National Hockey League 2013-14 season - Page 49 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Lemonade Stand > Put 'Em Under Pressure
Click Here to Login
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-31-2014, 11:42 AM   #721
Self-righteous bullshitter
 
BoMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Soviet Canuckistan — Socialist paradise
Posts: 16,665
Local Time: 05:03 AM
Stand down. Subban took a call in the middle of talking to reporters at an event, and people assumed it was from his agent or the Canadiens. He comes back 25 minutes later and says it was his mom calling....he left the BBQ grill on.
__________________

__________________

BoMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 05:34 AM   #722
Self-righteous bullshitter
 
BoMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Soviet Canuckistan — Socialist paradise
Posts: 16,665
Local Time: 05:03 AM
There's three and a half hours to go before the arbitration hearing. This thing is going down to the wire. Reports from reputable sources indicate Montreal made a "significant" offer, a max-length eight year deal, and both sides are just ironing out the final details.

I'm starting to get anxious.
__________________

__________________

BoMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 08:11 AM   #723
Self-righteous bullshitter
 
BoMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Soviet Canuckistan — Socialist paradise
Posts: 16,665
Local Time: 05:03 AM
50 minutes to go. Oh God...
__________________

BoMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 08:37 AM   #724
Acrobat
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 493
Local Time: 05:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bomac View Post
sounds like a deal is imminent. I estimate an announcement within the hour.

lol!!!!..
__________________
LUNEDEMINUIT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 08:58 AM   #725
Self-righteous bullshitter
 
BoMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Soviet Canuckistan — Socialist paradise
Posts: 16,665
Local Time: 05:03 AM
You apparently didn't read my subsequent post.
__________________

BoMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 09:04 AM   #726
Acrobat
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 493
Local Time: 05:03 AM
Well,looks like that bridge contract wasn't enough.

Bergevin and Therrien need to see more.

...........And i agree.
__________________
LUNEDEMINUIT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 10:40 AM   #727
Self-righteous bullshitter
 
BoMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Soviet Canuckistan — Socialist paradise
Posts: 16,665
Local Time: 05:03 AM
I'm starting to feel the same sort of existential dread as Pfan.
__________________

BoMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 11:37 AM   #728
ONE
love, blood, life
 
LuckyNumber7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Leicester, UK
Posts: 12,375
Local Time: 04:03 AM
Because PK Subban is hitting arbitration? I don't get it... what's the big deal?

He's an arbitration eligible player. They took him to arbitration.

And when he's no longer an arbitration eligible player? They'll extend him to some fat contract.
__________________
LuckyNumber7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 11:40 AM   #729
ONE
love, blood, life
 
LuckyNumber7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Leicester, UK
Posts: 12,375
Local Time: 04:03 AM
Also, you should feel the same sort of existential dread... your team made the ECF.

Do you know how terribly satisfying losing in the first round was... two years ago? We basically won the Stanley Cup!
__________________
LuckyNumber7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 01:35 PM   #730
Self-righteous bullshitter
 
BoMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Soviet Canuckistan — Socialist paradise
Posts: 16,665
Local Time: 05:03 AM
Players like Doughty and Pietrangelo signed their big contracts immediately after their rookie deals. That wasn't the case with Subban.

He was asked to sign a so-called bridge deal, under the assumption that if he proves himself he will get his big payday. So he signs a 2-year deal at a major discount.

And what has he done since? Won a Norris trophy (albeit in a shortened season, but somebody had to win it), selected to the Olympic team and won a gold medal while being a model teammate in accepting a reduced role, and is generally regarded as one of the most dynamic defencemen in the NHL.

He is charismatic, well-spoken, and a burgeoning superstar. Probably the biggest (non-goalie) star that Montreal has had since Guy Lafleur. A generational talent.

So I don't get what Montreal is doing. What more do they need to see? There are 29 other teams that would pick him up in a heartbeat. And the rhetoric coming out of today's meeting is not very encouraging.
__________________

BoMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 02:13 PM   #731
ONE
love, blood, life
 
LuckyNumber7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Leicester, UK
Posts: 12,375
Local Time: 04:03 AM
A bridge deal is NOT a 'major discount.'

And bridge deals happen ALL the time. You're trying to make this look a lot worse than it is. And please, don't call him a model teammate. That has no truth and certainly means nothing in terms of salary.

You can't compare him to Doughty and you can't compare him to Pietrangelo. Doughty won a Stanley Cup. Doughty was drafted 2nd overall (yes that absolutely matters when it comes to getting paid). Pietrangelo was drafted 4th overall. Pietrangelo comes from a team where they've got a much higher responsibility to lock up their players.


It's also laughable to call PK Subban generational talent. Pass the pipe, man. Sidney Crosby is generational talent. Alexander Ovechkin is generational talent. Evgeni Malkin is generational talent. Maybe Stamkos? Nobody else in this league is generational talent, end of story. Lidstrom was generational talent. Hull. Gretzky. Messier. Do not call PK Subban generational talent.
__________________
LuckyNumber7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 02:33 PM   #732
Self-righteous bullshitter
 
BoMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Soviet Canuckistan — Socialist paradise
Posts: 16,665
Local Time: 05:03 AM
Generational specific to the Habs, as in he's their biggest talent (not named Roy) in 30 years.

And at $2.75 million per, the bridge deal was most definitely a discount, especially when you consider Montreal gave an injured Emelin $4 million per year on his second deal.
__________________

BoMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 04:11 PM   #733
ONE
love, blood, life
 
LuckyNumber7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Leicester, UK
Posts: 12,375
Local Time: 04:03 AM
National Hockey League 2013-14 season

That's a franchise player, not generational talent.

Yes, players are had for cheap when they are restricted. Often that's the case. The same thing happened with Jay Bouwmeester in Florida (but that wasn't because Florida wouldn't offer him long term, that's because he didn't want to be in Florida).

You don't see restricted players making money. It just doesn't happen. Why do you think guys like Pietrangelo are at 6.5 AAV? It's low not because of some "discount"for signing long term. It's low because the average value takes into account those restricted years (7 years pro or under 27, whichever comes first).

No player, ever, gets money for being restricted.
__________________
LuckyNumber7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2014, 07:49 AM   #734
Acrobat
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 493
Local Time: 05:03 AM
P.K. can cry all the crocodile tears of his body about all the bad things the habs lawyers throw at him during the hearing,but never..NEVER forget that it was him that asked to use the route of arbitration,not Marc Bergevin.I assume that Don Meehan explain to him what were the implication of taking that road and what he would have to hear during 90 minute.

Chris Johnston nail this perfectly,the bad guy in all of this isn't Bergevin.

Subban negotiating with larger plan at work - Sportsnet.ca
__________________
LUNEDEMINUIT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2014, 10:08 AM   #735
Blue Crack Addict
 
PhilsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Standing on the shore, facing east.
Posts: 18,886
Local Time: 04:03 AM
Yeah! No one ever went to arbitration before that asshole PK Subban!
__________________

__________________
PhilsFan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com