U2 360 Boxscore Discussion

[Maoilbheannacht]

How many do you think got their money back with the date switch? Anyone who bought extra tickets could get their money back rather than taking a small loss.

Would the "walk-up" be higher than the "walk-away"?

Who knows? This is the movement of a show on a weekend night to the middle of the work week, and were talking around 80,000 people. Walk up's are reduced by the fact that both shows were already essentially soldout for weeks or months.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

, that does not count for his other two tours.

Well, no one was discussing his other two tours.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

I think Grand Funk Railroad claims to have broken the shea record in 72ish.

I believe they broke the record in the sense that it only took them three days to sellout Shea Stadium compared to the Beatles who took 14 days to sellout Shea Stadium, not that the attendance was any higher.

Do you think DC or LA are the only realistic options for U2 to set a US attendance record?

U2 are already setting multiple attendance records all over North America. They have the Soldier Field record in attendance/gross, Gillette Stadium in attendance gross, and probably have the single night Chicago record and do have the single night Boston or Massachusetts record. They have the single night record for the New York City area.

Other attendance records to be broken, or likely broken are, Washington DC area/state of Maryland, state of Virginia, state of North Carolina, state of Florida, state of Texas, state of Oklahoma, state of Nevada, state of California.

In order to break the Who's September 25, 1982 US attendance record of 91,451 at JFK Stadium in Philadelphia, the only shows I think have the potential to break that are Washington DC and Los Angeles.

DC is rather uncertain, but LA appears to be an essential certainty given that ticket holders have already been e-mailed and told that over 96,000 people are going to be in attendance at the show and are warning people to car-pool, use public transportation, and come early.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

You say the U2s 1987-1990 is generally one tour, but when Foo Fighters do a "victory lap" show in London soon after previous tours it's a "one-off" that doesn't count.

Nope, the issue is SHOWS in the UK/Ireland. U2 360 had Stadium shows in Cardiff, Glasgow, Sheffield, and 3 shows in Dublin the same month that they played their two 360 shows at Wembley in London.

The Foo Fighters did not do any shows other shows in the UK/Ireland at the time they did their two London shows.

Thats the difference and why the two are not comparable.

That said, London is the toughest market for u2 to break records beyond having 88k for show in a stadium. What the single act record for Knebworth?

Likely because unlike most of these other artist you mention, U2 actually do a full tour of the British Isles playing stadiums in multiple different cities and meeting all the demand in those markets.

All the other artist you mention do not play anywhere else BUT London or if they do play outside London, they underplay whatever market they are playing.

-Bruce sold 72k at Soldier Field and U2 were likely a couple thousand away from that on either night.

Bruce played to 71,222. No one knows what the individual results for each night that U2 played there. Already went over that.

-Croke Vertigo was slighly more than Croke 360

Yep, I think everyone knows that, although it should be mentioned that the gross for Dublin 360 is over 30% higher than Vertigo and the 4th largest combined gross total ever at one venue.

Madonna grossing $12m at Wembley and U2 did $10 per show. I think Spice Girls did 11m at O2.

At the time, I think Madonna only had one other show in the UK/Ireland which increases the demand on the London performance. The Spice Girls certainly did not gross 11 million from a single show at the 02.

-DC 360 may or may not have beaten the WHO record from 1982.

If not, LA will.

-LA 360 more than DC 360?

Hopefully will know tomorrow.

-Giants 360 is not the single show gross record.

No one claimed that it was.

-FF 2 New Wembley shows may have been attended by more than 2 new Wembley shows on 360.

Its possible, but unlike FF, U2 played 1 stadium show in Cardiff, 1 stadium show in Sheffield, 1 stadium show in Glasgow, and 3 stadium shows in Dublin in the same month.

 

[hedge]

Foo Fighters played Manchester Stadium 3 days before the 2 Wembley Stadium shows.

 

[believer75]

Not yet. It might be released Wendsday afternoon or evening.

Thank you

 

[U2FloridaFan]

That Rose Bowl show will be AMAZING with almost 100K people!! That will be the largest attendance of a single show on the tour, correct?

 

[Vox02]

That Rose Bowl show will be AMAZING with almost 100K people!! That will be the largest attendance of a single show on the tour, correct?

Yes

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

That Rose Bowl show will be AMAZING with almost 100K people!! That will be the largest attendance of a single show on the tour, correct?

Correct.

 

[robbrecon72]

New Boxscores!

u2 1,2,3,4 top boxscore positions this week

FedEx Field
$6,718,315
84,754/84,754
1/1

Georgia Dome
$5,746,430
61,419/61,419
1/1

Carter-Finely Stadium
$4,962,240
55,027/55,027
1/1

Scott Stadium
$4,738,695
52,433/52,433
1/1

 

[genesis199125]

u2 1,2,3,4 top boxscore positions this week

FedEx Field
$6,718,315
84,754/84,754
1/1

Georgia Dome
$5,746,430
61,419/61,419
1/1

Carter-Finely Stadium
$4,962,240
55,027/55,027
1/1

Scott Stadium
$4,738,695
52,433/52,433
1/1

the average ticket price for the DC show is about $79, while others are around $90....interesting. It was assumed that the DC show would pass 90,000 in attendance, but I guess with the show in Charlottesville, demand was decreased.

 

[The_acrobat]

Not bad. I wonder why they didn't do DC & Raleigh this year and then split the difference next year with Charlottesville. Attendance at all 3 shows would've been higher had they done this. Even still, great numbers. Did U2 beat the Stones attendance at Charlottesville?

 

[genesis199125]

Not bad. I wonder why they didn't do DC & Raleigh this year and then split the difference next year with Charlottesville. Attendance at all 3 shows would've been higher had they done this. Even still, great numbers. Did U2 beat the Stones attendance at Charlottesville?

No, U2 didn't beat the Stones. The Rolling Stones Charlottesville boxscore:

Scott Stadium, Charlottesville, Va.
Oct. 6, 2005
$5,707,785
57,908 / 57,908
1 / 1
$350, $60

 

[genesis199125]

I think it's rather odd that a small college town like Charlottesville had a higher average ticket price than the DC show.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

U2 360 TOUR

1ST LEG EUROPE

June 30, July 2, 2009
Barcelona, Spain
Camp Nou
GROSS: $19,825,497 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 182,055 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $108.90

July 7-8, 2009
Milan, Italy
Stadio San Siro
GROSS: $15,168,799 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 153,806 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $98.62

July 11-12, 2009
Paris, France
Stade De France
GROSS: $20,902,760 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 186,544 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $112.05

July 15, 2009
Nice, France
Stade Charles Erhmann, Nice
GROSS: $6,261,208
ATTENDANCE: 55,641
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS :1
Average Ticket Price: $112.53

July 18, 2009
Berlin, Germany
Olympic Stadium
GROSS: $9,169,830 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 88,265 (RECORD)
SHOWS :1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $103.89

July 20-21, 2009
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Amsterdam Arena
GROSS: $12,583,998
ATTENDANCE: 125,866
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $99.98

July 24-25, 27, 2009
Dublin, Ireland
Croke Park
GROSS: $28,815,352 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 243,198
SHOWS: 3
SELLOUTS: 3
Average Ticket Price: $118.49

July 31 - August 1, 2009
Goteborg, Sweden
Ullevi Stadion
GROSS: $11,047,995
ATTENDANCE: 119,297
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $92.61

August 3, 2009
Gelsenkirchen, Germany
Veltins-Arena
GROSS: $7,292,826 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 73,704 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $98.95

August 6, 2009
Chorzow, Poland
Slaski Stadium
GROSS: $6,414,960 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 75,180 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $85.33

August 9-10, 2009
Zagreb, Croatia
Maksimir Stadium
GROSS: $12,700,784 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 124,012 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $102.42

August 14-15, 2009
London, United Kingdom
Wembley Stadium
GROSS: $20,680,860
ATTENDANCE: 164,244
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $125.92

August 18, 2009
Glasgow, United Kingdom
Hampden Park
GROSS: $5,290,103
ATTENDANCE: 50,917
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $103.90

August 20, 2009
Sheffield, United Kingdom
Don Valley Stadium
GROSS: $5,147,896
ATTENDANCE: 49,955
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $103.05

August 22, 2009
Cardiff, United Kingdom
Millennium Stadium
GROSS: $7,041,576 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 66,538 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $105.83

U2 360 TOUR: 1ST LEG EUROPE STATS

GROSS: $188,344,444
ATTENDANCE: 1,759,222
Average Gross: $7,847,685
Average Attendance: 73,301
Average Ticket Price: $107.06
Shows: 24
Sellouts: 24

2ND LEG NORTH AMERICA

September 12-13, 2009
Chicago, Illinois
Soldier Field
GROSS: $13,860,480 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 135,872 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $102.01

September 16-17, 2009
Toronto, Ontario
Rogers Centre
GROSS: $9,571,672
ATTENDANCE: 115,411
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $82.94

September 20-21, 2009
Foxboro, Massachusetts
Gillette Stadium
GROSS: $12,859,778 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 138,805 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $92.65

September 23-24, 2009
East Rutherford, New Jersey
Giants Stadium
GROSS: $16,128,950
ATTENDANCE: 161,810
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $99.68

September 29, 2009
Landover, Maryland
Fedex Field
GROSS: $6,718,315 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 84,754 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $79.27

October 1, 2009
Charlottesville, Virginia
Scott Stadium
GROSS: $4,738,695
ATTENDANCE: 52,433
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $90.38

October 3, 2009
Raleigh, North Carolina
Carter-Finely Stadium
GROSS: $4,962,240 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 55,027
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $90.18

October 6, 2009
Atlanta, Georgia
Georgia Dome
GROSS: $5,746,430 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 61,419 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $93.56

U2 360 TOUR: 2ND LEG NORTH AMERICAN STATS

GROSS: $74,586,560
ATTENDANCE: 805,531
Average Gross: $6,215,547
Average Attendance: 67,128
Average Ticket Price: $92.59
Shows: 12
Sellouts: 12

U2 360 TOUR: TOTAL STATS TO DATE

GROSS: $262,931,004
ATTENDANCE: 2,564,753
Average Gross: $7,303,639
Average Attendance: 71,243
Average Ticket Price: $102.52
Shows: 36
Sellouts: 36

Huge numbers for the first 36 shows of the tour!

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

u2 1,2,3,4 top boxscore positions this week

FedEx Field
$6,718,315
84,754/84,754
1/1

Georgia Dome
$5,746,430
61,419/61,419
1/1

Carter-Finely Stadium
$4,962,240
55,027/55,027
1/1

Scott Stadium
$4,738,695
52,433/52,433
1/1

Thanks for posting the new boxscores!

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

the average ticket price for the DC show is about $79, while others are around $90....interesting. It was assumed that the DC show would pass 90,000 in attendance, but I guess with the show in Charlottesville, demand was decreased.

The DC show looked full except for a few area's on the ends towards the top of the upper level. 84,754 people is a huge number. As of right now, the DC 360 show is the 2nd highest attended U2 concert in North American history. It is only beaten by the September 25, 1987 Joshua Tree tour concert at JFK Stadium in Philadelphia where there was 86,145 people in attendance.

The DC 360 show beats out all North American shows for Pink Floyd with Pink Floyd largest show coming with their 1987 show at JFK stadium with just over 80,000 in attendance.

The DC 360 show beats out every North American show by the Who, with the exception of the September 25, 1982 show at JFK Stadium in Philadelphia attended by 91,451 people that holds the North American record for attendance at a non-festival ticketed show.

The DC 360 show beats out every North American show played by the Beatles.

The DC 360 show beats out every North American show played by Led Zeppelin.

The DC 360 show beats out every North American performance by the Rolling Stones with the exception of the following 9 shows:

Los Angeles Memorial Colliseum 1981
Los Angeles Memorial Colliseum 1981
Philadelphia JFK Stadium 1981
Philadelphia JFK Stadium 1981
New Orleans Superdome 1981
Los Angeles Memorial Colliseum 1989
Los Angeles Memorial Colliseum 1989
Los Angeles Memorial Colliseum 1989
Moncton, New Brunswick outdoor site 2005


So despite not hitting the expected 92,000 and taking the Who's North American record, the 84,754 crowd for Washington DC 360 is one of the 20 largest non-festival ticketed concerts in North American history, as well as being a record for the state of Maryland and the Washington DC area.

 

[robbrecon72]

I was at the Dallas show and it was packed to the rim so the boxscore should be good for that one too.

Europe Leg 2009
Total number of shows-24
Number of sellouts-24
Total gross-$188,344,444
Average gross per show-$7,847,685
Average ticket price-$107
Total attendance-1,759,222
Average attendance-73,301

N.A. Leg 2009
Total number of shows-12
Number of sellouts-12
Total gross-$74,586,560
Average gross per show-$6,215,547
Average ticket price-$92.6
Total attendance-805,531
Average attendance per show-67,128

U2 360 World Tour
Total number of shows-36
Number of sellouts-36
Total gross-$262,931,004
Average gross per show-$7,303,639
Average ticket price-$102.5
Total Attendance-2,564,753
Average attendance per show-71,243

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

Not bad. I wonder why they didn't do DC & Raleigh this year and then split the difference next year with Charlottesville. Attendance at all 3 shows would've been higher had they done this. Even still, great numbers. Did U2 beat the Stones attendance at Charlottesville?

Thats true, but they were very close to actually filling the maximum capacity in all 3 venues and slightly better economic conditions or a minor radio hit would have been enough for them to max out I think.

Still, record setting performances in each venue with the exception of Charlottesville. Realize though, that the Stones only played a single show at the MCI center in Washington DC and an Arena show in North Carolina when they got their Charlottesville record.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

I think it's rather odd that a small college town like Charlottesville had a higher average ticket price than the DC show.

The upper level at FEDEX FIELD was all sold at $30 dollars. Upper Level in Charlottesville had 3 different price levels, $95, $55, and then $30.

I think U2 could have sold thousands of the Upper Level seats at the $95 and $55 price as the entire field, lower level, and middle level soldout the first day. Having some higher priced tickets on the upper level would have pushed the gross passed 7 million, maybe to 7.5 million.

 

[robbrecon72]

the daily oklahoman said they expect 50,000-60,000 at the Norman concert.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

I'm not sure yet if the Carter Finley concert was an attendance record. Its definitely a gross record though. The Rolling Stones played Carter Finley Stadium in 1989 on their Steel Wheels tour and that is a show I do not have figures for yet.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

the daily oklahoman said they expect 50,000-60,000 at the Norman concert.

The Stones have the attendance record for a concert at a little over 53,000. Hopefully U2 can break that.

 

[robbrecon72]

Did the Stones have any concerts close to Norman that could possibly draw the attendance down? Dallas is close to Norman comparatively speaking, so I'm sure if either the Norman or Dallas show didn't exist then it would drive up the attendance level for either one.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

Did the Stones have any concerts close to Norman that could possibly draw the attendance down? Dallas is close to Norman comparatively speaking, so I'm sure if either the Norman or Dallas show didn't exist then it would drive up the attendance level for either one.

Well this is what the Stones had in that general area of the country on that leg of the tour in 1997:

October 26, 1997
Nashville Tennessee
Vanderbilt Stadium
GROSS: $2,551,578
ATTENDANCE: 45,193

October 28, 1997
Norman, Oklahoma
Owen Field
GROSS: $3,076,378
ATTENDANCE: 53,327

October 30, 1997
Albuquerque, New Mexico
University Of New Mexico Stadium
GROSS: $2,075,326
ATTENDANCE: 34,362

November 1, 1997
Fort Worth, Texas
Texas Motor Speedway
GROSS: $3,030,330
ATTENDANCE: 43,496

December 12, 1997
St. Louis, Missouri
TWA Dome
GROSS: $2,538,881
ATTENDANCE: 46,474

February 12-13, 1998
Houston, Texas
Compaq Center
GROSS: $2,244,058
ATTENDANCE: 23,612


I'm not sure how much of an impact St. Louis and Albuquerque would have on Norman Oklahoma given how far away they are, but I just thought I would include them. Nashville might be questionable as well. The Stones did not have any shows in Colorado.

 

[robbrecon72]

Thanks for the info. I checked TM and a lot of tickets have sold at Norman since 5 days ago.

 

[genesis199125]

The upper level at FEDEX FIELD was all sold at $30 dollars. Upper Level in Charlottesville had 3 different price levels, $95, $55, and then $30.

I think U2 could have sold thousands of the Upper Level seats at the $95 and $55 price as the entire field, lower level, and middle level soldout the first day. Having some higher priced tickets on the upper level would have pushed the gross passed 7 million, maybe to 7.5 million.

I think Live Nation did not want to take the risk of setting ticket prices for DC higher, since the capacity of the venue was so huge.

Also, do you know what the attendance was for the Rolling Stones at LA Memorial Coliseum back in '89?

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

I think Live Nation did not want to take the risk of setting ticket prices for DC higher, since the capacity of the venue was so huge.

Also, do you know what the attendance was for the Rolling Stones at LA Memorial Coliseum back in '89?

True, but I think its clear they were too conservative in the pricing of the Top level. It will be interesting to see how Dallas compares with Washington DC.

I don't have the Stones Boxscore for the LA Memorial Coliseum back in 1989, but I heard it was 90,000 per night. These shows were opened by Living Color and Guns N' Roses. The singer in Living Color and Axl Rose had big dispute going on with each making verbal references to the other during their individual shows opening for the Stones in LA. I think the dispute had something to do with one of the songs on Guns N' Roses new EP at the time. Guns N' Roses three shows opening for the Stones in LA were the only shows they played in 1989. Their previous tour had ended in 1988.

 

[genesis199125]

True, but I think its clear they were too conservative in the pricing of the Top level. It will be interesting to see how Dallas compares with Washington DC.

I don't have the Stones Boxscore for the LA Memorial Coliseum back in 1989, but I heard it was 90,000 per night. These shows were opened by Living Color and Guns N' Roses. The singer in Living Color and Axl Rose had big dispute going on with each making verbal references to the other during their individual shows opening for the Stones in LA. I think the dispute had something to do with one of the songs on Guns N' Roses new EP at the time. Guns N' Roses three shows opening for the Stones in LA were the only shows they played in 1989. Their previous tour had ended in 1988.

LOL.......Axl, always trying to start something. Yes, but now that you mention it, the Rolling Stones have always picked top-tier support acts, so i think we can be certain that it has had an effect on their attendance figures.

I have a question.....according to the RIAA figures in the United States:

The Beatles: 170 million records
Led Zeppelin: 111.5 million records
The Rolling Stones: 66.5 million records
U2: 50.5 million records
The Who: 21 million records

As you can see, comparatively, The Who have sold far fewer records. Yet, how is it that they have managed to play to such huge numbers on their tours? I'm not saying they're better or worse than any of those other bands, I'm just saying, from an objective viewpoint, just in terms of record sales, it doesn't seem to make any sense.

 

[Mrs. Garrison]

Thanks for the info. I checked TM and a lot of tickets have sold at Norman since 5 days ago.

FUCK YEAH!

just because we are the SOONERS doesnt mean we rush out to buy tickets right away. Looks like people are finally getting around to buying some tix, plus they have been promoting the heck out of this show the last month. It's gonna be awesome. People at work were asking me today about the Dallas show monday night, i didnt even realize i had told anyone why i had taken off, they just knew somehow.