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NBA 2016-17: The Season After the Warriors Blew a 3-1 Lead
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cobl04
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I just find it staggering. Like, reading that Players Tribune piece, Isaiah has to uproot his entire life, move his family, completely change his mindset when he had a long-term plan in mind, and he has no idea until the deal has been done?
The first situation you speak of is kind of fine to me, but surely teams have a duty of care to players to keep them aware.
I find what happened to Isaiah Thomas sickening. It affects his entire family, and he just gets told over a phone call? And has no input?
Hewson
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Yet at the end of this upcoming season Thomas will be a free agent, and can sign with whatever team he chooses, be it staying in Cleveland or moving on to somewhere else, and for potentially near $30 Million per season if he plays at a level this year comparable to last. And he can leave the Cavaliers for Miami or Los Angeles without allowing any input by the Cavs ownership if he so chooses.
BoMac
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To add to Hewson's point, the NBA, NHL, and NFL have their amateur draft before the start of free agency.
This can be problematic for teams. In 2014, the Miami Heat drafted a player that was highly touted by LeBron in order to appease him. Two weeks later LeBron bolts for Cleveland, leaving Miami with a player they likely would not have drafted if they had known James was leaving. In fact, they may have been inclined to move up in the draft to select a better player if they had known about LeBron's intentions.
So it works both ways.
This can be problematic for teams. In 2014, the Miami Heat drafted a player that was highly touted by LeBron in order to appease him. Two weeks later LeBron bolts for Cleveland, leaving Miami with a player they likely would not have drafted if they had known James was leaving. In fact, they may have been inclined to move up in the draft to select a better player if they had known about LeBron's intentions.
So it works both ways.
cobl04
45:33
This might be a little bit socialist of me, but fuck the teams. That's their own fault for trying to build regimes. And I find it really hard to believe Miami had no idea he'd leave.
But I think that's just because AFL operates in a certain way.
And this is a circular argument, because the sport I've followed and loved all my life is very, very different; there is an element of individuality in American sport that isn't present in AFL, and I'm very thankful for that.
But I think that's just because AFL operates in a certain way.
And this is a circular argument, because the sport I've followed and loved all my life is very, very different; there is an element of individuality in American sport that isn't present in AFL, and I'm very thankful for that.
iron yuppie
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I see Cobbler's mentality in this particular case, which was especially bad for Thomas. The way it dragged out aired serious questions about his long-term health to the entire league, probably costing him a lot of money in free agency even if he does return to form this season.
cobl04
45:33
Also, reading his article, he clearly would have stayed at Boston as a free agent.
iron yuppie
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Well that's harder to say. He clearly wants a max contract; I doubt Boston would have given him one, so he likely would have gone to whatever team was willing to.
cobl04
45:33
Am I naive for thinking that that article made it clear he was a Boston man for the rest of his career?
The idea that Thomas had no clue that he might be traded is a load of crap.
Not saying that Boston trading him was kinda shady, but it isn't as if Thomas's long term future in Boston, or potential lack thereof, hadn't been a common topic of discussion during the offseason.
The Celtics could have been a little more forthcoming with him, and the timing was surprising; but it was hardly a secret that Boston was exploring moving on.
Not saying that Boston trading him was kinda shady, but it isn't as if Thomas's long term future in Boston, or potential lack thereof, hadn't been a common topic of discussion during the offseason.
The Celtics could have been a little more forthcoming with him, and the timing was surprising; but it was hardly a secret that Boston was exploring moving on.
GirlsAloudFan
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This is all meaningless debate when Lonzo and the Lakers leave the rest of the league in the dust.
But it was fairly clear that Boston probably didn't want to resign him, no matter what IT wanted.
Which is why I he's either naive or wilfully ignorant to be shocked that he was traded.
Hewson
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The Celts might have been willing to re-sign Thomas, but not at the max, and Thomas had made it clear he was going to look for a max deal, even said in one post game interview (paraphrasing),"they're gonna have to back up the Brinks truck to re-sign me".
So he made it pretty clear to the Celtics that he was going to cost them about 30 mil per season to stay. They weren't sold on that kind of contract for a guy his size and age before the hip injury, so him being traded shouldn't be a shock to anyone. Being able to use him to get a player 3 years younger, bigger and frankly better and under contract for longer is kind of a no brainer. Obviously the deal hinged on the draft pick, but Thomas had to be part of it as well for both sides.
And him being totally blindsided is a crock of shit. I heard rumors of the deal 2 weeks before it went down. The terms mentioned then were exactly the same except the 3rd player was Yabusele instead of Zizic. No way if that rumor was out there Thomas had no clue about it for 2+ weeks.
So he made it pretty clear to the Celtics that he was going to cost them about 30 mil per season to stay. They weren't sold on that kind of contract for a guy his size and age before the hip injury, so him being traded shouldn't be a shock to anyone. Being able to use him to get a player 3 years younger, bigger and frankly better and under contract for longer is kind of a no brainer. Obviously the deal hinged on the draft pick, but Thomas had to be part of it as well for both sides.
And him being totally blindsided is a crock of shit. I heard rumors of the deal 2 weeks before it went down. The terms mentioned then were exactly the same except the 3rd player was Yabusele instead of Zizic. No way if that rumor was out there Thomas had no clue about it for 2+ weeks.
How about my Mystics, eh? Eh?
It would appear as if Kyrie is not exactly a LeBron fan.
LuckyNumber7
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Dunno. His response was very honest and was very true. Why should he have to consult LeBron James?
If he doesn't like LeBron... well... that's probably because LeBron doesn't like him. Probably because he's sort of a moron.
No you're right his response totally came off as that of someone who had a great relationship with his co-worker.
LuckyNumber7
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His response to me suggested that he had no personal relationship with LeBron and thereby no reason to tell him.
Obviously things are probably sour between them, but I'm not sure what they *want* the answer to be. LeBron is a player, not a manager or coach. Nobody owes LeBron justification.
Obviously things are probably sour between them, but I'm not sure what they *want* the answer to be. LeBron is a player, not a manager or coach. Nobody owes LeBron justification.
LuckyNumber7
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His response to me suggested that he had no personal relationship with LeBron and thereby no reason to tell him.
Obviously things are probably sour between them, but I'm not sure what they *want* the answer to be. LeBron is a player, not a manager or coach. Nobody owes LeBron justification.
Obviously things are probably sour between them, but I'm not sure what they *want* the answer to be. LeBron is a player, not a manager or coach. Nobody owes LeBron justification.
Ok I admit it. I'm Kevin Durant.
LuckyNumber7
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Knew it.
LeBron is the exact kind of passive aggressivene cunt to actually have his current team all come to workout in the city of the team he'll be signing with next summer.
That's next level shit.
That's next level shit.
BoMac
Self-righteous bullshitter
Looks like Carmelo is off to OKC.
James Dolan uninvited him
Bye, Melo!
And in other news, I wish I could go back to all the old NBA threads and delete every single negative word I have posted about Lebron. I had come around to love him as a player over the last few years, but the dude is an incredible individual too.
And in other news, I wish I could go back to all the old NBA threads and delete every single negative word I have posted about Lebron. I had come around to love him as a player over the last few years, but the dude is an incredible individual too.
MrPryck2U
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I can't even say anything negative about how he's handled this idiocy. That'll tell you something.
LuckyNumber7
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Which idiocy, Trump or Kyrie?
Trump.
He's handled Kyrie as expected
He's handled Kyrie as expected
cobl04
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