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Old 01-10-2008, 04:11 AM   #121
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Boxing Day >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Australian soccer
68,000? Pretty ordinary considering the overhype.
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Dogs humping > Australian rules fumbleball









Shit, we're going to turn the cricket thread into a football codes bitchfest

Australian rules football > you






^ They were never ever going to get more than that when you consider the Ashes only bought in 80000.





Australian rules football >>> Cricket >>>>>>>>>>> Rugby League >> Rugby Union >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Soccer

and that is my true opinion.
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^ They were never ever going to get more than that when you consider the Ashes only bought in 80000.

So much for selling out the first day of the Boxing Day Test, 3 months before the test actually started. Almost 20% of the stadium was empty, unlike the MCG for the Australia vs Greece meaningless friendly match (95,000).

Rugby League is unwatchable.
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Oh, it's so much more than that. Like detestable, vile, talentless, thuggish, pointless, boring...
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So much for selling out the first day of the Boxing Day Test, 3 months before the test actually started. Almost 20% of the stadium was empty, unlike the MCG for the Australia vs Greece meaningless friendly match (95,000).

Rugby League is unwatchable.
I haven't got anything here...
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Victoria are going into the 20/20 Champions League in India, that's pretty schweet.
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Oh, it's so much more than that. Like detestable, vile, talentless, thuggish, pointless, boring...
Yet there is less pointless violence than in AFL
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Yet there is less pointless violence than in AFL
It's the pointless violence that makes the game so loved. It's rough and tumble. A man's world. And there isn't any pointless violence. That ended a long time ago.

Meanwhile, Hayden is out of the Perth test, WA's own Chris Rogers is in (should have been Simon Katich, who is averaging 109), and Hogg will be out for Tait.

Tait

Also, I think Jaffer will make way for Sehwag.
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It's the pointless violence that makes the game so loved. It's rough and tumble. A man's world. And there isn't any pointless violence. That ended a long time ago.
Everytime i watch AFL someone gets a blindsided punch. Manly? Nay. Pointless? Yay
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Aussieball is a good sport, the AFL is just a shite excuse for a league who have runied the sport.
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Everytime i watch AFL someone gets a blindsided punch. Manly? Nay. Pointless? Yay
It's just part of the game... the way it's always been. It's all or nothing out there!!

^ A league that has ruined the sport?? Care to explain?
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Oh, it's so much more than that. Like detestable, vile, talentless, thuggish, pointless, boring...
Used to describe league. Clearly, more accurately used to describe AFL
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^ A league that has ruined the sport?? Care to explain?
Tradition is dead. All Victorian teams are meaningless and out of touch with their heritage (expect Geelong). Tradition has been replaced by pathetic gimmicks such as Rivalry Rounds and Heritage Round.

All matches looks the same, played at the stale Docklands stadium, and the media overhypes the hell out of a sporting league that is pretty ordinary. The Herald Sun are a disgrace, dedicating entire colums to 'news' about rookies having to move away from the country to play for a new club. Who gives a fuck aboust some rookie?!

Most players aren't necessarily 'skilled', just fit. And it is the act that all these players have a similar fitness and skill level that makes suburban football a joy to watch.
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*clasps hands together* I'm having fun now! (title says cricket lol)

okay...

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Used to describe league. Clearly, more accurately used to describe AFL.
Detestable - 6.9 million+ people disagree.
Vile - Where's the vile?
Talentless - How are they talentless? Less than 1% of every kid across the country that takes up footy will play AFL. They are immensley talented.
Thuggish - Not as much as it was, sadly, and it's what makes the sport what it is. Not the soft American football or soccer.
Pointless - Wouldn't have lasted 150 years if it was.
Boring - Wrong, wrong, wrong!!! Watch Geelong v Collingwood 07 prelim final. Tell me that was boring.

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Tradition is dead. All Victorian teams are meaningless and out of touch with their heritage (expect Geelong). Tradition has been replaced by pathetic gimmicks such as Rivalry Rounds and Heritage Round.

All matches looks the same, played at the stale Docklands stadium, and the media overhypes the hell out of a sporting league that is pretty ordinary. The Herald Sun are a disgrace, dedicating entire colums to 'news' about rookies having to move away from the country to play for a new club. Who gives a fuck aboust some rookie?!

Most players aren't necessarily 'skilled', just fit. And it is the act that all these players have a similar fitness and skill level that makes suburban football a joy to watch.
Tradition is not what it was, I'll admit, but that can largely be attributed to the commercialisation of the game, which was always inevitable. And there's plenty of tradition. Satuday afternoon grand final. Colours. Generseys. Grounds. Old fans. Respect. The Kangaroos are all about tradition. If there was no tradition, they'd already be the Gold Coast Kangaroos.

All matches look the same. How can you say that when you watch soccer?? Football is completey unpredicatable, soccer has a shitload of sameness about it. 90 mintutes of the ball from the centre to the strikers to the goal... and it is saved. Vice versa. nil-all draws. Yawn. There are currently about 10 other grounds used Australia-wide, so that comment holds nil. The media focuses on AFL because we have nothing else in Melbourne worth reporting, and this goes back to tradition. Victoria has always been and always will be an VFL/AFL state, with soccer only coming in the past three years, and rugby almost a decade. Very few Victorians want the media to focus on the other sports. I want to work at the Sun one day, so there, but yes, no one is reeeealy interested in a rookie. Fair enough.

The way footy is travelling, I agree with that. Not 'most' though. 'Few'. It is a fact that some developmental sqauds (Western Jets etc) pick players based on fitness and height, over actual skill. This is not the way it used to be, and that is disappointing. Suburban football is awesome, and coolian I'd recommend you pass over it as that is where the thuggery lies...

Bring it on!!
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Detestable - 6.9 million+ people disagree. (That ain't that many)
Vile - Where's the vile? (Mostly spoilt rich brats who play)
Talentless - How are they talentless? Less than 1% of every kid across the country that takes up footy will play AFL. They are immensley talented. (They're more 'physically conditioned' rather than sublimely talented
Thuggish - Not as much as it was, sadly, and it's what makes the sport what it is. Not the soft American football or soccer. (Soccer's not thuggish because it's about using your feet. AFL could be seen as an excuse for guys to release their homoerotic tendancies while they caress each other in a heap on the ground. Gridiron is a wimp's game admittedly)
Pointless - Wouldn't have lasted 150 years if it was. (I wouldn't call Aussieball pointless either)
Boring - Wrong, wrong, wrong!!! Watch Geelong v Collingwood 07 prelim final. Tell me that was boring. (Couldn't be stuffed watching it out of the fear Collingscum might win)

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All matches look the same. How can you say that when you watch soccer?? Football is completey unpredicatable, soccer has a shitload of sameness about it. 90 mintutes of the ball from the centre to the strikers to the goal... and it is saved. Vice versa. nil-all draws. Yawn. There are currently about 10 other grounds used Australia-wide, so that comment holds nil. The media focuses on AFL because we have nothing else in Melbourne worth reporting, and this goes back to tradition. Victoria has always been and always will be an VFL/AFL state, with soccer only coming in the past three years, and rugby almost a decade. Very few Victorians want the media to focus on the other sports. I want to work at the Sun one day, so there, but yes, no one is reeeealy interested in a rookie. Fair enough.

The way footy is travelling, I agree with that. Not 'most' though. 'Few'. It is a fact that some developmental sqauds (Western Jets etc) pick players based on fitness and height, over actual skill. This is not the way it used to be, and that is disappointing. Suburban football is awesome, and coolian I'd recommend you pass over it as that is where the thuggery lies...

Bring it on!!
Satuday afternoon grand final. Colours. Generseys. Grounds. Old fans. Respect. The Kangaroos are all about tradition. If there was no tradition, they'd already be the Gold Coast Kangaroos.

- Saturday Afternoon Grand Final looks as if it's about to move to twilight.
- Traditional colours, like Bulldogs using Orange Rust colour a few years back, like the AFL forcing Bombers and Tigers to have yellow and red as their main colours because of mythical 'clashes', like Carlton and North changing their colours when they sold out to confectionary companies.
- Guernseys. Tradition is well and truly dead here. The AFL nazis telling the clubs to have away strips, one of the few things AFL had going for it over soccer, is now a thing of the past.
- Grounds That's why just about every Vic club calls Docklands home. IF grounds had a sense of tradition about them, clubs would've spent money on upgrading the stands, rather than wasting their money on private fitness facilities. Geelong are the only club with any credibility here.
- Old Fans....are dying away
- Respect....for what?
- Kangaroos, admirable in their rejection of the Gold Coast, but they''ll be forced into a merger sooner or later.

There's nothing wrong with nil-all draws, soccer is about creating chances, breaking down defensive barriers, every little play will get you closer to goal. If you're not good enough to score, a nil-all draw is a justified result. And think about how goals come in AFL. You might average about 25 goals a match, but few are memorable. All you need is for one long kick into the fifty so some tall fella can mark (a boring stoppage in play) so that he can drill a goal. Boring, seen it all before. A goal in AFL is a meaningless cheap thrill, masturbation without the pay off.

Heaps of Melburnians COULD have an interest in other sports, but for years the media has been one-dimensional, AFL-fundamentalist, if you like. Ever heard about how the AFL aligned with the Seven Network to win the rights to NSL soccer, only for them to never screen a match. The AFL paid them off, seeing soccer as a threat, which it most certainly always has been, only for HS, 3AW, 7 and 9 to continue with it's relentless anti-soccer (ethnic) stance....

Melburnians have always had an interest in other sports, it's just their interest in other sports has never been allowed to grow....
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