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I thought NZ would be SA
so I was quite surprised at that one

England is getting hammered by India right now

36 runs from 1 over :lmao:
 
Unsatisfying effort by the Kiwis really. Yet again, NZ fails to pass the semi-final stage of an international cricket tournament.

But hey, Australia lost too! India vs Pakistan final. Should be intense.
 
Ohh sweet... :drool:

I was hoping we'd lose. But hey, it won't matter because next series I'm sure we'll annihilate them.

Yuvraj Singh :bow:

Sure felt sorry for Stuart Broad though. :(
 
Unfortunately, I officially do not care anymore :(

Lack of TV showing on free-to-air TV added to a lack of reporting in papers means I have given up on cricket until it comes back with added Richie Benaud.
 
Hell, if anything's killing cricket, it's not that we're all pissed off with how shithouse the ODI World Cup was or that Twenty20 is a poorly disguised batting practice session, it's that pay TV is gobbling everything up and the majority of the population who only has free-to-air can't see it and just doesn't care.

If the sport's not available to the people, it won't be as successful. Simple as that. Fuck Foxtel, I say.
 
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Personally I don't think I'd be shattered if the cricket went elsewhere, or if other channels picked it up. It's incredibly frustrating and a bloody disgrace.
 
Wait wait, there was a ODI cricket World Cup? I thought that was just a joke... Y'know, practice for the real thing...
 
major_panic said:
Wait wait, there was a ODI cricket World Cup? I thought that was just a joke... Y'know, practice for the real thing...

A credible World Cup actually preceded this years tournament by aboiut 5 or 6 months. The ICC Trophy is a ODI tournament that follows a much more logical and entertaining format.
 
Got to admit, the end of the Pakistan innings was actually really exciting.
 
From the Australian:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22473696-7583,00.html

Gideon Haigh | September 25, 2007

NOTHING succeeds like success, says the proverb. For confirmation, look no further than the cricket grounds of South Africa. Test matches there usually struggle to attract a quorum. For the past 10 days the grounds have brimmed with life and noise for a world championship of the game's newest variant, Twenty20: a heady mixture of thrills, spills and the epiphenomenon of mass marketing.

The conclusion, moreover, was close to ideal. Where the 50-over-a-side World Cup earlier this year was fatally undermined by the early exits of India and Pakistan, here those traditional antagonists reached the final, having earlier tied after 240 deliveries. The subcontinent is the hub of the game and cricket observes the golden rule: whoever has the gold makes the rules. India and Pakistan, and perforce the world, are about to go Twenty20 crazy.

In the excitement, Australians have been notable party poopers, and not merely because they went down to both finalists after being tripped up by Zimbabwe. Trying to sound enthused about the crowds in Johannesburg, Adam Gilchrist let his ambivalence hang out: "Er, yeah, yeah. It's um ... well. The more I play it, I am starting to, not so much like it as a player, but love watching it."

Andrew Symonds came straight out and called Twenty20 "a frustrating game because you can be beaten by the lesser sides", which "have to be good for a shorter period of time". In this they echo their captain, Ricky Ponting, who last year confessed: "I don't think I really like playing Twenty20 international cricket."

Nobody else shows quite the same candour, perhaps because Twenty20 is looming as a means by which the much-resented Australian grip on international cricket may be loosened, and perhaps also because of its looming booty.

A Champions Twenty20 League along the lines of rugby's Super 14s is promised a year hence: nine days, $US5 million ($5.7 million), involving teams from host India, Australia, England and South Africa, with corporates bidding for the right to field franchise teams selected from a pool of internationals.

For punters, Twenty20 has been a blast: a starburst of sixes, a welter of wickets and, not least, a farcical "bowl-out" during the finalists' first meeting where trembling players proved embarrassingly incapable of hitting a set of stumps.

Indeed, embarrassment is the essence of Twenty20. Players don't just fail, they are humiliated.

A promising young bowler, Stuart Broad, was smashed for six sixes in an over. A brilliant young batsman, Michael Clarke, faced only four balls during the entire tournament. Sri Lanka's able and stylish top order, which excelled in the World Cup and whose variety of strokeplayers is one of the pleasures of the modern game, committed batting harakiri in 10 overs. The fielding has been surprisingly ham-handed, with plenty of catches missed and only three taken in the slips in the 26 games preceding the final. Twenty20, then, turns a game of subtleties, intricacies and distant intimacies into a theatre of cruelty for television.

Cricket lovers underestimate this philosophical shift at their peril. Cricket has traditionally been a game for players, with everyone enjoying the scope and the time to show their own special skills. But this length, breadth and variety have made the game difficult to mass market.

When one-day cricket brought the spectators' understandable desire to see a result in a day into calculations, that balance was disturbed. "In cricket, the players are the boss," observed Peter Roebuck. "In one-day cricket, the game is the boss."

In Twenty20, that boss totes an MBA and a BlackBerry, and his concern is chiefly ratings rather than runs or wickets. Indeed, the format originated on the marketing whiteboards at the England and Wales Cricket Board four years ago as a means of attracting cricket "tolerators": sports watchers averse to the game who might consider going if it was shorter, sharper and noisier.

A novel idea, this: to redesign a game to the specifications of those who don't like it, rather like creating art for consumers who prefer pornography or composing music for listeners with a taste for cacophony.

But the practitioners' acquiescence is bought by an arrangement reminiscent of Alfred Hitchcock's principle for dealing with actors: "Pay them heaps and treat them like cattle."

So the administrators have a hit on their hands, a hit that will reverberate. We have already seen the best-case scenario: a successful tournament still tinged with novelty.

Through time, however, it is likely that the main beneficiaries will be commercial intermediaries.

Cricket will make a great deal of money in the short term, money it has no obvious need for and will mostly waste, and it will be left a coarser, crueller, crasser game as a result. Now that the Twenty20 world championship is over, another proverb comes to mind: be careful what you wish for.
 
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Andrew Symonds came straight out and called Twenty20 "a frustrating game because you can be beaten by the lesser sides", which "have to be good for a shorter period of time".

What a load of horse manure. That's code for: "We've been slower to adapt to Twenty20 than younger, more eager sides that want to prove themselves, and now we're sore losers who can't hack being upstaged. Can we all just keep playing the form of the game where we shut the rest of you out?"
 
You didn't find the last game half-exciting at least?

Got a tour of India up next. Despite us missing half our best side and India having just won a tournament, I predict we will smash India. :(
 
That was one of the worst series I have ever watched. We batted three times and they took only 11 wickets. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.

And yes I'm reviving this thread in the hope of an interesting Indian series. My observations:

- I'm glad Murali left without Warnie's record, he didn't deserve it after that woeful performance. His average in Australia is hovering in the eighties.

- Kumar Sangakkara is an incredible batsman and a joy to watch. He and Marvan Attapattu are the only Lankans to get a pass mark from me. (Jayawardena doesn't get one for two reasons, 1. leaving Malinga out of the first test and 2. winning the toss and fielding)

- Stuart MacGill is over the hill. Give Hogg another chance. He can bat and is a very good fieldsman and will not bowl the shit that MacGill did in the second test.

- Ricky Ponting is really starting to test my patience.

- Will any side ever be able to bowl out Jaques-Hayden-Ponting-Hussey-Clarke-Symonds-Gilchrist for a reasonable score? It's gonna take very hard work.

- Rudi, Rudi, Rudi. :tsk:

- Let's hope the Indian bowlers can make this series somewhat interesting. I always love cricket season, but I'm losing faith in it now that Australia are just dominating.
 
Yeah, that whole series was a big disappointment :tsk: The last day of the last test looked somewhat promising. Sri Lanka only lost by 96 runs, if they'd batted the day they would of won easily, instead they collapsed.

- I was impressed by Jaques and Lee. Although you can't read too much into their performances because Sri Lanka was just a joke, there were definately some postives regarding the post- Warne/McGrath/Langer/Martyn era.

- As for MacGill, i couldn't figure out why they chose him to start with :shrug: they keep going on about 'the future' and how in x number of years the Australian team will be weakened by inexperience, why not bring in a younger spinner to build experience now?

- Murali... :sigh: so much for challenging our batters. He's considered the best in the world now, and that performance was a massive let down... I want to see our top and middle order really put under pressure, hopefully India can deliver.

- The idea of having such a huge gap between the Sri Lankan and Indian tests is just stupid. I can't really see any positives it could bring. It all just seems very messy... Is that a permanent change or just this season to accommodate for international scheduling?

- Also, during the test the idea of players playing for other countries was raised. I can see the merit in the idea, but i just can't see it working. I don't mind our former players coaching other countries, but playing for them would be a bad idea i think. Could you imagine an Aussie playing for England in the Ashes? :huh:

Unfortunately the only thing that will stop this team from breaking the Waugh-era record for consecutive test wins will be the weather... but i'm still hoping for some exciting cricket :wink:
 
Terrible series, and it is series like this which will firmly establish soccer as Australia's number one sport in the popular opinion as well. Tried watching it for longer than 5 minute periods but couldn't do it, and I was supporting Sri Lanka in this one on principle.

I reckon MacGill's a joy to watch, becuse you never know what kind of ball he's gonna dish up. I reckon stick with him, but I'm bias cause I don't like Hogg.
 
intedomine said:
Terrible series, and it is series like this which will firmly establish soccer as Australia's number one sport in the popular opinion as well. Tried watching it for longer than 5 minute periods but couldn't do it, and I was supporting Sri Lanka in this one on principle.

I reckon MacGill's a joy to watch, becuse you never know what kind of ball he's gonna dish up. I reckon stick with him, but I'm bias cause I don't like Hogg.

I was supporting Sri Lanka as well... I hate doing it but when it's so one sided like that.

:lol: at your first comment. Sorry, it will never be Australia's number one sport. It may certainly be catching up on Cricket, and Cricket Australia admit that, but it will never beat Rugby or AFL for popularity.

MacGill can be a joy, but in the second test he was very predictable in that he bowled a full toss or a shit ball every two or three balls. Hoggy's a gun man!

Can't go past Warne though.

And in the paper today that Ranatunga guy who told Murali not to tour Australia has come out and said Murali is a far, far better bowler because he has had to bowl to top orders more often than Warne, who (according to Ranatanga) only bowled to tailenders because McGrath and Gillespie always took the top order batsmen's wickets. He was also coming up with many excuses for why he has performed so badly in Australia, and also said that Murali has a better record in the sub-continent than Warnie which makes him better. What a load of shit! First of all, Murali is from the subcontinent, and has been bowling on it all his life. Second of all, Bangladesh are from the subcontinent as well. Easy wickets.

Warne always was better, always will be.
 
Warne will always be the greatest, and as much as I like Murali, Ranatunga is a useless tosser who makes outlandish statements he can never back up. Crap player too....

I just find Hoggy boring to watch....handy bowler and especially awesome in one-dayers, but I just find him a bore.....

And I meant to say that soccer IS Australia's number one summer sport, that is fact. It is not bigger than AFL, not bigger than league (getting there), but is a lot bigger than Union.
 
I still think it's behind cricket, but by a slim margin. Don't think you'll be able to compete with Boxing Day or the 2020s. It won't pass league, and the A-League is definietly much much bigger than the Super 14s.
 
COBL_04 said:
I still think it's behind cricket, but by a slim margin. Don't think you'll be able to compete with Boxing Day or the 2020s. It won't pass league, and the A-League is definietly much much bigger than the Super 14s.

Boxing Day is one day of an international test match that is given much publicity by the media, and few who go on that day care enough about it to go all five days.

A-League is a domestic club competition in it's third season, so I should bloody hope that Boxing Day will be bigger than any A-League match. I still doubt they'll pull 90,000 for Day 1 of the test anyway.
 
:lol: Looks like this thread will become a sparring match between me and you. Agree with what you said though. And I also think they won't pull anywhere near 90,000 for day one. I don't think they pulled they many for day one of the Ashes last year, and that was massive. And having just looked recently at A League crowds, the support is improving. It's just not being openly embraced by the media.
 
Well trying to resurrect this, the Indian series has begun, and what a cracker of a first day. I was very unhappy for a while, as it looked it might be another fizzer, but then the Indians got on a roll. Terrific crowd, although the sun got to everyone by about 4:30. I'm sunburnt like a bitch. Anil Kumble was superb, you always felt a wicket was not far away, Zaheer Khan stuck to his guns and was justly rewarded, Singh started poorly but fought back, Harbhajan was economical but not dangerous.

Jacques was great until he became a little to aggresive and was stumped, Hayden scored one of his more unspectacular hundreds. Clarke, Symonds and Gilchrist got starts but were never comfortable.

Ganguly copped a lot of shit from us in Bays 11, 12, 13 & 14, including 'Give us a wave', and a few 'Do da, do da, all the do da day' chants. The 'tits out for the boys', 'aussie aussie aussie' and 'you cant stop the wave' and more ran rampant.

Some of the bigger disgraces: My mate was kicked out for blowing up a beach ball, one guy was kicked out for skulling a beer, another kicked out for starting the mexican wave, and a woman behind us who kept telling us to sit down. It's the cricket! We were sitting near a cop who was pretty lenient, he saw who started the wave and didn't evict them, which was great to see. Shithouse rules. Seriously, if you're worried about your safety because a beach ball might hit you, go home.

Bring on day two!
 
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