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Old 03-11-2011, 11:21 AM   #346
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Do you agree that it was essentially an interference check that ended up with a freak outcome?

If that's the case, and you argue that this check deserves a suspension, then so does an incident where a guy trips/hooks an opponent who subsequently hits his head on the ice. Suspending a guy based on the outcome and not on the specific foul itself leads to huge problems.
Yes and no.

There are so many moving parts to this story, I don't know where to begin. All I can say is that I saw the video many times, and each time I come to the same conclusion - Chara deserved at least 3-5 games.

Do I think Chara is a dirty player? No. I've always admired and respected him. Do I think, as some honey-loving bear who cannot get past his/her own team bias/hatred for another team, that because he has never been suspended before that he has never transgressed in the past? Definitely not.

Do I think there was malicious intent? No. Do I think Chara knew what he was doing? Yes and no. As a player I think they are all aware of the lay of the land and know exactly where everything is - even Pacioretty - although from his perspective there is some inherent trust that he won't be plowed into the stanchion as he's skating by a player. And in my view, Chara definitely guided Pacioretty with his elbow and even towards the end sort of gave him a shove. The man is 6'9" and has a reputation for being a fitness freak. He's strong and powerful and even a slight shove could have devastating circumstances.

In that light, I think he was reckless and has to be held accountable. The fact that it was interference - and was deemed serious enough that he was handed a minor, major and game misconduct penalty - we can all agree on and it never should have happened. The result was horrible. But he has to respond to his actions, and by escaping any sort of sanction, it has rendered the league even more of a farce than it already is.

This year is the absolute worst in terms of players' safety and, for me, this is the end. Something has to be done.
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Old 03-11-2011, 11:28 AM   #347
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^ Well said!

Kramwest, I have my Habs gear ready, and I can't wait to watch them kick the Wild's ass in person on the 20th!
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Old 03-11-2011, 11:37 AM   #348
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^ Well said!

Kramwest, I have my Habs gear ready, and I can't wait to watch them kick the Wild's ass in person on the 20th!
The Wild will one that one because by then they will be mathematically out of the playoffs.
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First drink in Winnipeg?
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I just watched that Chara hit for the first time.
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Do you agree that it was essentially an interference check that ended up with a freak outcome?
No. He knew exactly where he was checking him into. He should be suspended.
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Old 03-11-2011, 04:31 PM   #353
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It was a careless hit that shouldn't be paired with intention to injure but nonetheless Chara should be held accountable for what happened considering he was no longer playing the puck.
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There's barely a line between intending to injure and knowing you're going to injure and being indifferent about it. All I know is that video showed me he knew exactly what he was doing.
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He was finishing a check. That always goes down that way. It was the wrong place at the wrong time.

You've got no idea how close you are to that specific bench end on the ice when you're looking at the player as opposed to where you're going.

Players are always finishing checks late and usually they let it go, especially in that driving along the boards fashion.
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I just watched that Chara hit for the first time.

No. He knew exactly where he was checking him into. He should be suspended.
I think the game moves way too fast for Chara to know where he was checking him into. Maybe a one game suspension, just to show that the NHL is watching. But anything more is ridiculous.

And I'm a Wild guy, not a Bruins guy.
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There's barely a line between intending to injure and knowing you're going to injure and being indifferent about it. All I know is that video showed me he knew exactly what he was doing.
So you think he purposely tried to drive him into that support beam?

I most definitely do not agree.
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No, I think he was going to check him, saw the support beam, and didn't care. It's not like he set out saying, "I'm going to check him into a support beam," but it didn't deter him in the least.
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So, I'm going to my first hockey game tonight. But it's am AHL game. Go Wolves?
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No, I think he was going to check him, saw the support beam, and didn't care. It's not like he set out saying, "I'm going to check him into a support beam," but it didn't deter him in the least.
If the speed of the game is that slow, why didn't Pacioretty see the support beam and adjust his path?
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