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Old 12-18-2012, 07:18 PM   #496
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I fucking hope not in Seattle.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:19 PM   #497
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Just read some rumors that the Dodgers are shopping Ethier with an eye towards signing Bourn.
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What kind of world do we live in where a baseball fan doesn't want Michael Bourn on their team?
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:23 PM   #499
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LL Piss, this is the sort of stuff I used to doodle in High School. And College. And when I first started working at a desk. And last week in a big meeting. I wrote down projected lineups vs. LHP and RHP based on current roster, and a few based on potential FA acquisitions.
I do the same thing but with Excel spreadsheets. I do it for all sports. I already have a 2013 depth chart for Penn State based on the recruits they have been getting.

I should really finish this final exam paper before I keep going on this.
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What kind of world do we live in where a baseball fan doesn't want Michael Bourn on their team?
The one where Scott Boras exists.
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Meh.

Dude's a damn good player. The Mariners suck, and would be a better team with him.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:35 PM   #502
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What kind of world do we live in where a baseball fan doesn't want Michael Bourn on their team?
The Mariners are rebuilding. Michael Bourn costs draft picks. The way the new CBA works, losing a top draft pick is much, much more detrimental to the entire draft class for that team than it has been in the past thanks to the new rules regarding slot.

Then there's the actual player. Michael Bourn's primary assets are speed and defense. The Mariners already have one of the better defenses in baseball. And the last time the Mariners gave up a top draft pick to get a slap-hitting speedster whose value was also tied to good defense, it was Chone Figgins. And yeah, he made the team so much better with his shitty play.
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I really want the Phillies to sign Cody Ross. Forgive me, but I want to break down a projected roster if they get Ross. I will spoiler it for those who don't care, but I love this kind of shit:

 
1. Ben Revere - CF
2. Jimmy Rollins - SS
3. Chase Utley - 2B
4. Ryan Howard - 1B
5. Cody Ross - RF
6. Dom Brown - LF
7. Carlos Ruiz - C [After Suspension]
8. Michael Young - 3B

Bench: Eric Kratz, Freddy Galvis, Kevin Frandsen, Darin Ruf, Ender Inciarte

Rotation: Cole Hamels, Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Kyle Kendrick, John Lannan
Bullpen: Tyler Cloyd, Phillipe Aumont, Justin De Fratus, Antonio Bastardo, Jeremy Horst, Mike Adams, Jonathan Papelbon

You start the season with Kratz at catcher and Sebastian Valle on the bench till Ruiz gets back from suspension. It's 25 games and Kratz can hit. Shouldn't be a huge loss and prevents Ruiz from breaking down.

Obviously, there are several guesses here. The bullpen is a mystery beyond Papelbon and Adams, though the addition of Adams alone makes this bullpen way better than it was last year. I like the idea of Cloyd as a long man as opposed to a starter, and Aumont and De Fratus have way more talent than Joe Savery or Michael Schwimmer ever showed last year. That leaves two spots for lefties. Bastardo will have to lose the job to lose his spot, and Horst looked better to me than Valdes did.

The bench is also interesting. Kratz will be a lock. Galvis will too since he can play shortstop and second. And Inciarte has to stay because he is Rule Five. That leaves two spots and four guys: Kevin Frandsen (3B), Darin Ruf (1B/LF), Laynce Nix (OF) and John Mayberry (OF). Frandsen probably has the best shot because of how he played down the stretch and the questions about Young at this age, but his numbers were inflated by luck: a very high BABIP. He doesn't walk much, either. Still, it feels like his job to lose. That leaves three guys for one spot. Nix is almost definitely the odd man out. He's done nothing. Ruf is the younger guy with the greater potential, but I could see them sending him back down to the minors to continue developing if they feel that Mayberry can be the last man off the bench and spell Brown from time to time.

Of course, they have to sign Ross for this to happen, so who knows.
Good stuff. All makes good sense!
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I guess we just disagree on philosophy there. I'll always take a proven talent over a crapshoot draft pick.

And, Michael Bourn =/= Chone Figgins.

The way you wrote that, it makes it seem like just because Chone burned you, you're going to forever dismiss the notion of signing that specific type of ballplayer. To me, that is just silly.

Bourn is a baller.
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Good stuff. All makes good sense!
Sportswise, I regret becoming so Philly-centric in how studied I am. I wish I had remotely as good a knowledge of other teams and players as I do about those who have gone through my teams. Obviously every fan knows his/her team best, but I really want to make a concerted effort to be more well-rounded when talking about these things.

I think the first step, once I am on my own, will be putting out money for those packages where you can watch other games than the local ones. Your MLB.TV's, your Sunday Ticket's. I love it when I can have a good, in-depth discussion of Philly or Penn State sports with someone. Being able to do the same with fans of other teams would be great.
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I guess we just disagree on philosophy there. I'll always take a proven talent over a crapshoot draft pick.

And, Michael Bourn =/= Chone Figgins.

The way you wrote that, it makes it seem like just because Chone burned you, you're going to forever dismiss the notion of signing that specific type of ballplayer. To me, that is just silly.

Bourn is a baller.
That's not it at all. If he didn't cost the punting of the 2013 draft or if the Mariners were not rebuilding, I'd be happy to have him on the team. As a complimentary player. At this point though, on a young and rebuilding team that needs to continue to develop and have its high-minors talent graduate and develop (while infusing the system with young talent in the upcoming draft), he doesn't make a whole lot of sense at the money Boras wants.

I'd also be opposed to a Nick Swisher signing (albeit less so as he's a much better hitter than Bourn) for the same reasons I mentioned in the previous paragraph. Neither really makes sense on a rebuilding team. Unless the team was going to go hog wild (in which case I'd have rather they signed Anibal Sanchez and Zack Greinke and traded their plethora of minor league pitching for hitting, as neither Sanchez nor Greinke would cost a draft pick). But that ship has sailed.
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Sportswise, I regret becoming so Philly-centric in how studied I am. I wish I had remotely as good a knowledge of other teams and players as I do about those who have gone through my teams. Obviously every fan knows his/her team best, but I really want to make a concerted effort to be more well-rounded when talking about these things.

I think the first step, once I am on my own, will be putting out money for those packages where you can watch other games than the local ones. Your MLB.TV's, your Sunday Ticket's. I love it when I can have a good, in-depth discussion of Philly or Penn State sports with someone. Being able to do the same with fans of other teams would be great.
sbnation is really good for that. Really wonderful network of blogs.
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sbnation is really good for that. Really wonderful network of blogs.
I actually started commenting on Penn State's SBNation blog this year. I also occasionally head over to the Philadelphia ones. But I began breaking out recently into more national ones. I follow the college football one Every Day Should Be Saturday, which is humorous but still insightful. Going to try to follow more this spring, when my coursework here will be much lighter.
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For other sports, I mostly rely on major web sites/newspapers, but for baseball I read a shit ton of different blogs.
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