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Old 11-11-2006, 08:22 PM   #1
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Box office figures from other tours

We know the total box office figure from the Vertigo Tour but what are the figures from the other tours like War, Unforgettable Fire, Joshua Tree, Lovetown, Zoo TV, Popmart and Elevation?
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I remember reading that Popmart took in $80m losing money off of $100m in production costs, but merchandise sales kept the tour in the black. Elevation made much more than that but I don't have the number right now.
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Re: Box office figures from other tours

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We know the total box office figure from the Vertigo Tour but what are the figures from the other tours like War, Unforgettable Fire, Joshua Tree, Lovetown, Zoo TV, Popmart and Elevation?
Here are some rounded figures:

POPMART $171 million
Elevation $143 million
ZOO TV $145 million(estimate)

I'll have to look up the earlier tours. It will be an estimate because Amusement Business did not start to report figures outside North America until 1995.
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I remember reading that Popmart took in $80m losing money off of $100m in production costs, but merchandise sales kept the tour in the black. Elevation made much more than that but I don't have the number right now.
This is actually incorrect. Production cost were 214,000 dollars per day, even if there was not a show, which worked out to a little under $70 million dollars for the entire tour. The tour Grossed 171 million dollars.

Regardless of the cost vs. gross figures, the band was protected from any of the risk because of the deal they signed with Michael Cohl. Michael Cohl guaranteed the band $100 million dollars regardless of how successful the tour was. All the financial risk was taken by Michael Cohl if the tour did not do well.

Merchandise sales helped the band on earlier tours when the ticket prices were not high enough to provide much profit.
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I've got some figures from Pimm's live book

War 2nd leg $1.175.000

Joshua Tree 1st leg $7.501.329
Joshua Tree 2nd leg ???
Joshua Tree 3rd leg $27.255.566

Lovetown 1st leg ???
Lovetown 2nd leg ???

Zoo TV 1st leg $13.215.414
Zoo TV 2nd leg ??? (according to the book it even lose money)
Outside Broadcast $53.913.608
Mexican dates $4.148.756
Zooropa ???
Zoomerang ???

Popmart 1st leg $80.000.000 ????
Popmart 2nd leg ???
Popmart 3rd leg $26.036.837
Popmart 4rd leg $33.144.315
Total Cross $171.677.024

Did Unforgettable Fire & Lovetown make money??
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Ok the 80,000,000 must have come from the first leg. But I know in terms of profitability ZooTV, Elevation, and especially Vertigo far outdid Popmart.
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Ok the 80,000,000 must have come from the first leg. But I know in terms of profitability ZooTV, Elevation, and especially Vertigo far outdid Popmart.
POPMART outdid ZOO TV in terms of how much money went to the band members because of the dramatic way they changed the way they promoted the tour. Instead of aligning themselves with local promoters all over the world, they went with one tour promoter, Michael Cohl, who agreed to gaurentee the band $100 million dollars regardless of how successful the tour was, in exchange for being the sole promoter of the tour in every market. POPMART also saw a huge increase in ticket prices, relative to the average cost of the tour per day. These things combined allowed U2 and Michael Cohl to make a large amount of money on the tour, with U2 of course receiving $100 million dollars.

On Elevation, the Profit was a little higher than POPMARTs, but not much even though cost were much lower and ticket prices much higher. This was because the tour was in Arena's and played to a much smaller number of people.

Vertigo is the tour that is far out doing anything that U2 has done to date. The whole tour cost about $100 million dollars and the band will gross just from ticket sales about $400 million dollars giving the band about a $300 million tour profit just from ticket sales. This nearly exceeds all the money the band had made previous to Vertigo from touring. Then merchandise sales comes in, and the bands profit goes even higher.

There continues to be a growing gap between the wealth of U2 and the average wealth of their fans.
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Haha, but they were able to do that with a smaller show, and tickets at only $50, hopefully the prices stay affordable in the future.
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POPMART outdid ZOO TV in terms of how much money went to the band members because of the dramatic way they changed the way they promoted the tour. Instead of aligning themselves with local promoters all over the world, they went with one tour promoter, Michael Cohl, who agreed to gaurentee the band $100 million dollars regardless of how successful the tour was, in exchange for being the sole promoter of the tour in every market. POPMART also saw a huge increase in ticket prices, relative to the average cost of the tour per day. These things combined allowed U2 and Michael Cohl to make a large amount of money on the tour, with U2 of course receiving $100 million dollars.

Actually, STING2, this is incorrect a bit.

U2's ticket prices in '97 were in line with, if not less than, most acts. The fact that prices ranged from $35-57.50 actually made U2 fairly cheap! Bee Gees, for example, were over $100 for tickets. I recall doing some homework back in '97 and U2 were indeed on the lower end. Fans were just shocked because they were used to the $25-35 price range, not $57.

And, while U2 did receive $100M, I have a feeling that was to pay their entire crew as well as themselves. That is, I doubt Bono, Edge, Larry, Adam and Paul McG each got $20M from that tour. I'm sure they made millions, but not as much after paying staff, crew, props, transportation, etc. This is why T-shirts and other souvenirs sales at shows help bands so much.
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Actually, STING2, this is incorrect a bit.

U2's ticket prices in '97 were in line with, if not less than, most acts. The fact that prices ranged from $35-57.50 actually made U2 fairly cheap! Bee Gees, for example, were over $100 for tickets. I recall doing some homework back in '97 and U2 were indeed on the lower end. Fans were just shocked because they were used to the $25-35 price range, not $57.

And, while U2 did receive $100M, I have a feeling that was to pay their entire crew as well as themselves. That is, I doubt Bono, Edge, Larry, Adam and Paul McG each got $20M from that tour. I'm sure they made millions, but not as much after paying staff, crew, props, transportation, etc. This is why T-shirts and other souvenirs sales at shows help bands so much.
Only a small number of the tickets, about 5,000 per show, were at the 37.50 price. The vast majority of tickets were at the 52.50 price and the average ticket price was still a little over $50 dollars and in the Spring of 1997, this was the highest average ticket priced charged for a STADIUM TOUR in history. The Bee Gees may have charged $100 dollars for some of their tickets, but the Bee Gees were not playing 60,000 seat stadiums, at least not in the United States. They were playing 10,000-15,000 seat arena's. As the venue gets smaller, the number of tickets available gets smaller as well, which increases demand and increases the price of those tickets.

Its true that in 1994, the Eagles had some high priced tickets, but the average was not $100 dollars and most shows were in Arena's rather than stadiums. Pink Floyd also had some ticket prices in the $70 dollar and $80 dollar range, but the average ticket price for Pink Floyd's 1994 Division Bell Stadium tour was $34 dollars, well below the average for POPMART. The Stones Voodoo Lounge Tour average ticket price was just slightly below what U2 charged on POPMART.

The average ticket price in the concert industry regardless of venue was still in the 30 dollar back in 1997. While there were certainly some tickets priced at $100 dollars or more for some artist playing theaters or arena's back in 1997, NO one in the industry had ever had an average ticket price as high as U2's for a stadium tour ever. That of course changed in August of 1997 when the Stones launched their Bridges To Babylon tour, but in the Spring of 1997, U2's average ticket price was the highest anyone had ever seen for concerts in stadiums.


U2's crew is included in the cost of the tour. POPMART cost 214,000 dollars every day that the tour was on the road. Paying the staff, crew, props, transportation, venues, promoter, is all apart of the daily cost. The POPMART tour GROSSED $171 million dollars. Michael Cohl payed the band $100 million dollars, and still had plenty of money to pay for the cost of the tour. Bono, Edge, Adam, Larry, and Paul each walked away with 20 plus million dollars from that tour, their biggest pay day ever thanks to the business deals made a couple of years earlier which included Michael Cohl taking control of the entire tour as well as all the risk, and paying the band a nice sum of money, just as he had been doing with the Stones earlier.

U2 still works with Michael Cohl's promotion company TNA, because its simply the best deal out there. The deals with Michael Cohl over the past 10 years have helped to probably more than double the wealth of the band from just the money made from touring.
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Old 11-24-2006, 07:49 PM   #11
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I got some information from U2faqs.com.

1. U2 tours by the numbers


1985: The Unforgettable Fire tour was the 18th highest grossing tour of the year, covering 30 cities.
1987: The Joshua Tree tour was the top grossing tour with 79 shows in 50 cities.
1992: Zoo TV was the top grossing tour with 73 shows in 61 cities.
1997: PopMart was the second highest grossing tour in the U.S. at $79.9 million with 46 shows in 37 cities. A total of 1.7 million tickets were sold in the U.S.
2001: The Elevation Tour was reported as a sell out at all 113 shows throughout three legs in North America and Europe. The tour grossed $109.7 million USD in North America, making it the highest-grossing tour of 2001 and the second highest of all time, behind only the Rolling Stones' Voodoo Lounge Tour of 1994.
2005: The Vertigo Tour was reported as a sellout through all 60 shows of the first two legs in North America and Europe. The tour grossed more than $204 million over those two legs.
Note: International tour figures are unknown.

So The Unforgettable fire tour did make money in US. Does anybody know how much? And did they also make money from the UF 2nd leg in december 1984 also in America?

The Joshua Tree tour grossed $34.7 milion in America and ZOO TV $67.1 milion.
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sorry, someone can post the gross and attendance of the South America 's shows of Popmart? THANX!
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I've read in Pimm's book that tickets in America for Popmart where $52.50, for Zoo TV Outside broadcast $30,-- and for Joshua tree $16,50 and $19,50.

Does anybody knows how much the tickets where for the Unforgettable fire tour in America? And for The Elevation Tour?
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I paid $100 AUD for each of my GA tickets for U2 at a stadium... earlier this year I paid $120 for GA at Coldplay, admittedly in a smaller venue.

Still not sure that adds up...
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Inspired by the "Total vertigo tour boxscore figures to date" and the "attendance at all POpmart show" threat, I decided to do the following for the other tours. All the figures I have came from Pimm's 'U2 Live' So the lists are not complete. If anybody have the available figures... your welcome.

First The American war tour.

War 2nd leg
1. Chapel Hill April 23, 1983 Kenan Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 4,000

2. Norfolk April 24, 1983 Chrysler Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

3. College Park April 25, 1983 Ritchie Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

4. Auburn April 27, 1983 Cayhuga Country Community College Gym GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 500

5. Rochester April 28, 1983 Rochester Institute Of Technology Ice Rink GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

6. Dehli April 29, 1983 State University Of New York GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

7. Providence April 30, 1983 Brown University GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

8. Stony Brook May 1, 1983 Unknown GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

9. Pittsburgh May 3, 1983 Fulton Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

10, 11. Boston May 5-6, 1983 The Orpheum Theater two shows combined GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 5,600

12. Albany May 7, 1983 State University Of New York GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

13. Hartford May 8, 1983 Trinity College GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 500

14. New Heaven May 10, 1983 Woolsey Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

15. New York May 11, 1983 Palladium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,400

16. Passaic May 12, 1983 Capitol Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 2,000

17, 18. Philadelphia May 13-14, 1983 Tower Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 6,000

19. Buffalo May 16, 1983 Shea Center GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

20. Toronto May 17, 1983 Massey Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 2,689

21. Cleveland May 19, 1983 Music Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,000

22. Detroit May 20, 1983 Grand Circus Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

23. Chicago May 21, 1983 Aragon Ballroom GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 4,000

24. Minneapolis May 22, 1983 Northrop Auditorium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,672

25. Vancouver May 25, 1983 Queen Elisabeth Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 2,845

26. Seattle May 26, 1983 Paramount Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,000

27. Portland May 27, 1983 Paramount Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 2,500

28. Devore May 30, 1983 Glen Helen Regional Park GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 125,000

29. San Francisco June 1, 1983 Civic Auditorium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE : 6.359

30. Salt Lake City June 3, 1983 Salt Palace Assembley Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

31. Denver June 5, 1983 Red Rocks Amphitheater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 9,000

32. Boulder June 6, 1983 University of Colorado GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

33. Wichita June 7, 1983 Unknown GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

34. Kansas City June 8, 1983 Memorial Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,000

35. Tulsa June 9, 1983 The Brady Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

36. Norman June 10, 1983 Lloyd Noble Center, U of Oklahoma GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 2,000

37. Austin June 11, 1983 The Meadows GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

38. Dallas June 13, 1983 Bronco Bowl GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

39. Houston June 14, 1983 Music Hall GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

40. Los Angeles June 17, 1938 Sports Arena GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 9,633

41. Orlando June 21, 1983 Jai Alai Fronton Hall GROSS : ? ATTENDANCE: 3,029

42. Tampa June 22, 1983 Curtis Hixon Convention Center GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 3,702

43. Miami June 23, 1983 Sunrise Music Theater GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

44. Jacksonville June 24, 1983 Civic Auditorium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

45. Atlanta June 25, 1983 Civic Center GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 8,000

46. New Heaven June 27, 1983 Coliseum GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 5,695

47. Worchester June 28, 1983 The Centrum GROSS: $116,145 ATTENDANCE: 10,329

48. New York June 29, 1983 Pier 84 GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?

2ND LEG OF WAR: 48 SHOWS
GROSS $1,750,000 ATTENDANCE 175,000
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