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Old 10-23-2017, 11:54 AM   #31
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Just some more chart info to sort of get a feel of how U2 may do.

Pink obviously a huge debut, powered heavily by the ticket promo, but also just did really well on its own

Gucci Mane at number 2 70,000 units. - I'm not a rap guy, but I know he's a pretty big name, and this is not the greatest showing. it was heavily helped by streaming. Only 21,000 in traditional albums sold.

Beck number 3 with 46,000. That's pretty bleak for Alt/Rock. And what gives me pause with U2's numbers. Beck is a major artist, is on tour, opened for U2, did a lot of social media promotion and some live tv promo stuff.

I am still feeling comfortable with my initial guess for U2. Obviously it all hinges on if they do a ticket thing. But if they don't, i think 140k to 160k is a good number for them. Anything higher than that would be outstanding and show that they did the lead up to this album right.

this is a good article that gives some more detail on ticket for album promotional tie ins:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/co...00-album-chart
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Old 10-23-2017, 11:01 PM   #32
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The thing about Beck is that he doesn't have the built in fan base that U2 has, not even close. He did have a lot of promo as "Wow" is on a car commercial and he is getting decent radio play with Up all Night from Triple A and Alternative formats. The thing with "Wow" is it was released on June 2nd....2016! I would think any built up excitement would have burnt out by now from that single.

Thats nuts to release a single a year and a half before the album.

On a side note, I really like Up All Night. What a cool song and a really cool video.
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Old 10-29-2017, 07:32 PM   #33
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Looks like Chris Stapleton's album is coming out that same week...
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:39 AM   #34
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Looks like Chris Stapleton's album is coming out that same week...
aw shit. Well, U2 better get the god damn album up for pre sale to start racking up some sales. Stapleton's Volume 1 of this double album, opened with 219k in May of this year. Add on the holiday sales, and well... U2 ain't gonna have a number one unless they do a ticket promo tie in. Shit. I really hoped they would rack up one more number one album.
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aw shit. Well, U2 better get the god damn album up for pre sale to start racking up some sales. Stapleton's Volume 1 of this double album, opened with 219k in May of this year. Add on the holiday sales, and well... U2 ain't gonna have a number one unless they do a ticket promo tie in. Shit. I really hoped they would rack up one more number one album.


I still am going with my predication of 350k first week with a potential of hitting 400k.

I’m basing this off of the following assumptions that are mine and mine alone:

-TBT will continue to grow on US radio and by the time of the albums release may be at 15-20 million impressions a day.

-Album announcement with an offer of a new single (whatever it turns out to be) if you pre-order

-Performance at the AMAs on 11/19 (I think that’s the date)

-RSD release of The Blackout on 11/24 May generate some good publicity

-Performance on SNL on 12/2

If there is a ticket bundle, which why not do, then this album will definitely hit closer to 400k.
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What did nloth do its its first week? Didn't that do around 400-500k? Can't see it getting the same as that unless there's some ticket tie in
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What did nloth do its its first week? Didn't that do around 400-500k? Can't see it getting the same as that unless there's some ticket tie in


484k first week I think.
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Rumor is Kygo will be joining Bono and Adam in Spain for the Los40 show. I’d have to believe we might be getting the first performance of YTBTAM Kygo mix.
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484k first week I think.
Yeah, that is ancient history. If U2 does some real promotion, including SNL and AMA's plus get the damn album up for presale NOW, and throw in some perks, then i can see them maybe hitting 200-225k. If they do a ticket promo, add on another 100k.
If they do tepid promo, and just kinda coast to Dec. 1st, and don't get the album up online to order within the week, then 150-160k or so would be my best guess. Again, add 100k onto that if they do a ticket tie in.

Believe me, i hope Cosmo is right, and i'm way off. But this is as far as I'm willing to push my estimates.
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What do you think the worldwide total could be ?

Nloth did 5 million didn't it?

Top seller this year is ed Sheeran who has sold 7.6 million. But if you take ED sheeran and Adele out of the record selling lists nobody is doing anywhere near what they do.

The next artist down on the list is Kendrick Lamar who has done 3.2.

If nloth did 5 then I think 7 years on if soe does 3 million copies worldwide I think it's a massive success.

Anything over 2 million will be a success I think 3 plus will be a great achievement
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What do you think the worldwide total could be ?

Nloth did 5 million didn't it?

Top seller this year is ed Sheeran who has sold 7.6 million. But if you take ED sheeran and Adele out of the record selling lists nobody is doing anywhere near what they do.

The next artist down on the list is Kendrick Lamar who has done 3.2.

If nloth did 5 then I think 7 years on if soe does 3 million copies worldwide I think it's a massive success.

Anything over 2 million will be a success I think 3 plus will be a great achievement
Yeah, did SOI hit 1 million? I think it did. And that was free for most people to get. So I think you're right, 2 million would be a good number and 3 would be a big deal. Would be awesome to see them hit platinum in the US again.
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Yeah, did SOI hit 1 million? I think it did. And that was free for most people to get. So I think you're right, 2 million would be a good number and 3 would be a big deal. Would be awesome to see them hit platinum in the US again.


Think it did do a million in the end, like you say most people already had that record when it came out anyway.

3 million would be a great figure for them
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If they could pull off another number 1 and a platinum album in the US. That would be their 13th Platinum (studio album) and 8th number 1 album in the US. moving them ahead of Led Zep for the 3rd most number one albums.
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I'm going for 350k first week in the US and 75k first week in the UK.
however they ened some reasonable promotion the week of and the week before release and they need a second single (a rock single, the blackout) released the week before.

I think they will beat Stapleton. I had never heard of him and had to check him out on Wikepedia. His last album had two top 20 singles, but his forthcoming album doesnt seem to have had anything or at least not on the Hot100, without the hits and due to him having only been around (releasing albums) for a couple of years I dont think he has anywhere near the fanbase U2 has, so i'll go for him only hitting 200k first week.
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If there's a ticket tie in , sales will be huge
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