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Dear God, she was the cutest thing before the haircut.

Oh, uh, really fun card tonight. Lots of blood and gore. I'm disturbed by how quickly I've grown accustomed to watching people lose pints of blood as a UFC viewer.
 
Definitely one of the bloodier cards on the whole in a while.
 
Can we get a picture in here to change the default thing on the forum page from the just bleed guy? The app finally made me update it and I’m thinking I’d rather see Albini’s diaper than that douche.
 
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That belongs on the cover of the video game because that is some video game shiiiiiiiit.
 
Fortunately there’s a bar down the road showing 221. Buffalo Wild Wings isn’t doing PPVs here anymore and there is no way I’d drop 65 bucks for this glorified FS1 card. I wouldn’t even fuck with the headache that is finding a stream for this.
 
There was some good MMA on TV and online last night. LFA on AXS TV and Bellator on Spike Paramount TV

Cowboy on Fox tomorrow, I think his best days are behind him. But I expect him to still put on a good fight. Happy for Ronda to be in the WWE, that is where I thought she would be a nice fit.



edit to add; I have Conor fatigue. He has gotten more out of MMA for himself than anyone. Not sure if what he adds to it is worth what he is taking out.
 
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Benson Henderson kicked Roger Huerta’s ass though.

I’m ready for this UFC card to happen and be over and done with before NYc catches on fire though.
 
The idea that Conor McGregor was able to get into the Barclays Center and down into the loading dock area without the prior knowledge of the UFC and arena security is sheer and utter horse shit.

It's simply not possible.

For White to to on TV and say he got access through a production company is ridiculous, and proves that he knew this was going to happen.
 
This is a guy who managed to say with a straight face that the UFC can’t afford to pay everyone who got pulled off their fight as a result of that bullshit their show + win money. Not exactly a pillar of honesty and integrity.
 
No one would stage an event involving glass. You've got to be out of your mind to think this was staged.

It wasn't at the Barclay's Center during a major event, just media, and there's video of the entire incident. I don't understand why security just stood there, but I guess when you're just hired for the day and 20 thugs converge on the elevator you're guarding, I wouldn't do much either.
 
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No one would stage an event involving glass. You've got to be out of your mind to think this was staged.

It wasn't at the Barclay's Center during a major event, just media, and there's video of the entire incident. I don't understand why security just stood there, but I guess when you're just hired for the day and 20 thugs converge on the elevator you're guarding, I wouldn't do much either.
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Next time you're around a major arena, go ahead and see what happens to you if you try and access the back area. Bring 20 friends if you'd like. Go on. Try it. I'll wait.

And no arena security guards are hired for the day. The same people who work security at NBA games or concerts also work events like this. It's a union job.

I'm not saying that things might not have gone a bit too far.

What I'm saying is that there is a zero percent chance that McGregor could get to where he got to without the advanced knowledge of either UFC or the arena. ESPECIALLY with a crew of 20.

Everyone passes through security. Everyone is screened. NBA players on 20 million dollar contracts have to pass through security to access the building. And they work there.

I'd buy the argument that McGregor acted on his own without White's knowledge if Dana didn't give that horse shit excuse of "he got access through a production company."

Everyone with a press pass is screened, and lists of names are given in advance. They don't just show up with a camera and a piece of paper that says "PRESS" in their hat. Press also wouldn't enter theough the front entrance, which is what McGregor did. They'd enter through the media entrance, and would be subject to security screening.
 
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Was going to share something with you via PM, but my inbox is full, forgot to reup on premium.

Basically, working the show at the Garden, my experience was more like the scenario you're describing sarcastically, but I don't want to go into detail.

Also sorry that my initial reaction post was kinda blunt. I just got back from a road trip to Vegas and I was really tired.

But yeah, I do 100% get where you're coming from as well, so who knows where the truth lies. Maybe somewhere in the middle.
 
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Was going to share something with you via PM, but my inbox is full, forgot to reup on premium.

Basically, working the show at the Garden, my experience was more like the scenario you're describing sarcastically, but I don't want to go into detail.

Also sorry that my initial reaction post was kinda blunt. I just got back from a road trip to Vegas and I was really tired.

But yeah, I do 100% get where you're coming from as well, so who knows where the truth lies. Maybe somewhere in the middle.
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I've had many a day after Vegas trips... So no worries from me :up:
 
come on... there's no way dana white staged this. he staged a violent rampage in which his most famous fighter is inevitably going to get arrested and risk serious injury for several other fighters and ufc/arena employees for...what exactly? what besides bad publicity would the ufc possibly stand to gain from staging something like this.

i would bet that security let him and his gang through because if conor freaking mcgregor (an instantly recognizable ufc fighter arriving at an official ufc event) and 20 of his jacked up fighter buddies come to my security gate and demanding entrance you better believe there isn't enough money in the whole ufc that would get me to stand in the way of that and try to stop it. no sane person is going to deliberately get themselves stomped to an inch of their life by 20 mma fighters for the sake of a union job. there's no conspiracy here, just an idiotic thug setting his career on fire.
 
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Sure.

When he's charged with a misdemeanor, fighting again, and all lawsuits are settled then come back to me.

20 people barged through security... which sits above a major transit hub and is directly across the street from the 78th Precinct, and security just shrugged their shoulders? Right.

And if that happened, why wouldn't Dana White say that? He said they were able to access the arena by getting press passes.

I'm not saying White knew what McGregor was going to throw some shit through a glass window. He easily could have flown off the handle and gone too far.

But White's publicly given reason for how McGregor and his crew accessed the arena is a pile of horse shit. There is zero chance that UFC didn't know McGregor was coming.

Whether they knew what he would do or not is a different story. But if they didn't know he'd do something (even if they didn't know how far he'd go), why lie about how he accessed the arena?
 
Just to add a small correction, they didn't say he got press passes, friends of his who are part of his video crew possess press passes, as they are at events even if Conor isn't, and they are the ones who opened the door for him.
 
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Just to add a small correction, they didn't say he got press passes, friends of his who are part of his video crew possess press passes, as they are at events even if Conor isn't, and they are the ones who opened the door for him.
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Ok.... Sure.

So I don't know what the door situation at Barclays is. But I know in our building the doors that aren't in use are locked and alarmed, and the elevator to get to the event level require HID card swipe access at all times.

Tonight I had to escort a prominent member of the 78 championship team into the building because he didn't have his pass and I saw him arguing with security who wouldn't let him in.

I have an incredibly difficult time believing that an arena like Barclays just let these 20 dudes waltz into the arena without permission and access the loading dock area.
 
I only added that because I wasn't sure if you were aware or not.

Have you seen the video of them actually getting into the elevator?
 
Right after it happened, Dana was also saying the cops were searching for McGregor and that he had a warrant out. And then when asked about it, the cops were like um what? The guy just says stuff, given his track record
of Just Saying Shit, I’d believe it more if he had no idea how they got in and just Said Some Shit. It’s what he does. To me that’s a way more likely, simpler story than DW told him “go all WWE on that bus and majorly screw up this card for us.”

The shitty thing about mma is that McGregor being around an event generates more throwaway headlines and clicks than any article about the fighters actually fighting. Tony Ferguson trips on a cord and blows out his knee because he’s a moron wearing his sunglasses indoors is a story to those of us who frequent* this thread. But it’s not pulling anyone else in to discuss how totally ridiculous/bullshit/conspiracy theory it is that a major fight card main event can fall apart over something so dumb. McGregor shows up, and even if he doesn’t act like a raging maniac, his existence gets more eyeballs on the fact that there’s a card. I’m sure they wanted him nearby to hype a future fight that will never happen between him and Khabib. But instead of a mild-mannered “I am not impressed with your performance,” (or even Dave Sholler getting shoved through a banner) they lost half the fights on the card between people anyone’s heard of.




*I use the term loosely, no one frequents anything on this board anymore and this thread is no exception.
 
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I'm pretty much done watching UFC after Dana's newfound "mutual respect" for Conor following rumors of a modified rules fight with Floyd. I hope some Michael Chiesa fans chuck a dolly through his windshield.
 
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I only added that because I wasn't sure if you were aware or not.

Have you seen the video of them actually getting into the elevator?
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You mean the video of them calmly boarding the elevator with Barclays Center staff assisting them (I like how the staff member in the elevator made sure a member of the attacking horde kept his arm inside the elevator) and conveniently placed press that just happened to be standing on the concourse?
 
I’d call this espn+ deal total bullshit, but that would be an understatement.
 
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