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Old 11-09-2017, 03:33 PM   #76
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Songs of Experience - Let The Chart Speculation Begin

Not even one million seller in America. Sales are bad aren't they. Taylor swift I suppose will sell a million this year. Ed sheeran will probably top a million aswell with xmas sales
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:51 PM   #77
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Not even one million seller in America. Sales are bad aren't they. Taylor swift I suppose will sell a million this year. Ed sheeran will probably top a million aswell with xmas sales
We'll see. Taylor Swifts last album sold 1.3 million units in the United States in its first week of release. Her new album comes out tomorrow. It will easily sell a million units before the end of the year, the question is will it top a million units in its first week on chart. As for Songs Of Experience, right now you only need to sell about 250,000 to crack the top 25 albums of the year. I think the new U2 album should easily place in the top 20 before the end of the year. The Joshua Tree is the 90th biggest selling album this year.
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Old 11-10-2017, 03:58 AM   #78
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We'll see. Taylor Swifts last album sold 1.3 million units in the United States in its first week of release. Her new album comes out tomorrow. It will easily sell a million units before the end of the year, the question is will it top a million units in its first week on chart. As for Songs Of Experience, right now you only need to sell about 250,000 to crack the top 25 albums of the year. I think the new U2 album should easily place in the top 20 before the end of the year. The Joshua Tree is the 90th biggest selling album this year.


Wow for the Joshua tree, that's good going for an album 30 years old
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They are saying Swift could sell TWO million in her first week. Yep.
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So I guess she won’t hit 2 million. But between 1.2 and 1.5.
Already the highest selling album of the year so far - in 4 Days.
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So I guess she won’t hit 2 million. But between 1.2 and 1.5.
Already the highest selling album of the year so far - in 4 Days.
Sigh.


U2 won't be getting anywhere near that. In fact if they sell 1.2 million copies in the states overall, the album will be a huge success. Fingers crossed they can do a million.

Predictions for first week sales? With the link to this ticket sales it changes everything.

There's 15 dates, not sure on all the arenas capacities so let's just say 20k. That's 300k who can claim a free record. Plus there's going to be more dates added for sure.

500k would be a Huge massive first week sale

Anything below 250-300k would be a disappointment I think
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U2 won't be getting anywhere near that. In fact if they sell 1.2 million copies in the states overall, the album will be a huge success. Fingers crossed they can do a million.

Predictions for first week sales? With the link to this ticket sales it changes everything.

There's 15 dates, not sure on all the arenas capacities so let's just say 20k. That's 300k who can claim a free record. Plus there's going to be more dates added for sure.

500k would be a Huge massive first week sale

Anything below 250-300k would be a disappointment I think
Billboard articles say that the typical redemption rate for artists doing this is about 20-30%
I would think U2 might be a bit lower than other hot younger artists, so lets put them at about a 22% rate of redemption.

So right now - 15 shows - probably an avg of about 18k per show.
= 270k X 22% = 59,400

Say they add 10 more shows
They would have 450k X 22% = 99,000


I would say the most they will get from the ticket tie in will be about 100k.
Add that to maybe 150k for traditional sales and you get 250k...

With Sam Smith only getting 200k and Maroon 5 only getting about 115k for their first week... I'm hoping U2 can hit 250 to 300k the first week, but definitely isn't a given.

Chris Stapleton is going to be a monster to beat. I'm guessing he will be in the 350 or higher range.

Best case scenario?

If they add about 18 more shows (multiples in NY, NJ, Philly, Chicago, Boston, LA, etc...) this would help. But it would also decrease the percentage of people that would redeem since there would be a lot of fans going multiple times. Sooooo lets say its a grand total of 33 shows - 20% redemption rate - 600k X 20% = 120k...

Lookin like a number 2 album for them this time around. Grrrrrrrr
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So I guess she won’t hit 2 million. But between 1.2 and 1.5.
Already the highest selling album of the year so far - in 4 Days.
Sigh.


https://www.billboard.com/amp/articl...lion-copies-us
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She outsold the entire rest of the Billboard 200. And this is all on sales alone, no streaming as she's not releasing it on those platforms until next week.
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Speaking of next week, Eminem is rumored to have a surprise album dropping. That for sure might have an impact on U2's chance at a Number 1 album given that rap albums by established stars have had big second week sales this year: (Jay Z at nearly 100k, Drake and Kendrick well over 200k).

And Eminem's last album sold 700k copies in week one, not counting streaming.
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Speaking of next week, Eminem is rumored to have a surprise album dropping. That for sure might have an impact on U2's chance at a Number 1 album given that rap albums by established stars have had big second week sales this year: (Jay Z at nearly 100k, Drake and Kendrick well over 200k).

And Eminem's last album sold 700k copies in week one, not counting streaming.
Eminem is slated for Dec. 8th. We’ll see if U2 sticks in the top 10 on week 2...
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Songs of Experience - Let The Chart Speculation Begin

Interesting thought to ponder.....an album leak, like the one SOE "experienced" on 11/25, is usually considered something that hurts sales to some extent. That didn't seem to be the cast for HTDAAB (sold 840k in US alone opening week) or NLOTH (sold 484k opening week). With SOE I not only think it won't hurt sales but I actually think it will increase sales.

The fan feedback that has been all over this site and twitter has been very positive. Granted they are already fans but as we have seen, there were fans who were not going to purchase the album as they thought it would be "more of the same" but were so impressed now they are buying it. I guess we will see what happens.....
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there were fans who were not going to purchase the album as they thought it would be "more of the same" but were so impressed now they are buying it.
I'm in that camp. Not only am I buying it now, I'm buying the deluxe and have convinced a bunch of friends/family to do the same. So I don't think this leak has hurt them in my case!
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Old 11-29-2017, 04:26 AM   #89
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I think the large majority of people don't even know it's leaked. The nloth leak made a lot of news this leak is really in the background
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Good time to start monitoring the charts:

http://kworb.net/itunes/artist/u2.html
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