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Old 08-30-2005, 01:22 AM   #16
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Some of these figures have been given favourable treatment over the past 8 years. Some numbers are 3-5,000 off. Also, other shows may have "papered the house" with free tickets to corporate.... Just divide show gross with attendance and notice differences.

The worst attendance thing I've ever heard about the 1997 tour - The second philadelphia show as cancelled after only 4,000 tickets(50,000 capacity) had been sold. I can see why the press had a field day at their expense.

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Some of these figures have been given favourable treatment over the past 8 years. Some numbers are 3-5,000 off. Also, other shows may have "papered the house" with free tickets to corporate.... Just divide show gross with attendance and notice differences.

The worst attendance thing I've ever heard about the 1997 tour - The second philadelphia show as cancelled after only 4,000 tickets(50,000 capacity) had been sold. I can see why the press had a field day at their expense.

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Some of these figures have been given favourable treatment over the past 8 years. Some numbers are 3-5,000 off. Also, other shows may have "papered the house" with free tickets to corporate.... Just divide show gross with attendance and notice differences.

The worst attendance thing I've ever heard about the 1997 tour - The second philadelphia show as cancelled after only 4,000 tickets(50,000 capacity) had been sold. I can see why the press had a field day at their expense.

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71 of the shows are EXACT numbers from AMUSEMENT BUSINESS. AMUSEMENT BUSINESS has tracked and reported official figures for Concert Attendance and GROSS since 1977 for North America and Worldwide figures since 1995. Their reports are featured in Billboard Magazine every week in Billboard Boxscore chart. AMUSEMENT BUSINESS figures are NOT estimates, they are the exact figure for the shows. I got these figures from when the shows were posted from Amusement Business on www.billboard.com or in Billboard magazine back in 1997 as the figures gradually became available, typically a couple of weeks after the performances had taken place.

Despite the fact that I was not able to get all of the figures for every show, I was able to obtain the total attendance and gross for each leg of the tour because Amusement Business reported it in their weekly summeries of the concert industry.

The report of only 4,000 tickets being sold for the second Philadelphia show was reported in Rolling Stone Magazine but did not have a source, so its unknown whether that is really an accurate figure or not. It is true that the band played a few shows with as little as 15,000 to 20,000, roughly the break even point for the show. Philadelphia #2 was cancelled after only 10 days probably because the promoters felt they risked not being able to reach that number. In any event, the first show eventually achieved a sellout and was the 2nd highest GROSSING and 2nd highest attended show of the year in Philadelphia in 1997 just behind the Rolling Stones performance later in the year, who I might add only played 1 show in Philadelphia and did not attempt to put on a second show.

Attendance numbers are ONLY for tickets that were purchased by some entity whether they be individual fans, a corporation or the bands management. Differences from dividing show gross by attendance come from the fact that there were two different price levels for the show, $52.50 and $37.50. Shows with smaller attendance will typically have a slightly larger ratio of $37.50 tickets vs. $52.50 tickets, as the seats that often did not sell were the $52.50 priced tickets toward the rear and on the upper deck of the stadiums.
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Why was it reported that Island(?) records was buying thousands concert tickets at face value?

I think this was from the Rolling Stone article where it talked about island firing their entire PR staff soon after POP's shelf life was mostly over.

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So, if they dit that back in 1997, what should they do (or Interscope for that matter) now? Kill the entire PR staff?
At least in the Pop era all of the singles were properly marketed.
Not the joke we have now.

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Why was it reported that Island(?) records was buying thousands concert tickets at face value?

I think this was from the Rolling Stone article where it talked about island firing their entire PR staff soon after POP's shelf life was mostly over.

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Why was it reported that Island(?) records was buying thousands concert tickets at face value?

I think this was from the Rolling Stone article where it talked about island firing their entire PR staff soon after POP's shelf life was mostly over.

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I've never heard of Island records doing that and it would not make sense for the record company to do that. Michael Cohl was promoting the tour and had already guaranteed the band $100 million dollars. Michael Cohl is also the promoter for the Rolling Stones and Pink Floyd. He had beaten out to large promotion companies for the right to promote U2 one year earlier in 1996. U2 went with Michael Cohl because he was willing to take all the risk if the tour had trouble breaking even, an unlikely event but always possible.

As it turned out the tour GROSSED enough for Michael Cohl to pay the band the $100 million dollars without having to dip into his own profits from the tour as well as his rather large financial resources from previous tours and other business dealings. Any attempt to purchase more tickets for the tour to give away for free would have been done by Michael Cohl not Island records. Island Records has had essentially no serious role in promoting or financing U2 tours since the early 1980s.

I think I heard an article about reductions in the staff at Island records and some alleged it had something to do with sales of POP in the USA, but this was unlikely and I have not seen anything to confirm that.

Lets remember that POP was one of the 20 biggest selling albums worldwide in 1997 selling 5.5 million copies, definitely not up to U2's standards, but certainly nothing close to being a flop measured against the rest of the industry. The USA was the market that was the most difficult though with sales for 1997 coming in at 1.5 million for POP in the USA. The album finished at #48 on the year end chart for the USA. The album overall did a little less than what Zooropa did in 1993. While sales were disapointing because of U2's previous highs, they were not a disaster as many in the media mistakenly alleged.

A word about sources. Rolling Stone often does have excellent articles on the music scene, but when it comes to the music business, the only source to be consulted are Billboard and Amusement Business. Occasionly, Rolling Stone will be inaccurate or incomplete when it comes to discussing certain statistics and other aspects of the business. Thats only natural since Rolling Stone is not a magazine exclusively about the business like Billboard is.
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U2 played to 62,000 people at that stadium in 1992 on ZOO TV.

But, the Rolling Stones on their Bridges To Babylon toured played this very same stadium a few months after U2 did on POPMART and were only able to get an attendance of 27,000 back in 1997.
I saw that show as well. My parents had such a great time seeing U2 there that they took me to see the Rolling Stones there as well.
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So, if they dit that back in 1997, what should they do (or Interscope for that matter) now? Kill the entire PR staff?
At least in the Pop era all of the singles were properly marketed.
Not the joke we have now.


I couldn't agree more. One could even argue that "Pop" simply didn't catch on with the public due to relatively low initial sales. That's not true for HTDAAB at all. Sales were well over 2M in the U.S. in mere weeks. But they haven't yet crossed 3M. Why? Perhaps because the entire marketing staff has done NOTHING whatsoever to continue marketing U2's songs?! If I were U2, I'd be furious at the utter lack of promotion for this album since it was released.
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Lets remember that POP was one of the 20 biggest selling albums worldwide in 1997 selling 5.5 million copies, definitely not up to U2's standards, but certainly nothing close to being a flop measured against the rest of the industry. The USA was the market that was the most difficult though with sales for 1997 coming in at 1.5 million for POP in the USA. The album finished at #48 on the year end chart for the USA. The album overall did a little less than what Zooropa did in 1993. While sales were disapointing because of U2's previous highs, they were not a disaster as many in the media mistakenly alleged.
Is this really right?

We all know that "Zooropa" has sold around 2.3M per SoundScan. "Pop" sold just shy of 1.5M per SoundScan. Easily the bulk of these sales occurred in the first year the album was released. So I'd argue "Zooropa" sold probably over 2M copies in 1993, while "Pop" struggled to hit 1.3M. That is a substantial difference.

Nonetheless, your overall point is right. Just yesterday I heard praise thrown at R. Kelly for having another Platinum album. But "Pop" also went Platinum - yet everyone calls it a failure. Hmmm...
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Is this really right?

We all know that "Zooropa" has sold around 2.3M per SoundScan. "Pop" sold just shy of 1.5M per SoundScan. Easily the bulk of these sales occurred in the first year the album was released. So I'd argue "Zooropa" sold probably over 2M copies in 1993, while "Pop" struggled to hit 1.3M. That is a substantial difference.

Nonetheless, your overall point is right. Just yesterday I heard praise thrown at R. Kelly for having another Platinum album. But "Pop" also went Platinum - yet everyone calls it a failure. Hmmm...
The Soundscan figure at the end of 1997 for POP in the USA was 1.3 million. At that time Soundscan covered 85% of the market. So considering sales not covered by Soundscan plus total shipments, I would say the album did about 1.5 million in the USA during 1997.

There was an article in Billboard in early 1998 talking about the disappoint of many at Island that POP had only sold 5.5 million worldwide when they thought they were going to do 10 million for sure. Still, as I said before, having one of the 20 biggest selling albums of the year is not bad at all.
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I recently obtained a book on this issue, after someone here at Interference recommended it. I can't recall the name, but it listened everything about every concert U2 has ever performed. I want to say it was called "U2: Live".

Anyway, the majority of stadiums sold between 1/4 to 3/4 of capacity. This was a huge surprise considering even the first 10 or 15 shows weren't sell-outs. This makes me think that it was the new direction in music, not ticket prices or criticisms of the stage show.
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I recently obtained a book on this issue, after someone here at Interference recommended it. I can't recall the name, but it listened everything about every concert U2 has ever performed. I want to say it was called "U2: Live".

Anyway, the majority of stadiums sold between 1/4 to 3/4 of capacity. This was a huge surprise considering even the first 10 or 15 shows weren't sell-outs. This makes me think that it was the new direction in music, not ticket prices or criticisms of the stage show.
I think the book you just got is called "U2 LIVE A CONCERT DOCUMENTARY: Its by Pimm Jal De La Parra. The figures presented here are the same figures that are in the book. All figures come from "Amusement Business" which tracks the concert industry worldwide.

Also, on average for the first leg, most shows had 2/3 to 3/4 of their capacities, 12 shows were sellouts. There were only a small number of shows on the entire tour that only had 1/4 of their capacity filled, that level of attendance was rare.

Tickets for the entire tour went on sale in mid-February several weeks before the album was even released. Regardless, ticket prices and criticisms of the stage show were actually rather minor reasons why the band struggled to fill up the stadiums where as five years earlier on ZOO TV it was comparitively easy. Indeed, many casual fans did not like the new album and did not buy it and were not interested in seeing the new, more expensive show.

Regardless one has to realize that the band were still successful in playing to many full stadiums or soldout stadiums in North America. Every show in Canada soldout with the exception of Vancouver. POPMART was the the highest grossing tour worldwide in 1997 and at that time it was also the second highest grossing tour in history, despite several poorly attended shows.
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1. Las Vegas April 25, 1997 Sam Boyd Stadium
GROSS: $1,866,524 ATTENDANCE: 36,742(Sellout)

2. San Diego April 28, 1997 Jack Murphy Stadium GROSS: $1,545,990 ATTENDANCE: 30,572(cap: 40,000)

3. Denver May 1, 1997 Mile High Stadium
GROSS: $1,432,965 ATTENDANCE: 28,540(cap: 45,000)

4. Salt Lake City May 3, 1997 Rice Stadium
GROSS: $1,692,732 ATTENDANCE: 33,277(Sellout)

5. Eugene May 6, 1997 Autzen Stadium
GROSS: $1,293,540 ATTENDANCE: 25,931(cap:30,000)

6. Tempe May 9, 1997 Sun Devil Stadium
GROSS: $1,673,317 ATTENDANCE: 33,539(cap: 40-45,000)

7. Dallas May 12, 1997 Cotton Bowl
GROSS: $1,908,637 ATTENDANCE: 38,043(cap: 45,000)

8. Memphis May 14, 1997 Liberty Bowl
GROSS: $1,131,570 ATTENDANCE: 22,734(cap: 35,000)

9. Clemson May 16, 1997 Frank Howard Memorial
Stadium GROSS: $1,043,349 ATTENDANCE: 20,251(cap: 36,000)

10. Kansas May 19, 1997 Arrowhead Stadium
GROSS: $1,201,035 ATTENDANCE: 23,709(cap: 38,500)

11. Pittsburgh May 22, 1997 Three Rivers Stadium GROSS: $1,376,317 ATTENDANCE: 27,785(cap: 40,000)

12. Columbus May 24, 1997 Ohio Stadium
GROSS: $2,246,977 ATTENDANCE: 43,873(cap: 50,000)

13. Washington DC May 26, 1997 RFK Stadium
GROSS: $2,149,432 ATTENDANCE: 42,295(cap: 44,000)

(Raleigh May 29 - cancelled "screen is broken")

14, 15, 16. East Rutherford May 31-June 1,3, 1997 Giants Stadium 3 shows combined GROSS: $6,499,131 ATTENDANCE: 129,644(cap: 140,000)(sellouts X 2?)

(June 7th(?) Philadelphia#2 - cancelled 10 days after onsale)

17. Philadelphia June 8, 1997 Franklin Field
GROSS: $2,549,610 ATTENDANCE: 49,944(sellout)

18. Winnipeg June 12, 1997 Winnipeg Stadium
GROSS: $1,653,884 ATTENDANCE: 42,270(sellout)

19, 20. Edmonton June 14-15, 1997 Commonwealth Stadium 2 shows combined GROSS: $3,493,456 ATTENDANCE: 90,000(sellouts X 2)

21, 22. Oakland June 18-19, 1997 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum 2 shows combined GROSS: $3,263,243 ATTENDANCE: 66,990(cap: 85,000) (sellout X 1)

23. Los Angeles June 21, 1997 Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum GROSS: $3,329,775 ATTENDANCE: 65,488(sellout)

24. Madison June 25, 1997 Camp Randall Stadium GROSS: $1,701,045 ATTENDANCE: 34,002(cap: 40,000)

25, 26, 27. Chicago June 27,28,29, 1997 Soldier Field 3 shows combined GROSS: $5,956,587 ATTENDANCE: 116,972(cap: 127,500) (Sellouts X 2?)

28, 29. Foxboro July 1-2, 1997 Foxboro Stadium 2 shows combined GROSS: $4,789,124 ATTENDANCE: 93,946(sellouts X 2)

1ST LEG OF POPMART: 29 SHOWS
GROSS: $53,798,240 ATTENDANCE: 1,096,547
AVERAGE GROSS: $1,855,112 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 37,812




POPMART TOUR 2ND LEG: EUROPE 32 SHOWS

30, 31. Rotterdam July 18-19, 1997 Feyenoord Stadium 2 shows combined GROSS: $3,214,484 ATTENDANCE: 91,832(sellout X 2)

32. Werchter July 25, 1997 Festival Grounds GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 38,000(unconfirmed estimate)
(U2 LIVE: 45,000) (sellout)

33. Cologne July 27, 1997 Butzweiler Hof GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 29,000(unconfirmed estimate)(cap: 60,000)

34. Leipzig July 29, 1997 Festweise GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 18,500(unconfirmed estimate)(cap:70,000)

35. Mannheim July 31, 1997 Maimarkt GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 25,000(unconfirmed estimate)(cap: 80,000)

36. Gouhenburg August 2, 1997 Ullevi Stadion GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 48,008(unconfirmed estimate)
(U2 LIVE: 48,006) (cap: 50,000)

37. Copenhagen August 4, 1997 Parken Stadium GROSS: $2,079,137 ATTENDANCE: 42,734(sellout)

38. Oslo August 6, 1997 Vallehovin GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?
(U2 LIVE: 38 000) (sellout)

39. Helsinki August 9, 1997 Olympic Stadium GROSS: $2,198,978 ATTENDANCE: 50,943(sellout)

40. Warsaw August 12, 1997 Horse Race Track GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 70,000(unconfirmed estimate)(sellout)

41. Prague August 14, 1997 Strahov Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 80,000(unconfirmed estimate)(sellout)

42. Vienna August 16, 1997 Former Airport Station GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 73,000(unconfirmed estimate)(sellout)

43. Nurnberg August 18, 1997 Zeppelinfield GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 35,000(unconfirmed estimate)(cap: 60,000)

44. Hannover August 20, 1997 Expo GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 38,500(unconfirmed estimate)(cap: 80,000)

45, 46. London August 22-23, 1997 Wembley Stadium two shows combined GROSS: $6,753,356 ATTENDANCE: 144,308(sellouts X 2)

47. Belfast August 26, 1997 Botanical Gardens
GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 39,362(sellout)

48. Leeds August 28, 1997 Roundhay Park GROSS: $2,458,615 ATTENDANCE: 53,917(sellout)

49, 50. Dublin August 30-31, 1997 Landsdowne Park two shows combined GROSS: $3,441,268 ATTENDANCE: 85,046(sellouts X 2)

51. Edinburgh September 2, 1997 Murrayfield Stadium GROSS: $2,318,566 ATTENDANCE: 50,439(sellout??????)

52. Paris September 6, 1997 Parc des Princes GROSS: $2,501,742 ATTENDANCE: 53,519(sellout)

53. Madrid September 9, 1997 Vicente Calderon Stadium GROSS: $1,776,728 ATTENDANCE: 46,385(sellout)

54. Lisbon September 11, 1997 Alvalade Stadium GROSS: $2,045,906 ATTENDANCE: 62,114(sellout)

55. Barcelona September 13, 1997 Olympic Stadium GROSS: $2,281,165 ATTENDANCE: 60,096(sellout)

56. Montpelier September 15, 1997 Espace Grammont GROSS: $1,033,643 ATTENDANCE: 24,188(cap: 30,000)

57. Rome September 18, 1997 Hippodrome GROSS: $1,990,073 ATTENDANCE: 56,392(sellout???????)

58. Reggio Emilia September 20, 1997 Festival Site GROSS: $5,294,117 ATTENDANCE: 150,000(sellout?????)

59. Sarajevo September 23, 1997 Kosevo Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 50,000(unconfirmed estimate)(sellout?????)

60. Thessaloniki September 26, 1997 Harbour Yard GROSS: $725,000 ATTENDANCE: 50,000(sellout)

61. Tel Aviv September 30, 1997 Hayarkon Park GROSS: $1,809,388 ATTENDANCE: 31,566(cap: 35,000)

2ND LEG: EUROPE POPMART TOTALS
GROSS: $58,697,632 ATTENDANCE: 1,572,721
AVERAGE GROSS: $1,834,301 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 49,148



POPMART 3RD LEG: NORTH AMERICA 17 SHOWS

62, 63. Toronto October 26-27, 1997 SkyDome 2 shows combined GROSS: $3,875,335 ATTENDANCE: 99,195(sellouts X 2)

64. Minneapolis October 29, 1997 Metrodome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 30,000(unconfirmed estimate)
(U2 LIVE: 28,000 - cap: ?????)

65. Pontiac October 31, 1997 Pontiac Silverdome GROSS: $1,781,621 ATTENDANCE: 35,463(cap: 40,000)

66. Montreal November 2, 1997 Montreal Olympic Stadium GROSS: $1,905,108 ATTENDANCE: 48,855(sellout)

67. St. Louis November 8, 1997 Trans World Dome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 30,000(unconfirmed estimate)
(U2 LIVE: 28,000 - cap: ?????)

68. Tampa November 10, 1997 Tampa Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 20,000(unconfirmed estimate)
(cap: 40,000?)

69. Jacksonville November 12, 1997 Municipal Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 15,000(unconfirmed estimate)
(cap: 48,000?)

70. Miami November 14, 1997 Pro Player Stadium GROSS: $2,158,988 ATTENDANCE: 42,778(cap: 44,500)

71. New Orleans November 21, 1997 Superdome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?
U2 LIVE: 21,000 - cap: ?????)
(cap: 50,000???)

72. San Antonio November 23, 1997 Alamodome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?
(U2 LIVE: 21,000 - cap: ?????)

73. Atlanta November 26, 1997 Georgia Dome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?
(U2 LIVE: 30,000 - cap: 30,000)(sellout?)
(cap: 45,000+?)

74. Houston November 28, 1997 AstroDome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?
(U2 LIVE: 21,000)
(cap: 35,000?)

75, 76. Mexico City December 2-3, 1997 Foro Sol 2 shows combined GROSS: $4,595,225 ATTENDANCE: 106,966(sellouts X 2)

77. Vancouver December 9, 1997 B.C. Place Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 30,000(unconfirmed estimate)
(U2 LIVE: 28,000)
(local press: 28,000)
(cap: 40,000)

78. Seattle December 12, 1997 The Kingdome GROSS: $1,539,705 ATTENDANCE: 30,260(cap: ?????)

POPMART 3RD LEG: NORTH AMERICA 17 SHOWS TOTALS GROSS: $26,036,837 ATTENDANCE: 575,742 AVERAGE GROSS: $1,531,579 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 33,867




POPMART 4TH LEG: South America, Australia, Japan, South Africa. 15 SHOWS

79. Rio De Janeiro January 27, 1998 Nelson Piquet Autodromo GROSS: $2,654,715 ATTENDANCE: 66,949(sellout)

80, 81. Sao Paulo January 30-31, 1998 Morumbi Stadium 2 shows combined GROSS: $6,103,065 ATTENDANCE: 154,056(sellouts X 2)

82, 83, 84. Buenos Aires February 5,6,7, 1998 River Plate Stadium 3 shows combined GROSS: $8,668,840 ATTENDANCE: 160,478(sellouts X 3)

85. Santiago February 11, 1998 Estadio Nacional GROSS: $2,171,112 ATTENDANCE: 67,633(sellout)

86. Perth February 17, 1998 Burswood Dome GROSS: $1,273,178 ATTENDANCE: 13,775(sellout - arena)

87. Melbourne February 21, 1998 Waverly Park GROSS: $1,366,510 ATTENDANCE: 23,810(cap: 30,000)

88. Brisbane February 25, 1998 ANZ Stadium GROSS: $1,019,744 ATTENDANCE: 17,567(cap: 30,000)

89. Sydney February 28, 1998 Football Ground GROSS: $2,236,123 ATTENDANCE: 37,976(sellout)

90. Tokyo March 5, 1998 Tokyo Dome GROSS: $2,439,230 ATTENDANCE: 34,265(cap: 38,000)

91. Osaka March 11, 1998 Osaka Dome GROSS: $1,404,722 ATTENDANCE: 19,735(cap: 25,000)

92. Cape Town March 16, 1998 Green Point Stadium GROSS: $1,339,233 ATTENDANCE: 30,362(sellout)

93. Johannesburg March 21, 1998 Athletic Park GROSS: $2,467,843 ATTENDANCE: 64,320(sellout)

POPMART 4TH LEG: 15 SHOWS TOTALS
GROSS: $33,144,315 ATTENDANCE: 690,926
AVERAGE GROSS: $2,209,621 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 46,062





The Totals for the Entire 93 date POPMART TOUR are GROSS: $171,677,024 ATTENDANCE: 3,935,936 AVERAGE GROSS: $1,845,989.5 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 42,322
I have exact statistics for 71 of the 93 POPMART shows. I was able to come up with the totals for each leg of the tour and the entire tour itself because those figures were printed by Amusement Business back in 97-98.(Amusementbusiness.com)
I cross-referenced the attendance #'s with "U2 Live", and added capacity and sell out information. There is still a couple bits of information to be added.
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I cross-referenced the attendance #'s with "U2 Live", and added capacity and sell out information. There is still a couple bits of information to be added.
One thing to remember with the "capacity" figures is that is the "set capacity" for the show, not necessarily the full capacity of the venue. For example, when Green Day recently played the Wachovia center in Philadelphia, capacity was "set" at around 15,000 because the band did not have seating behind the stage. When U2 playes the same arena, they use the entire arena including seats behind the stage thus utilizing the full capacity of the arena.

Its often difficult to determine the full capacity of some of these football stadiums for a concert because it is not the same as the capacity for a football game. Around 40% to 50% of seats in the stands can't be used because the large stage either completely blocks the view from those seats or partially obstructs views from other seats. In addition, when seats are used on the field, this reduces the capacity of field tickets to around 10,000 to 15,000.

Anyways, the capacity's listed above are the "set capacities" the band attempted to sellout. They are sometimes the full capacity of the venue and sometimes something a bit less.
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I took that into account.

I also used capacity figures that were LESS that when the band played the same venue in 1987 or 1992.

One that can be added is the New Orleans Superdome. Regular capacity is 72,000 for a football game or Benny Hinn convention. 50-55k would be a good estimate for Maximum amount of tickets U2 could sell.

Feel free to correct any of my figures.

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