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Old 08-19-2009, 11:35 AM   #121
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Billboard is now redirecting trafic from Billboardmagazine which was the old site to the new site. So, it looks like were back to depending on someone with access to Billboardbiz or waiting for the magazine to hit the news stand in order to see individual venue boxscore results.
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Again, the number of tickets that are released for sell is dependent on many different factors. If an artist is touring with a stage that is not open to the back, the promoter will not release tickets for sell that are behind the stage. They also may not release tickets on the side of the stage until they day of the show to be certain the seats are not obstructed view. Lighting, mixing desk, and other things apart of the concert set up can block some seats and it may not be known until the venue is set up for the show whether certain seats can be used. So those seats are not released for sell.

This of course allows the promoter to simply release a smaller block of tickets that they think the artist can sell by showtime. Sometimes the artist does sell the tickets, sometimes they don't. Nearly half of Bruce Springsteens shows this year have not soldout. At the May 2001 Elevation show in Pittsburgh PA, the 2nd level behind the stage area was empty. This was a $45 dollar ticket section. Just before the concert you could not buy tickets in this area, although you would have had a clear view of everything. In fact, no tickets were available.The promoter chose not to release these tickets for sell. The concert was recorded as a sellout.
But venue officials regularly report to the media attendance numbers bigger than what's reported by Billboard - meaning the tickets that Billboard reports as having been sold were not the only tickets available, since they were not the only tickets sold. What goes in the boxscore charts is only the number of tickets the promoter expected to sell, and how many out of those they did sell. If more tickets than that are sold, it doesn't go into the report. Like I said, with U2 this isn't as obvious because their numbers as reported to Billboard are very close to the real number of tickets available, since Live Nation expects them to fill the venue - but take, for example, Madonna's performance in Udine, Italy last month. Per Billboard's numbers, 28,000 tickets were sold. However, those who were at the 42,000-capacity stadium claimed the stadium looked completely full - and Italian newspapers widely reported an attendance of 40,000 people as reported by venue officials, with one newspaper saying a few hours before showtime that about 2,000 out of the 42,000 tickets available had not been sold. So the numbers as published by Billboard don't actually reflect the number of tickets up for sale by the time the show began or ended, just how many were expected to sell - it's not at all uncommon for tickets to a show to be available at the venue box office after the show has started, only for that show to be reported as a sold-out event later.
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:37 PM   #123
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I'll let you guys know today when I see the boxscores off of billboard.biz
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:57 PM   #124
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London,zagreb,chorzow!

I got em! they just came up a bit ago! the number on the side is their rankings, there were several successful events put out this week.

#2 London-$20,680,860 164,244 2/2

#4 Zagreb-$12,700,784 124,012 2/2

#9 Chorzow-$6,414,960 75,180 1/1
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What do the prices mean?

They seem kind of strange for these two shows.

Zagreb $350.51, $43.76

Chorzow $388.36, $44.88
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i believe that is their high end ticket and their low end ticket prices
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That's what I thought but it seems really high for these two shows. Isn't the high end around $250?
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perhaps it's the highest bid on the red zone tickets
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Converted to U.S. dollars for U.S. based magazine. Higher high-end ticket prices, and higher low-end ticket prices when viewed as converted dollar values.
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here is what i came up with for the totals

Total number of shows-21
Number of sellouts-21
Total gross-$170,864,869
Average gross per show-$8,136,422
Average ticket price-$107.3
Total Attendance-1,591,812
Average Attendance-75,801
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Converted to U.S. dollars for U.S. based magazine. Higher high-end ticket prices, and higher low-end ticket prices when viewed as converted dollar values.
Sorry, but in most countries the higher end tickets were 165 Euro, which translates to about $250 (maybe a little less). In all of the other boxscores the higher end price was at that level. I guess that means that Chorzow and Zagreb were stuck with the highest prices of the entire tour.
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Any guesses as to the first show not listed as soldout in billboard?

I'm going to guess Charlottesville.
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Sorry, but in most countries the higher end tickets were 165 Euro, which translates to about $250 (maybe a little less). In all of the other boxscores the higher end price was at that level. I guess that means that Chorzow and Zagreb were stuck with the highest prices of the entire tour.
...sad, but true. we don't have Euro yet, and back in March/April, when tickets went on sale, the value of our money was much lower than it is now,
(1 PLN = 4,1 EUR now; 1 PLN = 4,6/4,7 EUR back then) so we had to pay more.
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Any guesses as to the first show not listed as soldout in billboard?

I'm going to guess Charlottesville.
Might have been Glasgow.
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That's what I thought but it seems really high for these two shows. Isn't the high end around $250?
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Chorzow $388.36, $44.88
no, not redzone, $388 was for "seats", 2 sectors right in front of the stage had that price.
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