The Joshua Tree Tour 2017 Boxscore Discussion

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New tour, new boxscores!
Current Boxscore | Billboard

May 12, 2017 - Vancouver, BC - BC Place Stadium
GROSS: $4,321,731
ATTENDANCE: 45,436
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $95.12

May 14, 2017 - Seattle, WA - CenturyLink Field
GROSS: $6,249,670
ATTENDANCE: 57,009
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $109.63

May 17, 2017 - Santa Clara, CA - Levi's Stadium
GROSS: $6,268,805
ATTENDANCE: 50,072
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $125.20

May 20 & 21, 2017 - Pasadena, CA - Rose Bowl
GROSS: $15,784,565
ATTENDANCE: 123,164
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $128.16

May 24, 2017 - Houston, TX - NRG Stadium
GROSS: $5,889,005
ATTENDANCE: 47,669
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $123.54

May 26, 2017 - Arlington, TX - AT&T Stadium
GROSS: $6,044,330
ATTENDANCE: 49,807
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $121.36

June 3 & 4, 2017 - Chicago, IL - Soldier Field
GROSS: $13,435,925
ATTENDANCE: 105,078
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $127.87

June 7, 2017 - Pittsburgh, PA - Heinz Field
GROSS: $4,273,920
ATTENDANCE: 41,413
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $103.20

THE JOSHUA TREE TOUR 2017: 1ST LEG - NORTH AMERICA STATS

GROSS: $62,267,951
ATTENDANCE: 519,648
AVERAGE GROSS: $6,226,795
AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 51,965
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $119.83
SHOWS: 10
SELLOUTS: 10


Let me know if any of the calculations are wrong.
 
Massive laugh at Pittsburgh being reported as sold out. Yeah, yeah, technicalities, but stop pulling our leg.
 
No kidding. They probably fear that listing a show as a non-sellout will damage their reputation as a top draw.
 
Why does U2 get to choose to list a show as a sell out when it obviously isn't?
 
Why does U2 get to choose to list a show as a sell out when it obviously isn't?

The boxscore report tallies figures submitted by the venue, the promoter and artist management so it probably isn't the band 'choosing' what is termed a sellout. (If that's what you meant? apologies if I mis-interpreted.)

The actual math of a sellout is pre-determined when show contracts are negotiated. In other words, a sell out is not always precisely tied to maximum venue capacity. It is more tied to a number where the band and promoter earn what they are contractually promised, and everything after that is paid out in bonus tiers.

So for Pittsburgh perhaps they anticipated a specific number for sell out that was less than maximum capacity, ran the math based on that number, hit that number and were therefore able to report the show (to Billboard Business) as a sell out. In this scenario sell out is a contractual/financial term and not a marketing/p.r. buzz word.

This is just my slightly-educated guess as I am certainly not privy to Live Nation contracts! Perhaps my guess, in the end, is miles off from reality.
 
Seems like a higher average ticket price than the 360 tour.
 
I'm disappointed by the results in Vancouver, Houston, Dallas, and of course Pittsburgh. Demand at these shows was clearly weaker than 360 which is a shock given this is a nostalgia show for the Joshua Tree album.

Thanks for posting the stats prbiker15. Cool to finally see them and make the comparisons to previous tours.

I should add though that although Pittsburgh JT 2017 was beaten by 360, JT 2017 did about 2,000 attendance better than ZOO TV stop there in 1992.
 
Massive laugh at Pittsburgh being reported as sold out. Yeah, yeah, technicalities, but stop pulling our leg.



A lot of artists pull this and technically they are right but it's bullshit.

If you put 100 tickets on sale for Meadowlands Stadium and sell them all....I guess you sold out the Meadowlands...lol
 
I'm disappointed by the results in Vancouver, Houston, Dallas, and of course Pittsburgh. Demand at these shows was clearly weaker than 360 which is a shock given this is a nostalgia show for the Joshua Tree album.



Thanks for posting the stats prbiker15. Cool to finally see them and make the comparisons to previous tours.



I should add though that although Pittsburgh JT 2017 was beaten by 360, JT 2017 did about 2,000 attendance better than ZOO TV stop there in 1992.



What was the average ticket in 1992? The bottom line would be did they gross more adjusted for inflation in 2017 vs 1992 and I think that they might have, which is great
 
Biggest surprise for me is the average ticket price jumping from ~$101 on 360 to ~$120 for JT.

More impressive, the average NA ticket was ~$92 for 360 and its $120 now, so a 30% jump!!

What that means is with 46 shows at about 55k per show(Europe and SA are going to bring the average attendance up from the current 50k) means 2.5 million tickets!!!

Going for $120 a pop...this tour is going to gross about $300 million!

That's before they add a few shows to SA after the sellouts and if they add Australia and more European dates like they did for the US....this tour could hit $400 million +
 
Not exactly a surprise.
GA were $49.50 before fees on first NA leg of 360 if I recall, they are $70 this year. Top tickets I think were $250 for 360 and are $280-290 this year.

Wow, I didn't remember the GAs being that cheap on 360. But yeah, that top 290 price does seem higher this time.

Also a factor I suppose, they're not selling behind-stage seating, which probably would have mostly been cheaper seats on the 360 tour, since they were, you know, behind the stage. So fewer cheap seats would also bring the average up for JT30.
 
What was the average ticket in 1992? The bottom line would be did they gross more adjusted for inflation in 2017 vs 1992 and I think that they might have, which is great

That's not an accurate comparison due to the way tickets were priced before 1994. Generally, before then you had a single price based on what demand would be for the worst seat in the stadium or the arena. In 1992, $30 dollars was the highest average ticket price there had ever been for a major stadium tour.

You can't really start to compare today's prices adjusting for simple dollar inflation for concerts prior to 2000, especially with U2. It was not until the elevation tour that U2 had multiple price levels for most tickets based strictly on what demand was believed to be for that particular seat.

Although POPMART did have one lower price level, it was only used on the 2nd level at the very back of the stadium. More than 90% of the tickets were charged at the same price level, essentially the same as U2 had done through out their career prior to that point.
 
Biggest surprise for me is the average ticket price jumping from ~$101 on 360 to ~$120 for JT.

More impressive, the average NA ticket was ~$92 for 360 and its $120 now, so a 30% jump!!

What that means is with 46 shows at about 55k per show(Europe and SA are going to bring the average attendance up from the current 50k) means 2.5 million tickets!!!

Going for $120 a pop...this tour is going to gross about $300 million!

That's before they add a few shows to SA after the sellouts and if they add Australia and more European dates like they did for the US....this tour could hit $400 million +

Wow, I didn't remember the GAs being that cheap on 360. But yeah, that top 290 price does seem higher this time.

Also a factor I suppose, they're not selling behind-stage seating, which probably would have mostly been cheaper seats on the 360 tour, since they were, you know, behind the stage. So fewer cheap seats would also bring the average up for JT30.

Remember, there was a tour called the Innocence And Experience Tour that saw increased ticket prices over 360. I think JT's tour prices are actually pretty similar to the Innocence And Experience Tour.
 
Remember, there was a tour called the Innocence And Experience Tour that saw increased ticket prices over 360. I think JT's tour prices are actually pretty similar to the Innocence And Experience Tour.

Yep. IE tour had an average around 115 to 120
 
Remember, there was a tour called the Innocence And Experience Tour that saw increased ticket prices over 360. I think JT's tour prices are actually pretty similar to the Innocence And Experience Tour.



But wouldn't supply typically dictate higher prices for an arena show? Having 50,000 unique seats available vs 17,000?
 
But wouldn't supply typically dictate higher prices for an arena show? Having 50,000 unique seats available vs 17,000?

Not necessarily. They are different tours, with different levels of demand to see the band. The size venue can impact ticket price, but far more important is simply the desire of the public to see the band in concert. Plus remember, a lot of those shows on Innocence and Experience struggled to sell their tickets. When you underplay the market, like say play theaters when you can play stadiums, you can jack the price up very high. But as we now know, much to my surprise and others, U2's popularity to a big dip and they were not underplaying at all in the markets they played. They wanted to do 8 shows in LA but had to stop at just 5. The two Denver shows failed to sellout. Combined attendance there was less than the one POPMART show in 1997.
 
......But as we now know, much to my surprise and others, U2's popularity to a big dip and they were not underplaying at all in the markets they played.....

You are talking about the US I guess? As you know, the world is bigger than that. They definately underplayed markets they played during the I&E tour!!
 
Final round of U.S./Canada boxscores out.

June 11, 2017 - Miami, FL - Hard Rock Stadium
GROSS: $5,923,665
ATTENDANCE: 48,494
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $122.15

June 14, 2017 - Tampa, FL - Raymond James Stadium
GROSS: $6,125,415
ATTENDANCE: 52,958
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $115.67

June 16, 2017 - Louisville, KY - Papa John's Cardinal Stadium
GROSS: $4,810,535
ATTENDANCE: 45,491
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $105.75

June 18, 2017 - Philadelphia, PA - Lincoln Financial Field
GROSS: $6,259,880
ATTENDANCE: 56,570
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $110.66

June 20, 2017 - Landover, MD - FedEx Field
GROSS: $6,286,385
ATTENDANCE: 49,827
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $126.16

June 23, 2017 - Toronto, ON - Rogers Centre
GROSS: $5,059,568
ATTENDANCE: 52,704
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $96.00

June 25, 2017 - Foxborough, MA - Gillette Stadium
GROSS: $6,881,340
ATTENDANCE: 55,231
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $124.59

June 28 & 29, 2017 - East Rutherford, NJ - MetLife Stadium
GROSS: $14,568,805
ATTENDANCE: 110,642
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $131.68

July 1, 2017 - Cleveland, OH - FirstEnergy Stadium
GROSS: $5,582,965
ATTENDANCE: 51,849
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $107.68

THE JOSHUA TREE TOUR 2017: 1ST LEG - NORTH AMERICA STATS

GROSS: $123,766,509
ATTENDANCE: 1,042,694
AVERAGE GROSS: $6,188,325
AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 52,135
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $118.70
SHOWS: 20
SELLOUTS: 20


Will be interesting to see how many tickets they'll sell on the next North American leg.
 
I think it's fair to expect a much lower average ticket price for Leg 3.
 
I think it's fair to expect a much lower average ticket price for Leg 3.

We shall see. I don't think it will dip below 100 bucks. That said, it's infuriating to see idiots on FB and Instagram saying they "couldn't go" to a U2 show, or WON'T go to U2 show because their ticket prices are so astronomical.

100 bucks. You pay that to go see a local cirque du soleil show, or a half way decent stand up comic. so stupid.
 
Looks like the Joshua Tree tour 2017 could finish with around $310 million in gross which might be enough for placement in the top 10 tours of all time. Top 15 once you adjust for inflation. That's really good for 50 shows. One wonders what they could do if they took the tour to every city around the world that could support a show of this size.
 
I'm disappointed by the results in Vancouver, Houston, Dallas, and of course Pittsburgh. Demand at these shows was clearly weaker than 360 which is a shock given this is a nostalgia show for the Joshua Tree album.

This was the first time they did a stadium show in 2 PNW cities on a single trip.

Vancouver never really had a drop and I know experienced last minute ticket buyers who did not get into the show - without or without all the GA headaches. Both Canadian shows had a couple thousand tickets that could have been sold if the sight lines were there.
 
With all the other shows out now, it's official: Pittsburgh shit the bed.

Dallas was 10k short of what other 270 sight line shows had done there.

George Strait did nearly 105,000 for his 2014 "in the round" show, 35 more than U2 did on 360.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Stadium#Concerts

May 26, 2017 - Arlington, TX - AT&T Stadium
GROSS: $6,044,330
ATTENDANCE: 49,807
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
AVERAGE TICKET PRICE: $121.36

Did Dallas have a greater percentage of "potentially unsold seats" than Pitts?
 
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