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Old 08-19-2016, 11:57 AM   #286
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yea i'm a fan of all the different events. i don't really care about the medal table. i get a little bored of swimming and gymnastics by the end of it, but now when i can watch any event live on demand it doesn't bother me too much.

cbc just broadcast a car karaoke video they made with half a dozen members of the canadian women's soccer team and the talking heads in the studio proceeded to talk over the entire thing to the point where you actually couldn't tell what song they were even doing.

google with the deliciously sarcastic choice of image for the 4x100m relay:



finally, lochte is #sorrynotsorry:



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Old 08-19-2016, 01:07 PM   #287
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As for competing in multiple olympics, it depends on the sport. Equestrian riders can complete in many Olympics as can sailors. There was a wrestler that was going for her 3rd straight Gold. The Williams sisters have competed in 4 games. These days, with the advances in training and medical care, it does seem that competitors can compete longer even in the more physically demanding sports. Gymnastics may actually be an outlier here because of how hard it is on the body.

absolutely. i think we're going to see longer and longer careers in many sports, and likely more people with multiple Olympic medals, particularly given how lucrative Olympic sports can be (Bolt, Kim Yuna, etc.)

there's only one swimmer in the top 10 of all-time medalists, Phelps. the rest are gymnastics (4 entrants), biathalon, fencing, and athletics. you get more swimmers in the top 20, but they are all Americans who make multiple appearances on relays.

it really is a mistake to look at Phelps and think that he is somehow indicative of the opportunities available to the typical Olympic swimmer. he has 28 medals, 23 of them gold. the next closest male medalist is International Supervillain Ryan Lochte who has 12. only 6 of those are gold. Phelps achieves on a level 2-3x that of the absolute best swimmers in history. we could even pretend that Phelps isn't an American, and isn't swimming on 3 medal winning relays during the Olympics, and he still has easily the most individual gold medals (and, without having to mentally and physically perform on the relays, you could argue that his individual performances would be even better as he'd have fewer overall events and more rest). on the list of individual gold medals, Phelps has the most golds (13 compared to #2 with 8) and overall medals (16 compared to #2 with 14) and he's the only swimmer in the top 10, and only 1 of 2 in the top 20 (the other being Egerszegi of Hungary).

there's a video of the Australian swim team at a press conference looking kind of shell shocked and trying to explain their lackluster performance to the media, and Mitch Larkin says something to the effect of, "i know that Michael Phelps makes it look easy, but winning one medal, let alone several medals, is really incredibly hard." and i think that's broadly true -- people who only see swimming once every four years see Phelps and think this is somehow expected or probable. it's not. it's unimaginable. not impossible, as, yes, there are multiple events in swimming and it isn't as rough on your body as running. but he's such an outlier within the sport itself.

also, i wasn't aware that there was a Gabby Douglas controversy? i guess a few people on twitter says something about her not putting her hand over her heart? these people are idiots and fools and likely Trump voters, but is this really something from which we can extrapolate "how we talk" about social issues? i'm getting tired of articles where people take a few dumb tweets as indicative of what "many people are saying" about this and that social issue. i can take (and agree with) the broader point(s), but these are awfully sweeping statements to make.
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Old 08-19-2016, 01:17 PM   #288
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absolutely. i think we're going to see longer and longer careers in many sports, and likely more people with multiple Olympic medals, particularly given how lucrative Olympic sports can be (Bolt, Kim Yuna, etc.)

there's only one swimmer in the top 10 of all-time medalists, Phelps. the rest are gymnastics (4 entrants), biathalon, fencing, and athletics. you get more swimmers in the top 20, but they are all Americans who make multiple appearances on relays.
and that's exactly it. in sports with many individual and team competitions, where the teams usually comprise those who are most successful in the individual competitions, people are inherently going to get lots of medals over their careers. the only way to change it is to take out a ton of events, which would be an absolutely silly thing for any competition to do if cost and time isn't a big factor. even the ability to say someone is "going for six medals" creates hype, regardless of if they win or not. there's a reason swimming, gymnastics, and athletics (also speed skating) are the most popular tv events every olympics.
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And gymnastics, like figure skating, has the drama of judges, as well as being highly visually appealing. There's also the baked in drama of girls going after their dreams while mom watches in the stands -- NBC needs that shit for ratings.
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that greek dude that won the rings sure was "highly visually appealing".

his performance, i mean.

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Old 08-19-2016, 02:16 PM   #291
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Speaking of visually appealing, the silver medalist in decathalon was a mighty fine looking Frenchman.

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pretty sure they woulda called this guy "hercules" about 3500 years ago:



 
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Old 08-19-2016, 10:17 PM   #293
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Leave it the the 4x100 relay to bring drama. The USA Women dominated from lane 1. Impressive.
Usain Bolt was incredible on his anchor leg to win gold. Japan was so far ahead of the USA and Canada after the 3rd leg they won silver.
And the USA. Oh the USA. Thought they won Bronze, did a victory lap, then saw they were DQ'd on the board. Ouch. Thus Canada wins the bronze. Wow.

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It's a shame the hammer throw and pole vault were on at the same time (especially as the hammer throw winner was the first ever gold medal for Tajikistan). I hadn't seen any hammer throw these games, but pole vault is my favourite athletics event so it was a no-brainer, especially with Eliza McCartney seemingly coming from nowhere to win bronze for New Zealand with such joy. Then the tense competition between Stefanidi and Morris for the gold was amazing - I totally thought for a second that Morris had cleared her final jump to take the gold from Stefanidi, and then down came the bar.

And, well, what can you even say about Bolt doing the triple triple. Pretty sure he's succeeded in his ambition to be spoken of in the same breath as Pele and Muhammad Ali.
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I love the pole vault too. Talk about events that are aesthetically pleasing. It's just gorgeous to watch.
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Between Eliza McCartney, Val Adams and Lydia Ko being proud of anything, our female athletes put most men to shame.
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That pole vault competition was fierce. But I also loved how supportive they are of each other. McCartney was so adorable and thilled with her bronze. yeah I totally thought Morris cleared.

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Between Eliza McCartney, Val Adams and Lydia Ko being proud of anything, our female athletes put most men to shame.
So gutted Val just missed that gold though.
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I see no reason why male beach volleyball players can't play shirtless.

Everyone likes Top Gun.

And this is why no one cares about men's beach volleyball. The only reason people watch women's is cos they're in bikinis.
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The only reason people watch women's is cos they're in bikinis.
Or because beach volleyball is awesome?
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