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dont you think superdome is out of the picture now?
STING2 said:
I think the book you just got is called "U2 LIVE A CONCERT DOCUMENTARY: Its by Pimm Jal De La Parra. The figures presented here are the same figures that are in the book. All figures come from "Amusement Business" which tracks the concert industry worldwide.
Also, on average for the first leg, most shows had 2/3 to 3/4 of their capacities, 12 shows were sellouts. There were only a small number of shows on the entire tour that only had 1/4 of their capacity filled, that level of attendance was rare.
Tickets for the entire tour went on sale in mid-February several weeks before the album was even released. Regardless, ticket prices and criticisms of the stage show were actually rather minor reasons why the band struggled to fill up the stadiums where as five years earlier on ZOO TV it was comparitively easy. Indeed, many casual fans did not like the new album and did not buy it and were not interested in seeing the new, more expensive show.
Regardless one has to realize that the band were still successful in playing to many full stadiums or soldout stadiums in North America. Every show in Canada soldout with the exception of Vancouver. POPMART was the the highest grossing tour worldwide in 1997 and at that time it was also the second highest grossing tour in history, despite several poorly attended shows.
U2FanPeter said:2006?
They will likely beat their 1997 attendance.
Was the ticket count ever reported for the cancelled Raleigh Popmart show?
u2fp
fedeu2 said:And we all should remember that Popmart was the tour with the most attendance in the US back in 1997. The only reason why Bridges to Babylon was deemed a more successful tour is tickets were more expensive thus making it the top grossing tour in the US that year.
fedeu2 said:I don´t think so but remember that the main reason they cancelled the show was they got the screen extensively damaged by a storm or something like that.
Regardless of the number of tickets sold, at least they had a good excuse.
fedeu2 said:You´re absolutely right sting2. And we all should remember that Popmart was the tour with the most attendance in the US back in 1997. The only reason why Bridges to Babylon was deemed a more successful tour is tickets were more expensive thus making it the top grossing tour in the US that year.
Actually, the Popmart tour sold 100,000 more tickets than the Bridges to Babylon tour in the US. U2 played 10 more shows than the Stones that year in the US, so someone could argue that if the Stones had added three or four more shows to the tour, they would have superseded U2 in the number of tickets sold too.
So, why didn´t they do it? I´m pretty sure the reason is there was no additional demand.
Popmartijn said:
Actually, that isn't correct. I have to admit I'm doing this from memory, but if it serves me right, then I think that Garth Brooks had the most attendance for his tour. However, his ticket prices were a lot lower than U2's, so he didn't gross as much.
fedeu2 said:I don´t think so but remember that the main reason they cancelled the show was they got the screen extensively damaged by a storm or something like that.
Regardless of the number of tickets sold, at least they had a good excuse.
U2FanPeter said:
If you read the U2 SHOW book, or crew interviews from 1997-8 about the technical aspects of the tour, the crew said the screen NEVER had a major malfunction.
On can also argue that it would have been relatively easy to reshedule the show.
I think an educated guess was that maybe in the range of 15,000 tickets were sold, or less. When exactly was the concert cancelled - just a couple days before the show?
u2fp
U2FanPeter said:
If you read the U2 SHOW book, or crew interviews from 1997-8 about the technical aspects of the tour, the crew said the screen NEVER had a major malfunction.
On can also argue that it would have been relatively easy to reshedule the show.
I think an educated guess was that maybe in the range of 15,000 tickets were sold, or less. When exactly was the concert cancelled - just a couple days before the show?
u2fp
STING2 said:
The Bidges To Babylon Tour continued in the USA into 1998 and this put them over the top in terms of attendence and increased their total GROSS from 89 million to around 120 million. So it was the bigger tour eventually, but not at the end of 1997.
U2Man said:
I have always had a very deep suspicion that the thing about the damaged screen was a baaaaaaaad excuse.....
STING2 said:
It was cancelled just a few days before the show, and the screen broke down again during the show in Washington DC according to fans who were there. Even if only 15,000 tickets were sold the band would have played the show, as they did in Jacksonville with the same number in attendance. But most reports I have seen place the number of tickets sold closer to 20,000 for that North Carolina show.
STING2 said:
59. Sarajevo September 23, 1997 Kosevo Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 50,000(unconfirmed estimate)
POPMART 3RD LEG: NORTH AMERICA 17 SHOWS
64. Minneapolis October 29, 1997 Metrodome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 30,000(unconfirmed estimate)
67. St. Louis November 8, 1997 Trans World Dome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 30,000(unconfirmed estimate)
68. Tampa November 10, 1997 Tampa Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 20,000(unconfirmed estimate)
69. Jacksonville November 12, 1997 Municipal Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 15,000(unconfirmed estimate)
alexvox said:
EVENT DATE: ARTIST/EVENT: VENUE: CITY/STATE: U.S. GROSS: NATIVE CURRENCY GROSS: ATTENDANCE: CAPACITY: NUMBER OF SHOWS: NUMBER OF SELLOUTS: TICKET PRICES: PROMOTER(S):
Sep. 23, 1997 U2 Kosevo Stadium Sarajevo, Bosnia $540 000, 45 000 45 000 1 1 $12 TNA International Ltd./Rock Prods.
Oct. 29, 1997 U2 Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome Minneapolis, Minn. $1 471 800, 28 724 35 000 1 0 $52.50, $37.50 TNA USA/Rose Presents
Nov. 2, 1997 U2 Stade Olympique Montreal, Quebec $1 905 108 ($2,667,151 Canadian), 48 855 48 855 1 1 $39.29, $28.57 TNA International Ltd./Universal Concerts Canada
Nov. 8, 1997 U2 TransWorld Dome St. Louis, Mo. $1 282 160, 24 807 34 000 1 0 $52.50, $37.50 TNA USA/Contemporary Productions
Nov. 10, 1997 U2 Houlihan's Stadium (now Raymond James Stadium) Tampa, Fla. $893 865, 17 776 70 000 1 0 $52.50, $37.50 TNA USA/Cellar Door
Nov. 12, 1997 U2 Alltel Stadium Jacksonville, Fla. $726 217, 14 491 30 000 1 0 $52.50, $37.50 TNA USA/Cellar Door
alexvox said:Sep. 23, 1997 U2 Kosevo Stadium Sarajevo, Bosnia $540 000, 45 000 45 000 1 1 $12 TNA International Ltd./Rock Prods.
Nov. 12, 1997 U2 Alltel Stadium Jacksonville, Fla. $726 217, 14 491 30 000 1 0 $52.50, $37.50 TNA USA/Cellar Door
U2FanPeter said:
I wonder if the promoter lost more money in Jacksonville than in Sarajevo? I'm sure they spent way more than $200,000 figuring out how to put on that show in Sarajavo.
alexvox said:Popmart Tour 2nd Leg / Additional figures
July 25, 1997 U2, Skunk Anansie Werchter Festival Site Werchter, Belgium $1 482 134 37 498 40 000 1 0 $39,53
Aug. 16, 1997 U2 Airfield Weiner Neustadt, Austria $2 017 344 62 592 62 592 1 1 $40, $32.30
Aug. 2, 1997 U2 Ullevi Stadion Goteborg, Sweden $1 920 178 46 658 46 658 1 1 $41,15
Aug. 6, 1997 U2 Valle Hovin Oslo, Norway $1 698 841 40 000 40 000 1 1 $42,47
Aug. 12, 1997 U2 Tor Slwzewekky Warsaw, Poland $1 042 066 52 070 52 070 1 1 $20.96, $16.93
Aug. 14, 1997 U2 Strahov Stadium Prague, Czech Republic $1 254 201 61 010 65 000 1 0 $60.14, $18.66
Aug. 16, 1997 U2 Airfield Weiner Neustadt, Austria $2 017 344 62 592 62 592 1 1 $40, $32.30
Aug. 20, 1997 U2 Expo Gelande Hannover, Germany $1 520 437 40 183 40 183 1 1 $37,83
STING2 said:1. Las Vegas April 25, 1997 Sam Boyd Stadium
GROSS: $1,866,524 ATTENDANCE: 36,742
2. San Diego April 28, 1997 Jack Murphy Stadium GROSS: $1,545,990 ATTENDANCE: 30,572
3. Denver May 1, 1997 Mile High Stadium
GROSS: $1,432,965 ATTENDANCE: 28,540
4. Salt Lake City May 3, 1997 Rice Stadium
GROSS: $1,692,732 ATTENDANCE: 33,277
5. Eugene May 6, 1997 Autzen Stadium
GROSS: $1,293,540 ATTENDANCE: 25,931
6. Tempe May 9, 1997 Sun Devil Stadium
GROSS: $1,673,317 ATTENDANCE: 33,539
7. Dallas May 12, 1997 Cotton Bowl
GROSS: $1,908,637 ATTENDANCE: 38,043
8. Memphis May 14, 1997 Liberty Bowl
GROSS: $1,131,570 ATTENDANCE: 22,734
9. Clemson May 16, 1997 Frank Howard Memorial
Stadium GROSS: $1,043,349 ATTENDANCE: 20,251
10. Kansas May 19, 1997 Arrowhead Stadium
GROSS: $1,201,035 ATTENDANCE: 23,709
11. Pittsburgh May 22, 1997 Three Rivers Stadium GROSS: $1,376,317 ATTENDANCE: 27,785
12. Columbus May 24, 1997 Ohio Stadium
GROSS: $2,246,977 ATTENDANCE: 43,873
13. Washington DC May 26, 1997 RFK Stadium
GROSS: $2,149,432 ATTENDANCE: 42,295
14, 15, 16. East Rutherford May 31-June 1,3, 1997 Giants Stadium 3 shows combined GROSS: $6,499,131 ATTENDANCE: 129,644
17. Philadelphia June 8, 1997 Franklin Field
GROSS: $2,549,610 ATTENDANCE: 49,944
18. Winnipeg June 12, 1997 Winnipeg Stadium
GROSS: $1,653,884 ATTENDANCE: 42,270
19, 20. Edmonton June 14-15, 1997 Commonwealth Stadium 2 shows combined GROSS: $3,493,456 ATTENDANCE: 90,000
21, 22. Oakland June 18-19, 1997 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum 2 shows combined GROSS: $3,263,243 ATTENDANCE: 66,990
23. Los Angeles June 21, 1997 Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum GROSS: $3,329,775 ATTENDANCE: 65,488
24. Madison June 25, 1997 Camp Randall Stadium GROSS: $1,701,045 ATTENDANCE: 34,002
25, 26, 27. Chicago June 27,28,29, 1997 Soldier Field 3 shows combined GROSS: $5,956,587 ATTENDANCE: 116,972
28, 29. Foxboro July 1-2, 1997 Foxboro Stadium 2 shows combined GROSS: $4,789,124 ATTENDANCE: 93,946
1ST LEG OF POPMART: 29 SHOWS
GROSS: $53,798,240 ATTENDANCE: 1,096,547
AVERAGE GROSS: $1,855,112 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 37,812
POPMART TOUR 2ND LEG: EUROPE 32 SHOWS
30, 31. Rotterdam July 18-19, 1997 Feyenoord Stadium 2 shows combined GROSS: $3,214,484 ATTENDANCE: 91,832
32. Werchter July 25, 1997 Werchter Festival Site GROSS: $1,482,134 ATTENDANCE: 37,498
33. Cologne July 27, 1997 Butzweiler Hof GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 29,000(unconfirmed estimate)
34. Leipzig July 29, 1997 Festweise GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 18,500(unconfirmed estimate)
35. Mannheim July 31, 1997 Maimarkt GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 25,000(unconfirmed estimate)
36. Gouhenburg August 2, 1997 Ullevi Stadion GROSS: $1,920,178 ATTENDANCE: 46,658
37. Copenhagen August 4, 1997 Parken Stadium GROSS: $2,079,137 ATTENDANCE: 42,734
38. Oslo August 6, 1997 Vallehovin GROSS: $1,698,841 ATTENDANCE: 40,000
39. Helsinki August 9, 1997 Olympic Stadium GROSS: $2,198,978 ATTENDANCE: 50,943
40. Warsaw August 12, 1997 Tor Slwzewekky GROSS: $1,042,066 ATTENDANCE: 52,070
41. Prague August 14, 1997 Strahov Stadium GROSS: $1,254,201 ATTENDANCE: 61,010
42. Neustadt, Austria, August 16, 1997 Airfield Weiner GROSS: $2,017,344 ATTENDANCE: 62,592
43. Nurnberg August 18, 1997 Zeppelinfield GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 35,000(unconfirmed estimate)
44. Hannover August 20, 1997 Expo Gelande GROSS: $1,520,437 ATTENDANCE: 40,183
45, 46. London August 22-23, 1997 Wembley Stadium two shows combined GROSS: $6,753,356 ATTENDANCE: 144,308
47. Belfast August 26, 1997 Botanical Gardens
GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 39,362
48. Leeds August 28, 1997 Roundhay Park GROSS: $2,458,615 ATTENDANCE: 53,917
49, 50. Dublin August 30-31, 1997 Landsdowne Park two shows combined GROSS: $3,441,268 ATTENDANCE: 85,046
51. Edinburgh September 2, 1997 Murrayfield Stadium GROSS: $2,318,566 ATTENDANCE: 50,439
52. Paris September 6, 1997 Parc des Princes GROSS: $2,501,742 ATTENDANCE: 53,519
53. Madrid September 9, 1997 Vicente Calderon Stadium GROSS: $1,776,728 ATTENDANCE: 46,385
54. Lisbon September 11, 1997 Alvalade Stadium GROSS: $2,045,906 ATTENDANCE: 62,114
55. Barcelona September 13, 1997 Olympic Stadium GROSS: $2,281,165 ATTENDANCE: 60,096
56. Montpelier September 15, 1997 Espace Grammont GROSS: $1,033,643 ATTENDANCE: 24,188
57. Rome September 18, 1997 Hippodrome GROSS: $1,990,073 ATTENDANCE: 56,392
58. Reggio Emilia September 20, 1997 Festival Site GROSS: $5,294,117 ATTENDANCE: 150,000
59. Sarajevo September 23, 1997 Kosevo Stadium GROSS: $540,000 ATTENDANCE: 45,000
60. Thessaloniki September 26, 1997 Harbour Yard GROSS: $725,000 ATTENDANCE: 50,000
61. Tel Aviv September 30, 1997 Hayarkon Park GROSS: $1,809,388 ATTENDANCE: 31,566
2ND LEG: EUROPE POPMART TOTALS
GROSS: $58,697,632 ATTENDANCE: 1,572,721
AVERAGE GROSS: $1,834,301 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 49,148
POPMART 3RD LEG: NORTH AMERICA 17 SHOWS
62, 63. Toronto October 26-27, 1997 SkyDome 2 shows combined GROSS: $3,875,335 ATTENDANCE: 99,195
64. Minneapolis October 29, 1997 Metrodome GROSS: $1,471,800 ATTENDANCE: 28,724
65. Pontiac October 31, 1997 Pontiac Silverdome GROSS: $1,781,621 ATTENDANCE: 35,463
66. Montreal November 2, 1997 Montreal Olympic Stadium GROSS: $1,905,108 ATTENDANCE: 48,855
67. St. Louis November 8, 1997 Trans World Dome GROSS: $1,282,160 ATTENDANCE: 24,807
68. Tampa November 10, 1997 Houlihan's Stadium GROSS: $893,865 ATTENDANCE: 17,776
69. Jacksonville November 12, 1997 Alltel Stadium GROSS: $726,217 ATTENDANCE: 14,491
70. Miami November 14, 1997 Pro Player Stadium GROSS: $2,158,988 ATTENDANCE: 42,778
71. New Orleans November 21, 1997 Superdome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?
72. San Antonio November 23, 1997 Alamodome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?
73. Atlanta November 26, 1997 Georgia Dome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?
74. Houston November 28, 1997 AstroDome GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: ?
75, 76. Mexico City December 2-3, 1997 Foro Sol 2 shows combined GROSS: $4,595,225 ATTENDANCE: 106,966
77. Vancouver December 9, 1997 B.C. Place Stadium GROSS: ? ATTENDANCE: 30,000(unconfirmed estimate)
78. Seattle December 12, 1997 The Kingdome GROSS: $1,539,705 ATTENDANCE: 30,260
POPMART 3RD LEG: NORTH AMERICA 17 SHOWS TOTALS GROSS: $26,036,837 ATTENDANCE: 575,742 AVERAGE GROSS: $1,531,579 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 33,867
POPMART 4TH LEG: South America, Australia, Japan, South Africa. 15 SHOWS
79. Rio De Janeiro January 27, 1998 Nelson Piquet Autodromo GROSS: $2,654,715 ATTENDANCE: 66,949
80, 81. Sao Paulo January 30-31, 1998 Morumbi Stadium 2 shows combined GROSS: $6,103,065 ATTENDANCE: 154,056
82, 83, 84. Buenos Aires February 5,6,7, 1998 River Plate Stadium 3 shows combined GROSS: $8,668,840 ATTENDANCE: 160,478
85. Santiago February 11, 1998 Estadio Nacional GROSS: $2,171,112 ATTENDANCE: 67,633
86. Perth February 17, 1998 Burswood Dome GROSS: $1,273,178 ATTENDANCE: 13,775
87. Melbourne February 21, 1998 Waverly Park GROSS: $1,366,510 ATTENDANCE: 23,810
88. Brisbane February 25, 1998 ANZ Stadium GROSS: $1,019,744 ATTENDANCE: 17,567
89. Sydney February 28, 1998 Football Ground GROSS: $2,236,123 ATTENDANCE: 37,976
90. Tokyo March 5, 1998 Tokyo Dome GROSS: $2,439,230 ATTENDANCE: 34,265
91. Osaka March 11, 1998 Osaka Dome GROSS: $1,404,722 ATTENDANCE: 19,735
92. Cape Town March 16, 1998 Green Point Stadium GROSS: $1,339,233 ATTENDANCE: 30,362
93. Johannesburg March 21, 1998 Athletic Park GROSS: $2,467,843 ATTENDANCE: 64,320
POPMART 4TH LEG: 15 SHOWS TOTALS
GROSS: $33,144,315 ATTENDANCE: 690,926
AVERAGE GROSS: $2,209,621 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 46,062
The Totals for the Entire 93 date POPMART TOUR are GROSS: $171,677,024 ATTENDANCE: 3,935,936 AVERAGE GROSS: $1,845,989.5 AVERAGE ATTENDANCE: 42,322
We now have individual statistics for 83 of the 93 POPMART shows. I was able to come up with the totals for each leg of the tour and the entire tour itself because those figures were printed by Amusement Business back in 97-98.(Amusementbusiness.com)
alexvox said:July 27, 1997 U2 Butzweilerhof Koln, Germany $1 059 067 27 662 35 000 1 0 $46.19, $38.04
July 29, 1997 U2 Festwiese Leipzig, Germany $702 396 18 463 25 000 1 0 $38,04
July 31, 1997 U2 Maimankt Mannheim, Germany $716 281 18 828 25 000 1 0 $38,04
Aug. 18, 1997 U2 Zeppelinfeld Nuremberg, Germany $1 153 149 29 916 35 000 1 0 $38,54
Aug. 26, 1997 U2 Botanical Gardens Belfast, Northern Ireland $1 669 372 39 362 39 362 1 1 $42,40
Nov. 21, 1997 U2, Third Eye Blind Louisiana Superdome New Orleans, La. $911 528 21 465 25 000 1 0 $52.50, $26.25
Nov. 23, 1997 U2, Third Eye Blind Alamodome San Antonio, Texas $1 277 250 26 022 30 000 1 0 $52.50, $37.50
Nov. 26, 1997 U2, Smash Mouth Georgia Dome Atlanta, Ga. $1 325 288 26 491 32 500 1 0 $52.50, $26.25 TNA USA/Cellar Door Concerts
Nov. 28, 1997 U2, Smash Mouth Houston Astrodome Houston, Texas $1 156 155 22 981 30 000 1 0 $52.50, $32.50
Dec. 9, 1997 U2, Smash Mouth B.C. Place Stadium Vancouver, British Columbia $1 136 592 29 468 35 000 1 0 $55, $40
I think you have all Popmart figures