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Old 10-12-2016, 08:54 AM   #841
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The other thing about the women's game is that because it's a little less developed than the men's game - all these people who complain about footy not being what it used to be should tune into the women's game, because it's how the men's game was being played 20-30 years ago - full forwards vs full backs, midfielders who'll burst out of the middle, ruckwomen being super influential.

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Old 10-12-2016, 05:23 PM   #842
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Some credit has to go to the AFL too. All the people I spoke with said 2020 was their hope for a national league; that we've got one for 2017 is awesome.
I don't know, compared to cricket and soccer the AFL seems like a bit of a johnny-come-lately to me.

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all these people who complain about footy not being what it used to be should tune into the women's game, because it's how the men's game was being played 20-30 years ago
The sad part is that these are the same wankers who'd watch the women's game, proclaim the players are all shit and talentless, and immediately dismiss it. They're whingers who are never happy, and in 20 years will moan that footy isn't like it was in those glory days of 2016.
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^yes, true.

Btw, your crush Russell Jackson sides with me on Kyrgios: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...P=share_btn_tw
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I would definitely take the less sympathetic view of his childishness - that he is simply an unpleasant, immature, self-absorbed person, the latest in Australia's production line of poorly behaved tennis stars, who has never even had the incentive to behave like a sensible, mature adult.
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The thing about Kyrgios is that he's into his 20s and he still does the sort of shit on court that the vast majority of tennis players would have ceased doing by 15-16 years old. I was hardly an example of a cool head back when I used to play but I don't remember completely giving up on a point like he does past the age of 14/15.

I think it's a staggering indictment on Australian sportsmen that they were able to produce someone even more petulant than Tomic and for him to arrive only a handful of years after Tomic did.
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Sam Mitchell, four-time premiership player, 300+ gamer, former captain of the Hawthorn Football Club, was just traded to West Coast for pick 88.
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He's more or less retired, from Mitchell's perspective, hasn't he?

He's surely not playing for premierships at West Coast, he's signalling his intention to be taken seriously as a career coach.

What are the West Coast trying to gain from it? Just another good midfielder for a year or two?


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It's a bit concerning that nobody seems to want Tom Rockliff.
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Rockliff may be one of Brisbane's better players but good grief that's not saying much. I don't like seeing the Lions this bad and I hope they pick up some decent talent this off-season.

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Going to laugh if Hawthorn don't even use pick 88.
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I think clubs view Rockliff as damaged goods. Maybe it ends up that he has to stay at Brisbane by necessity and under Fagan rediscovers his best.

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He's more or less retired, from Mitchell's perspective, hasn't he?

He's surely not playing for premierships at West Coast, he's signalling his intention to be taken seriously as a career coach.

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You're way off! He may be 34 but he's just won his fifth club b&f. Polled 16 Brownlow votes. And he would absolutely be a star for Hawthorn next year.

He's not playing for premierships (although West Coast certainly aren't out of 2017 contention) but I see it as a smart, pragmatic life move. He gets to know the club and players for one or two years on field before settling into an assistant coach role.

West Coast get a champion midfielder in terrific form who'll become a great assistant coach. Hawks relieve salary cap pressure. It's win-win-win.
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Rockliff may be one of Brisbane's better players but good grief that's not saying much. I don't like seeing the Lions this bad and I hope they pick up some decent talent this off-season.
He's close to an A-grader and is a pretty consistent performer. Worth a first rounder at the very least. My post alluded to certain issues regarding him that seem to suggest that no club seems to want him despite Brisbane shopping him around.
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You're way off! He may be 34 but he's just won his fifth club b&f. Polled 16 Brownlow votes. And he would absolutely be a star for Hawthorn next year.



He's not playing for premierships (although West Coast certainly aren't out of 2017 contention) but I see it as a smart, pragmatic life move. He gets to know the club and players for one or two years on field before settling into an assistant coach role.



West Coast get a champion midfielder in terrific form who'll become a great assistant coach. Hawks relieve salary cap pressure. It's win-win-win.

He's an absolute gun. No question. Tons of ability and super form. And definitely a smart decision for him and Hawthorn. I just wonder about his on-field drive to succeed as a footballer... and whether this might be of concern for West Coast. We'll see.


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I'm much more interested in the Jordan Lewis stuff. Hawthorn are really fucking up if they say goodbye to him


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Now Jordan Lewis to Melbourne?

What are Hawthorn thinking.
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I really wish AFL.com.au would stop citing Rucci as a source. It's astounding how hostile he's been to the Crows in this Trade Period and also how he pulls contradictory shit out of his ass constantly.
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