Native_Son
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so under 300k at the end?
you cant extrapolate those figures, until at least 90% of the sales are in
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you cant extrapolate those figures, until at least 90% of the sales are in
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For HTDAAB, sales were predicted to be anywhere from 750K to 900K.
Initial numbers, from HITS, suggested 600-700K (or even lower) if one extrapolated. Some journalists, not familiar with HITS, were laughing at U2's "low" sales.
Of course, final numbers came in at 850K - so on the high end of the predictions.
It seems logical to extrapolate (33% has 100K, so 300K total), but that's not how this system works.
HITS themselves predicted 400-450K. I'd stick with that until proven otherwise.
As I have said before a better measuring stick will be to see how this album performs over the next 12-18 months.
Not everybody is going to stop what they are doing in life to buy a CD on the first day or even the first week...it was mostly hardcore fans going and buying the CD this week and that is fine too...you cant compare U2 to the U2 of the past the market is different and generally the age group is different. How much is U2 ahead of second place is a better indication.
Not everybody is going to stop what they are doing in life to buy a CD on the first day or even the first week...it was mostly hardcore fans going and buying the CD this week and that is fine too...you cant compare U2 to the U2 of the past the market is different and generally the age group is different. How much is U2 ahead of second place is a better indication.
phommel
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but the question is if the difference in music market nov-march also counts for a U2 album. I don't believe NLOTH would have sold 2 times as much if it was released in november...
phommel
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In Netherlands, NLOTH is number 1, and accounts for 33% of TOTAL album sales of the complete TOP100. number 3 (Adele-19; week 4) sold 16% of NLOTH-numbers...
fedeu2
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You´re forgetting about the ever dwindling album sales (since 2000 at least). How much has the market retracted from 2004 up to know?
I guess around 20-25%.
I reckon that taking into account both factors, i.e., season variation and retraction of the market, the figures for NLOTH are kind of tantamount to those of Bomb. If the new album ends up selling 400-450 K that is.
Native_Son
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I think perhaps the UK is the only market where album sales have remained strong.
australia,italy,france,hungary,poland. many others in the next hours-days.
mikeuk
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France .. and U2.com lists some more, incl Japan - where i thought it was 4 (maybe they are being liberal in which chart eg Import acts sales ?) Mike
Native_Son
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in Japan there is a seperate International chart, of which U2 are #1
alright baby.
c'mon increases sales on the horizon.Native_Son
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Still appears to be very low (although as we know this can change)
still its outselling the rest of the top 20 combined, and 5 times that if the #1 album (albeit thats already been at #1 for many weeks) depending on how kelly clarkson does next week, i think the doors open for U2 to have a long stay at the top spot.
mikeuk
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Still I hadn't realised how low sales generally are in the US these days. I guess Europe really is now U2's biggest market in CD sales and live tickets Mike
cjboog
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The number of album sales coming in in the latest batch has increased significantly.
The first # we had was 99,510 sold with 36.2% reporting for an average of 2,749 for each additional percent that came in.
Now we are at 50.65% and 179,981 sold. That means that since the first batch, we've had 14.45% come in with 80,471 sold which is a rate of 5,569 for each additional percent.
So the rate coming in has increased a lot since we last heard
This might not be so bad after all.
The first # we had was 99,510 sold with 36.2% reporting for an average of 2,749 for each additional percent that came in.
Now we are at 50.65% and 179,981 sold. That means that since the first batch, we've had 14.45% come in with 80,471 sold which is a rate of 5,569 for each additional percent.
So the rate coming in has increased a lot since we last heard
This might not be so bad after all.
U2 will probably only sell about a third as many copies next week, so I would think Kelly Clarkson should easily top that.
mikeuk
War Child
The number of album sales coming in in the latest batch has increased significantly.
The first # we had was 99,510 sold with 36.2% reporting for an average of 2,749 for each additional percent that came in.
Now we are at 50.65% and 179,981 sold. That means that since the first batch, we've had 14.45% come in with 80,471 sold which is a rate of 5,569 for each additional percent.
So the rate coming in has increased a lot since we last heard
This might not be so bad after all.
okay - so your prediction is what ? Mike
cjboog
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No idea. All I know is that the rate has gotten much better from those initial numbers. Impossible to make a prediction at this point I think if the numbers keep changing. I still agree with Doctorwho that we should expect 400-450k because that's what Hits DD predicted, but I'm always optimistic and am hoping for more
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No idea. All I know is that the rate has gotten much better from those initial numbers. Impossible to make a prediction at this point I think if the numbers keep changing. I still agree with Doctorwho that we should expect 400-450k because that's what Hits DD predicted, but I'm always optimistic and am hoping for more
Im pushing for 500k but maybe 400k is what we are looking at.
U2 have almost outsold the rest of the top 50 albums combined. Comparing previous albums to this one is comparing apples to oranges...comparing apples to apples U2 is dominating the charts nobody else is even close...
If there is no major releases this week they can certainly be #1 again.
I would say its very impressive actually.
If there is no major releases this week they can certainly be #1 again.
I would say its very impressive actually.
cjboog
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Alright I haven't seen any new Hits DD updates so I did a little math about potential scenarios because I have nothing better to do...
If we assume that the overall "rate" that the sales come in at stays about the same as it's been overall (meaning fluctuating between higher and lower), we are currently on pace for about 355k total in the US.
If we assume that the CURRENT "rate" (meaning the most recent one, which was significantly higher than the initial numbers) holds the rest of the time, then we would theoretically be on pace for 455k in the US.
If we think that the current rate might actually increase towards the second half even more than it already has, then we could see even more than that and maybe even close to or above 500k.
That being said, I have no idea which scenario is more likely
If we assume that the overall "rate" that the sales come in at stays about the same as it's been overall (meaning fluctuating between higher and lower), we are currently on pace for about 355k total in the US.
If we assume that the CURRENT "rate" (meaning the most recent one, which was significantly higher than the initial numbers) holds the rest of the time, then we would theoretically be on pace for 455k in the US.
If we think that the current rate might actually increase towards the second half even more than it already has, then we could see even more than that and maybe even close to or above 500k.
That being said, I have no idea which scenario is more likely
fedeu2
War Child
When is Kelly Clarkson´s latest abomination coming out? Heard it´s being released next week. If so, there´s no chance for U2 to hold number one.
fedeu2
War Child
Alright I haven't seen any new Hits DD updates so I did a little math about potential scenarios because I have nothing better to do...
If we assume that the overall "rate" that the sales come in at stays about the same as it's been overall (meaning fluctuating between higher and lower), we are currently on pace for about 355k total in the US.
If we assume that the CURRENT "rate" (meaning the most recent one, which was significantly higher than the initial numbers) holds the rest of the time, then we would theoretically be on pace for 455k in the US.
If we think that the current rate might actually increase towards the second half even more than it already has, then we could see even more than that and maybe even close to or above 500k.
That being said, I have no idea which scenario is more likely
Maybe doctorwho would remember this better but I´m pretty sure that during the HTDAAB days major retailer chains reported on Tuesday. If so, U2 will definitely perform better tomorrow. Also, when Hits states "30% in" it doesn´t mean 30% of total sales has been reported. Rather, it's 30% of retailers.
cjboog
Refugee
Her last CD debuted with 291,000 in the US. If U2 has a strong second week, you never know...
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