992 TO May 1993.

Finally, your forgetting that the tour started in mid 2009 and ended in mid 2011. So for you to be looking at the entire calandar year for those years is decieving and inaccurate.

Length of time on the road is not very different on this tour from start to finish when compared with ZOO TV or A Bigger Bang by the Stones. There are less shows because the band played only stadiums in 360, thats the only difference.
 
It seems like Billboard has learned the final tallies for U2360:

U2 Set to Wrap Biggest Concert Tour Ever | Billboard.com

When the final numbers are tallied, U2 360 will record a gross of $736,137,344 and total attendance of 7,268,430, Billboard.com has learned, both the highest tour tallies ever reported to Billboard.
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FYI, that's an average ticket of $101.28. So that doesn't mean they're not selling any more tickets for tomorrow's Moncton show? And when adding my predictions for the final three shows to the current total, it comes out as 7.3 million tickets sold, so we shall see the individual results in August. I wonder if these are indeed the final results.

Here's an interesting quote about the refunds made during the postponement of the second North American leg last year:

Rejiggering the tour midstream was "challenging," says Fogel. But the team moved quickly from the initial shock to rebuilding the North American leg for a year later, and did that so expertly that they not only were able to put most fans in the exact seat they would have been had the tour gone off as planned, but also found seven more shows, including the band's first Nashville stop in 30 years.

"It was difficult at the time, but the most amazing thing through it all was the refund rate across all the shows was only about 9%, which is ridiculous," says Fogel. "And we resold all those tickets."
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They don't have any information on Moncton yet, so I guess they just added the 360 average to get to that final number.
 
spookyz said:
They don't have any information on Moncton yet, so I guess they just added the 360 average to get to that final number.
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Has to be what they did. I would think we will see 30k & maybe 3 million more in gross. I hope they did more than 55k in Pitt but even 55 is a very strong number for that market
 
CosmoKramer said:
Has to be what they did. I would think we will see 30k & maybe 3 million more in gross. I hope they did more than 55k in Pitt but even 55 is a very strong number for that market
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I think Pittsburgh will bring in more than 55,000 - I think many tickets on the upper tier at Heinz Field were not sold due to restricted visibility. I could see the results somewhere in the 57,000-65,000 range.

I think they don't have the final results for Moncton, but it should be somewhere above 85,000 - the Rolling Stones brought in 89,260 in 2005 (currently the largest concert in Atlantic Canada) so I hope they make it to at least 90,000 but there seems to have been doubt. Anyone know how the show is selling?
 
alexvox said:
According to Radio Canada: 75K tickets sold and 5K tickets still available.

Spectacle : Moncton attend U2 avec fbrilit | Atlantique | Radio-Canada.ca (video "Ricky Landry explique comment Moncton a pu attirer U2 pour terminer sa tournée 360", in french)
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I wish they were doing 110,000. The location is not ideal, but the Stones did get 89,000. The Stones show was very early in the tour, while this is the last show, and also the last announced show. So perhaps that might explain a lower attendance figure.
 
September 3, 2005
Moncton, NB, Canada
Magnetic Hill
GROSS: $7,223,197
ATTENDANCE: 89,260
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $80.92


This was show number 6 on the Rolling Stones 143 date A Bigger Bang Tour that lasted until the end of August 2007.
 
It's been some ride and the fact it had rained all day and was moist underfoot here in Moncton was not going to stop anyone in this 75,000-strong audience making this a night to remember
(U2.com)
 
Maoilbheannacht said:
Wow, you never stop your search do you? Again, Bono's INJURY is part of the reason why the tour had to be extended over a longer period.

U2 had a 6 month gap with no shows on ZOO TV! November of 1992 TO May 1993.

Finally, your forgetting that the tour started in mid 2009 and ended in mid 2011. So for you to be looking at the entire calandar year for those years is decieving and inaccurate.

Length of time on the road is not very different on this tour from start to finish when compared with ZOO TV or A Bigger Bang by the Stones. There are less shows because the band played only stadiums in 360, thats the only difference.
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????

fact: during the 360tour the band spent more time off the road than on the road, while on zooTv it was the opposite.

360tour: total duration: 25 months
the band stayed on the road 4 months in 2009 (june 30-oct 28), 3 months in 2010 (august 6-oct 8 and nov 25-dec 19), and roughly 4 months in 2011 (feb 13-18, mar 25-apr 13 and may 11-july 30). that makes a total of 11 "real" months on the road, during which they played 110 shows plus glasto, against 14 months with no shows.

zooTV: total duration: 22 months
in 1992 they spent less than 8 months on the road (feb 29-june 19 and aug 7-nov 25) during which they played 104 shows (nearly as much as the whole 360 tour), and in 1993 they played an additonial 53 shows over 5 months (may 9-aug 29 and nov 12-dec 10). that makes a total of 157 shows over 13 "real" months on the road, against 9 months with no shows.

the break on zooTV wasn't six months long, but only a little more than 5 months (nov 26 1992-may 8 1993), while the break on 360 was supposed to be more that 7 months. hadn't Bono suffered his injury, the tour would have ended on 13 april 2011 in SaoPaolo (per Willie Williams), after a duration of 22 months.
 
superglen said:
????

fact: during the 360tour the band spent more time off the road than on the road, while on zooTv it was the opposite.

360tour: total duration: 25 months
the band stayed on the road 4 months in 2009 (june 30-oct 28), 3 months in 2010 (august 6-oct 8 and nov 25-dec 19), and roughly 4 months in 2011 (feb 13-18, mar 25-apr 13 and may 11-july 30). that makes a total of 11 "real" months on the road, during which they played 110 shows plus glasto, against 14 months with no shows.

zooTV: total duration: 22 months
in 1992 they spent less than 8 months on the road (feb 29-june 19 and aug 7-nov 25) during which they played 104 shows (nearly as much as the whole 360 tour), and in 1993 they played an additonial 53 shows over 5 months (may 9-aug 29 and nov 12-dec 10). that makes a total of 157 shows over 13 "real" months on the road, against 9 months with no shows.

the break on zooTV wasn't six months long, but only a little more than 5 months (nov 26 1992-may 8 1993), while the break on 360 was supposed to be more that 7 months. hadn't Bono suffered his injury, the tour would have ended on 13 april 2011 in SaoPaolo (per Willie Williams), after a duration of 22 months.
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All due to a stage that takes at first 10 days to build up and tear down and 8 days further on...logistics! Zoo t.v.'s logistics were most likely easier and an easier process overall.
 
robbrecon72 said:
All due to a stage that takes at first 10 days to build up and tear down and 8 days further on...logistics! Zoo t.v.'s logistics were most likely easier and an easier process overall.
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nope!

in 2009 they played 44 shows over 4 months, a pace roughly similar to Outside Broadcast and Zooropa (where they played, respectively, 47 and 43 shows in nearly 4 months).

it was a precise choice of theirs to schedule the 360tour in this "relaxed" and weird way.

for instance: the major 7-month-plus break scheduled between late october 2009 and early june 2010 was due, in all probability, to B+E needing time to work on Spidey (originally scheduled to open in spring 2010) and to Adam about to become a father, in early 2010, for the first time.
 
superglen said:
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Hey, if there is anyone here that deserves a question mark, its you and your post. There is an overall ringing theme to them.



fact: during the 360tour the band spent more time off the road than on the road, while on zooTv it was the opposite.
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So? No one here said they spent more actual time on the road than they did on ZOO TV.

360: 11 "real" months on the road
ZOO TV: 13 "real" months on the road

360: 14 months with no shows
ZOO TV: 9 months with no shows

360: major injury to Bono's back - PLUS more demanding family needs for the rest of the band.

ZOO TV: no injuries - less demanding family needs.
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I mean really, SO WHAT? Yes, they had some more time off the road on 360, but its not much more, especially when you subtract the time for Bono's injury. Certainly NOTHING worth posting about.


the break on zooTV wasn't six months long, but only a little more than 5 months (nov 26 1992-may 8 1993), while the break on 360 was supposed to be more that 7 months. hadn't Bono suffered his injury, the tour would have ended on 13 april 2011 in SaoPaolo (per Willie Williams), after a duration of 22 months.
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This is probably your most absurd post. Ok so it was 5 and a half months and not 6 months exactly! IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING!

I mean really, your going to suggest that 5 months and 14 days with no shows is significantly different from 7 months and 6 days with no shows?!?!?

I'm sorry, but even your more exact dates for each tour only show that 360 is NOT UNUSUAL in the manner you originally described compared with ZOO TV and especially when compared to the Rolling Stones A Bigger Bang Tour.

nope!

in 2009 they played 44 shows over 4 months, a pace roughly similar to Outside Broadcast and Zooropa (where they played, respectively, 47 and 43 shows in nearly 4 months).

it was a precise choice of theirs to schedule the 360tour in this "relaxed" and weird way.
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Well, since you were not apart of either tour, you wouldn't know which was the more logistically demanding. Common sense though would tell you its 360.


for instance: the major 7-month-plus break scheduled between late october 2009 and early june 2010 was due, in all probability, to B+E needing time to work on Spidey (originally scheduled to open in spring 2010) and to Adam about to become a father, in early 2010, for the first time.
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Amazing, 7 months and 6 days is a MAJOR break, but 5 months and 14 days is nothing worth mentioning! LOL

The Fact is, this tour is the most successful in history by any measure. There is nothing unusual about it that one can use against it to try and deflate its success. Just as the Rolling Stones did not oversaturate the market in the 1990s while U2 did not under play the market in the 1990s. Sorry, but U2 wins on all accounts, hands down! :wink:
 
superglen said:
nope!

in 2009 they played 44 shows over 4 months, a pace roughly similar to Outside Broadcast and Zooropa (where they played, respectively, 47 and 43 shows in nearly 4 months).

it was a precise choice of theirs to schedule the 360tour in this "relaxed" and weird way.

for instance: the major 7-month-plus break scheduled between late october 2009 and early june 2010 was due, in all probability, to B+E needing time to work on Spidey (originally scheduled to open in spring 2010) and to Adam about to become a father, in early 2010, for the first time.
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Just because they were able to play 44 shows in 2009 doesnt mean that logistics would allow the rest of the 360 tour to work out the same way.

Also...

I think it's better the way the 360 tour ended up working out schedule wise is due mostly to the fact it wasn't as much strain on Bono's voice. He clearly sounded better on this tour than the elevation tour and in most cases the vertigo tour.

If Bono's voice would hold they could have saturated the market a lot more by supplementing the tour with arenas plus a few additional stadiums (especially in the asia/middle east market) easily grossing over $800 million.
 
Willie Williams had said that the May 14th show had a crowd of 108,800 (which he seems to be correct according to the press release) and the May 15th show had 106,658 fans. He couldn't get figures for the May 11th show, but it looks like that show had a crowd of 67,520 - when subtracting the assumed attendance figures for May 14 & 15 from the Billboard total of 282,978.

There are a few hiccups in that press release - 7.1 million fans is pretty much how much people the band entertained from Barcelona to East Rutherford, the last three shows are yet to be reported to Billboard Boxscore.

The Mexico City shows attracted 282,978 fans. They were expecting at least 30,000 more fans (hence the 320,000 figure) but maybe the demand had been reached (67,520 is really low compared to the attendances of 108,800 and 106,658 in the same stadium days later!). Even with the extravagant ticket prices, the average ticket price ended up being in the $80-$85 range.
 
Bon Jovi ruled the charts, but boxscores for Minneapolis & Pittsburgh were reported.

3
U2, Interpol
TCF Bank Stadium
Minneapolis, Minn.
July 23, 2011
$5,163,440
59,843 /
59,843
1 /
1
$250, $30

4
U2, Interpol
Heinz Field
Pittsburgh, Pa.
July 26, 2011
$5,050,730
55,823 /
55,823
1 /
1
$250, $30

prbiker15 said:
My Predictions for the remaining U2360 shows:

TCF Bank Stadium - Minneapolis - 58,000 - $5,100,000
Heinz Field - Pittsburgh - 63,000 - $5,800,000
Magnetic Hill Concert Site - Moncton - 94,000 - $9,000,000
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Minneapolis was pretty much spot on. :wink: Pittsburgh...meh, great showing though.
 
Interesting boxscore here by Bon Jovi this week...

#12
Bon Jovi
Zagreb Croatia
June 8, 2011
Stadion Maksimir
Gross-$2,245,935
Attendance-33,698
1/1


U2 blew that away.

Zagreb Croatia
Aug 9,10 2009
Stadion Maksimir
Gross-$12,700,784
Attendance-124,012
2/2
 
robbrecon72 said:
Interesting boxscore here by Bon Jovi this week...

#12
Bon Jovi
Zagreb Croatia
June 8, 2011
Stadion Maksimir
Gross-$2,245,935
Attendance-33,698
1/1


U2 blew that away.

Zagreb Croatia
Aug 9,10 2009
Stadion Maksimir
Gross-$12,700,784
Attendance-124,012
2/2
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Robbrecon72 is it possible for you to post the boxscore of Bon Jovi's concert in Athens? Thank you in advance
 
ajax said:
Robbrecon72 is it possible for you to post the boxscore of Bon Jovi's concert in Athens? Thank you in advance
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They only reported the Bon Jovi shows that took place in June. Athens was in July, so I guess we'll see that soon.
 
U2 360 Tour Total Stats to Date
Total Gross-$730,293,631
Attendance-7,205,223
Average Gross-$6,699,942
Average Attendance-66,103
Average Ticket Price-$101.36
Shows-109
Sellouts-109

Europe leg 2009
Total Gross- $188,344,444
Attendance- 1,759,222
Average Gross-$7,847,685
Average Attendance-73,300
Average Ticket Price-$107
Shows-24
Sellouts-24


North American leg 2009
Total Gross-$123,293,286
Attendance-1,312,068
Average Gross-$6,164,664
Average Attendance-65,603
Average Ticket Price-$93.96
Shows-20
Sellouts-20

Europe leg 2010
Total Gross-$131,502,367
Attendance-1,312,784
Average Gross-$5,977,380
Average Attendance-59,672
Average Ticket Price-$100.17
Shows-22
Sellouts-22

Australia leg 2010
Total Gross-$60,918,582
Attendance-500,437
Average Gross-$6,091,858
Average Attendance-50,043
Average Ticket Price-$121.73
Shows-10
Sellouts-10

Africa leg 2011
Total Gross-$15,540,805
Attendance-166,764
Average Gross-$7,770,402
Average Attendance-83,382
Average Ticket Price-$93.19
Shows-2
Sellouts-2
​
South America leg 2011
Total Gross-$60,854,813
Attendance-519,285
Average Gross-$8,693,544
Average Attendance-74,183
Average Ticket Price-$117.18
Shows-7
Sellouts-7

North American leg 2011 (In Progress)
Total Gross-$149,839,334
Attendance-1,634,663
Average Gross-$6,243,306
Average Attendance-68,111
Average Ticket Price-$91.66
Shows-24
Sellouts-24

Billboard 2011 top tour (In Progress)-$287,152,534

If 75,000 is correct for Moncton U2 might still hold the number 2 spot for the biggest grossing tour during a single year in North America, but it will be very close!
 
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