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Old 06-06-2016, 06:25 PM   #256
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Patrick Roy is off to a decent start. Gretzky wasn't terrible. Wasn't good, but wasn't bad. Don't think he had tons to work with.
But the measure of success is championships or, at the very least, consistent playoff appearances or deep runs. And by that metric, most superstar players never become good coaches.

I wonder if Peyton will become a coach and how he can translate his high football IQ to that role.
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I can't think of any good reason why Peyton would be a bad coach. At the very least, he would be a terrific offensive coordinator, he's been in that role for years.
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It's obviously not a guarantee, but it's close.

But even if, say, someone like LeBron could make a good coach; why would he want to? Guy's gonna be a billionaire. He really wants to sit up all night scouting and watching game tape?
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Joe Torre was a great player and later a great manager.
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But the measure of success is championships or, at the very least, consistent playoff appearances or deep runs. And by that metric, most superstar players never become good coaches.

I wonder if Peyton will become a coach and how he can translate his high football IQ to that role.


And I would imagine both Gretzky and Roy are far too young to have their cases closed just yet.

Also, depends where you're setting your bar. Lots of great players were coaches or are coaches. Trottier. Gallant. Just two that come to mind.
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Joe Torre was a great player and later a great manager.
Joe Torre was an above average catcher. I'd hardly call him a great player.
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Says the bitter Mets fan.
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I did not realize how good Torre was. Pretty impressive career he put together.
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Says the bitter Mets fan.
Torre played for the Mets.
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Torre played for the Mets.
I think that was his point
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Old 06-07-2016, 09:21 AM   #266
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You guys should watch more soccer. Lots of examples of former stars turned into good coaches.

Johan Cruyff (possibly the greatest coach of all time?); Franz Beckenbauer; Mario Zagalo (I never liked him as a coach, but the resume is there).

Of current players, perhaps Zidane will be one. Klismann is not that great a coach, but maybe he fits the category too (he coaches a bad team that arguably overachieved in the latest World Cup). Guardiola was not a star, but did play for his national team.
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Soccer obviously plays more towards star players also being team oriented, so yea.
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I think that was his point
I took it as Torre managed the cross town Yanks to several WS titles including one against the Mets.
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