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Old 07-04-2016, 04:46 PM   #691
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The soft millenials are screwing up sports. Lame.


As well as the stitching on their jerseys.


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Old 07-04-2016, 05:00 PM   #692
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So Curry will be the 4th highest paid Warrior next season.
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Old 07-04-2016, 06:55 PM   #693
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So Curry will be the 4th highest paid Warrior next season.

Under Armor has that covered, don't worry.
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Jesus fucking christ. That's depressing.
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Old 07-04-2016, 08:00 PM   #695
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Still, at least it lead to this.

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Old 07-04-2016, 08:06 PM   #696
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This is like when Buddy left the Hawks for the Swans.
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Old 07-04-2016, 09:59 PM   #697
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It's actually worse because the Thunder have never won anything, whereas Hawthorn just had in 2013. KD took a franchise right on the brink of championship contention and blew it up.

I think of it as analogous to Ablett dumping the Suns to play for Hawthorn because he was tired of losing. There's a if-you-can't-beat-em-join-em thinking behind it that's turning a lot of people off. After all, Karl Malone didn't plead to sign to the Bulls after failing multiple times to beat them (though his move to the Lakers had a similar kind of logic to it).

I get what KD's doing and can't blame him for trying to bolster his legacy, but it is disappointing. I don't want to make things tougher for the Bulls but it would have been cool if the Celtics had gotten him, just to give the Cavs some competition.
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Old 07-04-2016, 11:23 PM   #698
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After all, Karl Malone didn't plead to sign to the Bulls after failing multiple times to beat them (though his move to the Lakers had a similar kind of logic to it).
Most Jazz fans didn't begrudge Malone for trying to get a ring with the Lakers at the end of his career. He had given it everything he had for 18 seasons in Utah. Stockton had retired and the Jazz were trending downward having not gotten out the first round the two seasons prior. It was obvious the Jazz were going to have to rebuild anyway.
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Most Jazz fans didn't begrudge Malone for trying to get a ring with the Lakers at the end of his career. He had given it everything he had for 18 seasons in Utah. Stockton had retired and the Jazz were trending downward having not gotten out the first round the two seasons prior. It was obvious the Jazz were going to have to rebuild anyway.

Yeah, I agree that's different. 18 years is more than long enough, he paid his dues. One of the most loyal NBA players of my lifetime.

KD was in the Sonics/Thunder franchise for 9 years and stuck around for their move, which is admirable. I don't blame him for leaving, it's just disappointing that the rich are getting richer.
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I'm not sure why this comes as a shock though, aren't American sports engineered this way? Not quite to a soccer extent, but you don't really have the cyclical nature that the AFL has. Big money talks.
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Depends on the sport and the adjacent salary cap. It's very, very difficult to stockpile quality players after a championship in the NFL and NHL. Going to a championship and falling short is a known "curse" in the NFL, though really a dip there is just common sense.

NBA and MLB (which has no salary cap, though there is a luxury tax to consider) allows a bit more room to create "dream teams" contingent on market size and the aggression of its ownership in free agency.

I feel like the AFL is a bit more hands on with adjusting competitive balance than the American leagues though, definitely. Maybe not NFL; I would say there are parallels between the two.
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I'm not sure why this comes as a shock though, aren't American sports engineered this way? Not quite to a soccer extent, but you don't really have the cyclical nature that the AFL has. Big money talks.

Basketball has tried to fight it. Football and hockey are not set up like that at all.

And even baseball, with no salary cap, allows for teams to remain competitive through long periods of arbitration.

The NBA's cap is just really easy to circumvent. It's a product of small roster sizes, if you ask me.
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Yes, I was thinking about this last week. The NHL has a hard cap of $72 million this season, but that has to be spread across 23 players. Meanwhile, the NBA has a soft cap of $94 million for 15 players. So therein lies one of big issues we are seeing this summer.

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What is a "soft cap"? And are there restrictions imposed on third-party deals? Or can a club get a player over the line with a gigantic sponsorship deal?
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Old 07-05-2016, 07:05 AM   #705
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I would really hate a hard cap for the NBA. It's really just a way of getting money from players to the owners. At some point, you just have to live with the consequences of superteams. Let players choose their employers like any of us do.

Cobbler: there are more details involved, but basically you can go over the cap to sign your own players, but not other teams'. This is a good thing for teams that wish to retain the talent they developed, but can be used creatively by smart teams to increase payroll.
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