bomb sales in us

[monai2]

anyone know how many copies bomb sold in the states now after the last number was 3115000 k whith bomb now still top 300 on the amazon.com

 

[Grindstone]

sales

soundscan sales are: 3,151,143

 

[monai2]

where are you find this number?

 

[Grindstone]

i work in the industry and have access to soundscan

 

[STING2]

i work in the industry and have access to soundscan

How many copies did it sell in the most recent week sales data is available?

 

[Grindstone]

I'm not where I can access it now, but it was pretty consistantly scanning about 2500 per week

 

[STING2]

I'm not where I can access it now, but it was pretty consistantly scanning about 2500 per week

Interesting, let us know when you can get an exact figure for the latest week.

Actually, if it would not be to much to ask, it would be interesting to see the latest weeks figures for each of the U2 albums or at least a few of them. It would be interesting to see how the U2 albums stack up against each other in a given week during a period that is, how should I say, a rather quiet time promotion wise, at least in the continental United States.

THANKS!

 

[edge3]

Thx for the update ! 15 wks ago, when it was last on the BB top 200, Bomb's SoundScan total was 3,107,132. So, if this new total is for right up to last week, then it's sold another 44,011 in these last 15 wks at an average of 2,934 copies per week - not too bad going !

 

[Grindstone]

yep, Bomb did 2116 last week, staying pretty consistant at just above 2,000 per week.

as for the catalog, soundscan doesn't really help pre-early 90's because it wasn't in as many stores back then. So anything say before Achtung Baby is likely not even close to the real numbers (and back then very few indie stores had soundscan too).

but just for the records here are the totals:

BOY - 383,540
OCTOBER - 358,248
WAR - 1,412,903
UNFORGETTABLE FIRE - 864,168
JOSHUA TREE - 3,077,815
RATTLE & HUM - 1,196,162
ACHTUNG BABY - 5,439,162
ZOOROPA - 2,331,773
POP - 1,497,032
ALL THAT YOU CANT LEAVE - 4,283,170

Vertigo Chicago DVD - 265,654
Slane Castle DVD - 243,163
Elevation Live DVD - 243,236 (amazing only 73 more copies than Slane!)

worth noting, the Complete U2 Digital Box set has scanned 32, 408. Pretty impressive there too.

it's too much of a pain to look up every single on per week's scans (and not really worth it) but to give a sense, ATYCLB scanned about 750, Achtung Baby 600 last week; Joshua Tree 1500 (wow); and Boy 250 in a week.

 

[Soldatti]

Great info Grindstone!
Thanks a lot for these numbers.

 

[STING2]

yep, Bomb did 2116 last week, staying pretty consistant at just above 2,000 per week.

as for the catalog, soundscan doesn't really help pre-early 90's because it wasn't in as many stores back then. So anything say before Achtung Baby is likely not even close to the real numbers (and back then very few indie stores had soundscan too).

but just for the records here are the totals:

BOY - 383,540
OCTOBER - 358,248
WAR - 1,412,903
UNFORGETTABLE FIRE - 864,168
JOSHUA TREE - 3,077,815
RATTLE & HUM - 1,196,162
ACHTUNG BABY - 5,439,162
ZOOROPA - 2,331,773
POP - 1,497,032
ALL THAT YOU CANT LEAVE - 4,283,170

Vertigo Chicago DVD - 265,654
Slane Castle DVD - 243,163
Elevation Live DVD - 243,236 (amazing only 73 more copies than Slane!)

worth noting, the Complete U2 Digital Box set has scanned 32, 408. Pretty impressive there too.

it's too much of a pain to look up every single on per week's scans (and not really worth it) but to give a sense, ATYCLB scanned about 750, Achtung Baby 600 last week; Joshua Tree 1500 (wow); and Boy 250 in a week.

Thank You for this fantastic update of Soundscan information for U2.

What does the Best of 1980-1990, both versions, scan in a single week usually?

Also, one non-U2 item, The Police "Every Breath You Take: The Classics" and "Synchronicity", if you could find a single week sales figure for those two titles, that would be very interesting to see.


So for average weekly scans for U2 albums we have:

Boy 250
Joshua Tree 1,500
Achtung Baby 600
ATYCLB 750


There was a time back in the early 1990s when Joshua Tree was selling about 10,000 a week in the USA. But that was before the Best Of came out and before the internet, file sharing, CD burning, and all those things that have reduced sales across the market.

Interesting to see that Achtung Baby is only selling about 1/3 of what the Joshua Tree is selling.

Thanks again for all of this information!

 

[edge3]

Thx again for posting these new figures Grindstone - great !

Btw, just to compare, here's what the figures were as at Dec 2005 :

Boy - 371,000
October - 349,000
War - 1,406,000
Under A Blood Red Sky - 622,000
The Unforgettable Fire - 864,000
Wide Awake In America - 192,000
The Joshua Tree - 3,036,000
Rattle And Hum - 1,182,000
Achtung Baby - 5,414,000
Zooropa - 2,327,000
Pop - 1,493,000
All That You Can't Leave Behind - 4,253,000

Sting2, Hi! 'fraid i don't know about those Police figures but i know Best Of 80-90 re-entered the BB top 50 catalogue chart last week at # 39. So i would think it sold about another 3-4k.

 

[STING2]

Well, with Dec 2005 figures and now July 2006 figures, we can do a little comparison on how U2 albums did against each other over the past 7 months. This is how they rank, starting with the best selling:

1. Joshua Tree 41,815
2. ATYCLB 30,170
3. Achtung Baby 25,162
4. Rattle And Hum 14,162
5. Boy 12,540
6. October 9,248
7. WAR 6,903
8. Zooropa 4,773
9. POP 4,032
10. Unforgettable Fire 168



hmmm, I'm not so sure about the dates reported for these figures. 168 copies sold for UF over the past 7 months? That is totally inaccurate. As a matter of fact, I think the entire list above may not be accurate representation of sales for the past 7 months. I think the totals reported by Grindstone may have had some older totals from months earlier, and the Dec 2005 list may have had some totals that were a little earlier than that date as well. So the above list is probably totally inaccurate.

 

[edge3]

Unforgettable Fire obviously isn't right. Here's the average per week sales based on the above numbers, over the last 28 wks :

1. Joshua Tree - 41,815 = 1,493 (per week)
2. ATYCLB - 30,170 = 1,078
3. Achtung Baby - 25,162 = 899
4. Rattle And Hum - 14,162 = 506
5. Boy - 12,540 = 448
6. October - 9,248 = 330
7. WAR - 6,903 = 247
8. Zooropa - 4,773 = 170
9. POP - 4,032 = 144

& here's what we earlier decided a few of them were over the last couple of years (before Dec 2005) :

"As of January 11, 2004 this is where these U2 albums stood on soundscan:


The Joshua Tree = 2,801,705
Achtung Baby = 5,336,562
Pop = 1,479,901
Best of U2 ('80-'90) = 2,121,922
All That You Can't... = 4,132,538


As of November 2003:

WAR = 1,311,000

As of May 2005:

Rattle And Hum 1,114,000

Average weekly sales based on the above information/ the average for the past 2 years except Rattle and Hum past 7 months:

WAR = 950

Joshua Tree = 2,343

Rattle And Hum = 2,267

Achtung Baby = 775

POP = 131

All That You Can't Leave.... = 1,205

Rattle And Hum's figures are a bit high compared to the other albums because the weeks involved are only the last half of 2005 with U2 on tour and promoting a new album. The figures for the other albums involve a time period that starts 8 to 10 months prior to the BOMB promotion period and tour and then goes through that up until now.

What I found really interesting is that over the last 2 years, WAR has been outselling Achtung Baby here in the United States. "All That You Can't Leave Behind" has yet to loose its sales steem relative to other U2 albums more than 5 years after its release. Only the Joshua Tree has sold more consistently over the past 2 years for U2. Who would have thought 5 years ago that All That You Can't Leave Behind would turn into the 2nd best selling catalog U2 album 5 years later on a weekly basis.

People still go out and buy the POP album. A little over 13,000 people in the USA have purchased POP over the past 2 years."

So the average weekly sales of War (247 per week from 950), JT (1,493 from 2,343) & R&H (506 from 2,267) seem to have dramatically reduced ( ) whilst those of AB (899 from 775), Pop (144 from 131) & ATCYLB (1,078 from 1,205) seem to have remained fairly constant.

 

[STING2]

Unforgettable Fire obviously isn't right. Here's the average per week sales based on the above numbers, over the last 28 wks :

1. Joshua Tree - 41,815 = 1,493 (per week)
2. ATYCLB - 30,170 = 1,078
3. Achtung Baby - 25,162 = 899
4. Rattle And Hum - 14,162 = 506
5. Boy - 12,540 = 448
6. October - 9,248 = 330
7. WAR - 6,903 = 247
8. Zooropa - 4,773 = 170
9. POP - 4,032 = 144

& here's what we earlier decided a few of them were over the last couple of years (before Dec 2005) :

"As of January 11, 2004 this is where these U2 albums stood on soundscan:


The Joshua Tree = 2,801,705
Achtung Baby = 5,336,562
Pop = 1,479,901
Best of U2 ('80-'90) = 2,121,922
All That You Can't... = 4,132,538


As of November 2003:

WAR = 1,311,000

As of May 2005:

Rattle And Hum 1,114,000

Average weekly sales based on the above information/ the average for the past 2 years except Rattle and Hum past 7 months:

WAR = 950

Joshua Tree = 2,343

Rattle And Hum = 2,267

Achtung Baby = 775

POP = 131

All That You Can't Leave.... = 1,205

Rattle And Hum's figures are a bit high compared to the other albums because the weeks involved are only the last half of 2005 with U2 on tour and promoting a new album. The figures for the other albums involve a time period that starts 8 to 10 months prior to the BOMB promotion period and tour and then goes through that up until now.

What I found really interesting is that over the last 2 years, WAR has been outselling Achtung Baby here in the United States. "All That You Can't Leave Behind" has yet to loose its sales steem relative to other U2 albums more than 5 years after its release. Only the Joshua Tree has sold more consistently over the past 2 years for U2. Who would have thought 5 years ago that All That You Can't Leave Behind would turn into the 2nd best selling catalog U2 album 5 years later on a weekly basis.

People still go out and buy the POP album. A little over 13,000 people in the USA have purchased POP over the past 2 years."

So the average weekly sales of War (247 per week from 950), JT (1,493 from 2,343) & R&H (506 from 2,267) seem to have dramatically reduced ( ) whilst those of AB (899 from 775), Pop (144 from 131) & ATCYLB (1,078 from 1,205) seem to have remained fairly constant.

I agree, the success of ATYCLB relative to U2's other albums is remarkable. Its true though that only two of its songs were put on the Best of 1990-2000 meaning its suffers a little less from the effects of the release of a popular compulation than the other albums do.

There was a time back in the early 1990s when the Joshua Tree would sale as much as 10,000 copies or more per week. The sales rates seen above, primarily in the hundreds, are so low, that its unlikely will see new certifications for many of these albums for a long time. Despite the fact that ATYCLB is selling well relative to the rest of the U2 catalog, at the current rate of sales, its still more than a decade away from hitting the 5 million mark.

Album sales continue to decline all across the market, and older albums are harder hit by the new realities of CD Burning, File Sharing, and other ways of obtaining music quickly for free.

 

[edge3]

Well, in 2004 their back catalogue sold 758,000 in total in the US according to SoundScan. That's an average of 14,577 copies sold per week or 1,041 copies sold per week per album (14 albums incl. Wide Awake In America, both Best Of's counted together as single discs).

Last year, with the tour, this figure went up to 922,000 back catalogue albums sold in total at 17,731 copies sold per week or 1,267 copies sold per week per album.

 

[edge3]

(14 albums incl. Wide Awake In America, both Best Of's counted together as single discs).

just to be clear, i mean both versions of each Best Of counted together as 1 album. So :

1. Boy
2. October
3. War
4. UABRS
5. Unforgettable Fire
6. Wide Awake In America
7. Joshua Tree
8. Rattle & Hum
9. Achtung Baby
10. Zooropa
11. Pop
12. Best Of 80-90 (both versions)
13. ATYCLB
14. Best Of 90-00 (both versions)

 

[STING2]

Well, in 2004 their back catalogue sold 758,000 in total in the US according to SoundScan. That's an average of 14,577 copies sold per week or 1,041 copies sold per week per album (14 albums incl. Wide Awake In America, both Best Of's counted together as single discs).

Last year, with the tour, this figure went up to 922,000 back catalogue albums sold in total at 17,731 copies sold per week or 1,267 copies sold per week per album.

There were some weeks back in the early 1990s when the Joshua Tree would sell over 15,000 copies for the week and would have been in the top 100 if it was not a catalog album. Indeed a big change, but its a sign of the times because the reduction in sales is seen all across the industry.

 

[edge3]

There were some weeks back in the early 1990s when the Joshua Tree would sell over 15,000 copies for the week and would have been in the top 100 if it was not a catalog album. Indeed a big change, but its a sign of the times because the reduction in sales is seen all across the industry.

From last weeks MusicWeek :

US album sales lowest for 12 years
28 July 2006 - 11:24:34

Sales in America last week reached a 12-year low, hitting a little less than 9m, writes Alan Jones.

Only six albums sold more than 50,000 copies, 90 hit the 10,000 mark and the number 200 album sold just 4,208 copies. In a bleak week, sales were down 12.6% on the same seven days in 2005, and at their lowest ebb since January 1994.

 

[STING2]

From last weeks MusicWeek :

US album sales lowest for 12 years
28 July 2006 - 11:24:34

Sales in America last week reached a 12-year low, hitting a little less than 9m, writes Alan Jones.

Only six albums sold more than 50,000 copies, 90 hit the 10,000 mark and the number 200 album sold just 4,208 copies. In a bleak week, sales were down 12.6% on the same seven days in 2005, and at their lowest ebb since January 1994.

But back in the early 1990s, you typically needed to sell about 15,000 copies to be in the top 100. It would only go up to 20,000 to make the top 40, and then about 50,000 to make the top 10. I would say there was more of an even distribution in sales across the chart positions back then. #200 was 5,000 copies normally.

Just look at U2's certifications between 1988 and 1995 and you'll see that this was the strongest period for U2's catalog sales. The Joshua Tree spent almost all of the early 1990s in the top 50 of the Catalog chart. When was the last time we saw the Joshua Tree enter the top 50 of the catalog chart since that time period though?

 

[edge3]

The Joshua Tree spent almost all of the early 1990s in the top 50 of the Catalog chart. When was the last time we saw the Joshua Tree enter the top 50 of the catalog chart since that time period though?

Here's it's full run on the BB catalogue top 50 to date :

THE JOSHUA TREE

Date: 02/11/1991 - Run: 47 (1 wk)
Re #01: 11/01/1992 48-49-44-37-37-37-37-33-30-27-24-19-15-17-20-20-19-20-21-21-24-23-16-22-20-21-22-18-19-20-17-20-20-16-12-11-11- 10-12- *9*-9-10-10-10-14-24-13-21-33-33-34- (52 wsf)
02/01/1993: 29-21-17-30-27-19-21-27-25-22-24-25-31-28-25-27-28-30-27-27-26-23-24-27-24-24-25-23-18-12-14-16-13-15-16-20-15-17-19-17-15-16-30-23-28-30-24-34-41-0-0-0-0- (101 wsf)
08/01/1994: 44-33-28-27-25-27-29-32-34-29-29-30-30-30-36-39-37-44-42-41-37-36-32-33-36-40-39-35-23-23-27-26-32-28-30-28-32-29-32-34-33-38-40-42 (144-100c/6-5c wks, 145 wsf)
Re #02: 21/01/1995 42-44-33-29-31-32-33-31-34-35-28-34-40-41-44-0-40-42-46-46-41-34-35-37-41-37-34-32-26-27-36-36-35-35-29-33-27-26-30-29-22-25-27-40-0-37 (44-28c wks, 189 wsf)
Re #03: 20/01/1996 44-37-34-35-35-37-41-45-48-0-50-43-0-0-37-37-35-47-47-50-38-41-0-0-0-39-41-42-50-46-36-43-39-40-44 (29-10c wks, 218 wsf)
Re #04: 01/03/1997 43-32-37-14-19-28-41-0-37-44-43-27-38-32-24-19-30-37-32-32-33-34-46 (22-15c wks, 240 wsf)
Re #05: 23/02/2002 14-29-0-31-44 (4-2c wks, 244 wsf)
Re #06: 30/04/2005 40-42 (2 wks)
Total # of re-entries: 14
Total # of weeks: 246-100c (Top 10: 6-5c, Top 20: 48 Top 40: 204)

So yes, it was really quite dominant in the early to mid 90's &/or untill The Best Of 80-90 was released in ' 98 & therefore started taking away it's sales. Seems it was last on the top 50 in April of last year, though only for 2 wks.

 

[Mirrorball06]

i work in the industry and have access to soundscan

So did you have or can you find out the weekly soundscan data for Achtung Baby, Zooropa, Pop and the both versions of the Best 0f 80-90?