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Old 05-07-2009, 12:53 AM   #76
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I happen to agree with you, Andrew johns was a wonderful player, without him we wouldn't have one half the origins we did.

It's a shame his career went down like it did, with the drug use becoming public knowledge. Not that I condone drug taking, but it makes you wonder how many other players do this.
It's very true. I can tell you that most take recreational drugs. Most sportspeople do. I played junior football for the Knights with Mullen, Ben Farrer from the Cowboys, Kade Snowden from the Sharks, Aiden Kirk form the Warriors, Terrance Seu Seu from the Sharks and Luke Walsh from the Panthers. I haven't known these guys to get into it, but ive heard stories about a lot of players.

Recreational drugs arent performance enhancers, and im glad that not many have gone as far as to call him a drug cheat.

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lockyer > johns


yeah, i went there.
I have watched 99% of the football games played for the last 10 years or so. No joke. Since FOX played games, I have watched them all. Lockyer is fantastic. He has never inspired one person to claim he was the best ever. not one. If he was mentioned in the same breathe as raper, gasnier, churchill and co, people would say that you can't compare accross era's, leave it at that.

Almost every respected past and present football commentator, ex-player or official has said it is UNFAIR to compare Johns to those guys, because it would ruin their reputations.

If their skill level was the same Johns would still have him covered because he defended like a prop. Johns could do things noone in the game will ever be able to do again. He saw the game differently to everyone else.

Een, I respect you, but making claims like that not only makes you look silly, but it also makes you look ignorant
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:56 AM   #77
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I will add that it was always going to happen that people would eventually start to wane on the Andrew Johns lore. While he was still going and still wowing, there was no denying it. The curse of time in his case is that people will now go back and think, "oh, he wasn't THAT good". He bloody was.

I saw him play over 150 games at Marathon Stadium (now horribly named Energy Australia Stadium). You will never be able to convince me that Lockyer was worthy of carrying his sweat towels
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Old 05-07-2009, 01:23 AM   #78
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YouTube - Andrew Johns Tribute - Footy Show mod

And for NFL fans... this is real football: no padding, just solid body contact
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:36 AM   #79
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Speaking of Lockyer. (Who I call smiley, because I have never seen him smile.)

I think he happens to be a mighty fine player. I actually think he might be the next great player in the game.

But it is also a shame that he has come far in the game, and only starting to get the credit in the last few years.
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Old 05-08-2009, 03:12 AM   #80
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ok, i really only said that for a reaction.


anyway, on a different note, how excited are we all that cronulla seem to be on their deathbed? i don't know how the club is viable. i say we buy them up (as in a handful of us on interference), sell the land the stadium and club property is on, sell on the license and take the profits of the land sale.
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Old 05-08-2009, 06:54 AM   #81
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^ great plan.

How good is Hohaia going at hooker.

He needs his hands on the pall more with the warriors.

Thurston is the king. They know the dummy is coming but they still can't stop it.
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seriously, they'd better be careful or someone will do that. that land is very fucking valuable.

hohaia has just reached another level since he had to step in at fullback for wade mckinnon last year. finally he has a coach who recognises that he isn't a half. he's definitely a great hooker as well, he's just that damn elusive. given the warriors problems in the backline, however, i'd love to see him given a go at centre, either to replace the fucking walking turnstile in jerome ropati or on the other side to see if we can actually attack down two sides instead of always going to manu.

i barely watched the test, knew what was going to happen.
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Old 05-11-2009, 12:03 AM   #83
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Thurston, what a 24 hours!

5 tries and 9 goals... He is a freak. Scott Prince can feel pretty inadequate about himself now!
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damn i'm feeling really unenthusiastic about this season.

warriors with almost their strongest side of the year this week. we don't win, i'm calling it over.
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damn i'm feeling really unenthusiastic about this season.

warriors with almost their strongest side of the year this week. we don't win, i'm calling it over.
i'll be there for two games, isn't that enthusiasm enough? :whine:
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i'll be there for two games, isn't that enthusiasm enough? :whine:
way to get me all excited agearn
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Matt Johns suspended by Channel 9. Good or bad?

I think the whole League's attitude to women is reprehensible, but should someone be fired for participating in a legal and consensual sexual act? He did nothing illegal
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good.

i'm sick of the attitude towards women from so many players in this sport. sure, she agreed initially, but if you've got people climbing in windows, it's not right.

anyone done for this kind of thing should be suspended indefinitely, just because they've got fucking rocks in their head. don't put yourself in the situation.
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Can someone just clear up for me, no other crap, what it was exactly (and when) Johns did? I don't know the story but a lot of these things are oversensationalised and players get victimised when many worse things happen with men/women in the general public every day..
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it sounds like he took part in this group sex thing with a 19 year old. apparently she was consenting (at first anyway) but obviously something happened during the incident that gave her severe emotional trauma. i'm too lazy to look for more info though
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