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Old 03-12-2009, 07:56 PM   #16
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I'm excited by all this talk that this season will be the closest in a while.
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I don't think I'm gonna have enough money to go to our GP and see The Who
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I'm excited by all this talk that this season will be the closest in a while.
Well, depends on your definition of close and how it's calculated. F1 just changed their scoring rules, and the driver's champion will be determined by number of wins instead of points.

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3/17/2009 10:50:11 AM

MADRID - Formula One's championship will be decided by the number of race wins and not accumulated points.

Governing body FIA decided Tuesday that the current points system will remain in effect only to determine the driver's title in the case of a tie, with points also determining the order of the drivers who finish the season behind the overall champion.

FIA also approved further changes to cut costs in the face of the economic crisis, including a voluntary budget cap on teams.
Under the new scoring system, Ferrari's Felipe Massa would have won the 2008 championship ahead of Lewis Hamilton of McLaren. The Brazilian driver won six grand prix races to Hamilton's five, but the British racer took the title by one point, 98-97, after finishing fifth in the season-ending Brazilian GP.

Overall, the title winner would have been different on 13 occasions if the new proposal had been in place since the first championship in 1950.

The 10 F1 teams had been looking to change the points to a 12-9-7 scoring system for first through third place, from its current 10-9-8 allocation. But FIA rejected that proposal.

F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone had initially suggested a medals system, with gold for the winner, silver for second and bronze for third.

The new formula does not affect the constructors' championship, which will continue to be decided by the usual points system.
FIA's World Motor Sports Council, at its meeting in Paris, also approved further cost-cutting measures.

"No one can say the situation will not deteriorate further in the coming months. If we wait and things get worse, it will be too late," FIA president Max Mosley said after FIA offered an option to teams to compete with cars built and operated "within a stringent cost cap."

A proposed cap of 30 million pounds (C$53.5 million) would cover expenditures of "any kind" and give such cars greater technical freedom. That would entail "a more aerodynamically efficient upper body, movable wings and an engine which is not subject to a rev limit or a development freeze."

Everything from drivers' and team principals' salaries to luxury jets would be included in the cap.

"From the grandstand or on television (the cars) won't look or sound any less `Formula One' than the current, ultra-expensive cars," Mosley said. "These rules will encourage clever engineering -- success will come to the teams with the best ideas, not only the teams with the most money."

Mosley said such a team could compete with giants like Ferrari and McLaren -- which are unlikely to take up the initiative -- since top engineers are always available.

Car weights will be published following Saturday's qualifying session and would rename tire grades for better clarity to spectators. Drivers must also be available for further autograph sessions and better media availability.

F1 teams will also be limited to eight one-day aerodynamic tests during the course of the season instead of a total ban on in-season testing, and allowed three one-day "young driver" tests featuring pilots who have not raced more than two GPs in the preceding 24 months.

The council, meeting before the start of the season-opening Australian Grand Prix on March 29, also rubber-stamped Brawn GP's purchase of Honda.
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I don't know if I'm a fan of that rule... really breaking convention there. It should be the other way round; if there's a points tie, whoever won more races wins the championship on countback.

That means we could have a winner on say 58 points, and he wins five races, yet say Hamilton finishes with 108 points, but only wins three. I mean that's unlikely, but still.
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Fuck the FIA.

I've been saying it for years and I'll say it again now
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Fuck Biggie!

Sorry. Had to do that.
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So next week's race in Melb is gonna be a twilight race, to get the European/Asian/Middle East TV markets, huh? I'd like someone, other than Bernie, tell us if it's actually going to work....

And Danny, where's this year's V8 thread??
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Fuck Max.
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Fuck the FIA.

I've been saying it for years and I'll say it again now

Fuckin eh rights to that!! These tossbags need to be stopped asap.
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So next week's race in Melb is gonna be a twilight race, to get the European/Asian/Middle East TV markets, huh? I'd like someone, other than Bernie, tell us if it's actually going to work....

And Danny, where's this year's V8 thread??
Oh shit, forgot about that. I'll get onto it. Far as I'm concerned season hasn't started yet
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Well, depends on your definition of close and how it's calculated. F1 just changed their scoring rules, and the driver's champion will be determined by number of wins instead of points.
I heard the teams protested against this rule and (at least for this year) the old system will be used. They're(FIA) planning to use the new scoring rules in 2010 but I hope they just don't.
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^ Correct. Brawn, Toyota and another team are to have their cars inspected too, because they are apparently too good and Maxy wants to know if they are in line with the aerodynamic rules.

The Sports Network - Formula One - points system revoked.

I really like this idea, 12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1. Perfect.
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Oh shit, forgot about that. I'll get onto it. Far as I'm concerned season hasn't started yet
Ignoring it won't make it go away.....
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^ Correct. Brawn, Toyota and another team are to have their cars inspected too, because they are apparently too good and Maxy wants to know if they are in line with the aerodynamic rules.

The Sports Network - Formula One - points system revoked.

I really like this idea, 12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1. Perfect.

I know the 12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1. system was a much better idea! I couldn't believe the FIA didn't pay any attention to it!

Might not be in line with the new aerodynamic rules? Max just needs to bitch about something else now, since his "points system toy" got taken away...
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I know the 12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1. system was a much better idea! I couldn't believe the FIA didn't pay any attention to it!

Might not be in line with the new aerodynamic rules? Max just needs to bitch about something else now, since his "points system toy" got taken away...
Well apparently whoever wins Sunday's GP might not be the official winner for months.. the big 3 bitched and moaned and there's going to be a massive investigation.

Current Win Odds
BUTTON Jenson 4.50$
RAIKKONEN Kimi 5.00$
BARRICHELLO Rubens 6.00$
ALONSO Fernando 7.50$
MASSA Felipe 7.50$
HAMILTON Lewis 13.00$
KUBICA Robert 13.00$
HEIDFELD Nick 21.00$
TRULLI Jarno 21.00$
GLOCK Timo 26.00$
NAKAJIMA Kazuki 26.00$
ROSBERG Nico 26.00$
VETTEL Sebastien 34.00$
KOVALAINEN Heikki 41.00$
WEBBER Mark 41.00$
PIQUET Nelsinho 101.00$
BORDAIS Sebastien 201.00$
BUEMI Sebastien 251.00$
FISICHELLA Giancarlo 301.00$
SUTIL Adrian 401.00
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^ I really don't get this. Why do they have to create last minute regulation changes like this?
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