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Old 11-14-2012, 12:07 PM   #211
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Man, the more I look at this deal the more I realize the Marlins were just had. They couldn't even get Arrencibia if no d'Arnaud? They couldn't get the best pitching prospect in the Blue Jays system?
I am convinced Alex Anthopolous is part warlock...
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:10 PM   #212
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I am convinced Alex Anthopolous is part warlock...
Getting rid of the Vernon Wells contract is also proof of this.

It pains me that a Montrealer is helping turn around a Toronto franchise.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:32 PM   #213
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It pains me that a Montrealer is helping turn around a Toronto franchise.
And Jeffrey Loria is destroying another one
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:47 PM   #214
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And Jeffrey Loria is destroying another one
Not from his point of view:

Loria explains deal. "We have to get better ... We have to take a new course.'' - CBSSports.com
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Keith Olbermann makes the case for Montreal:

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Old 11-14-2012, 01:08 PM   #216
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Interesting that he's so certain the Rays are also doomed, but he's likely right.

I'd love to see Indy get a baseball team, but I suspect that allegiances would be too torn between the cubs/sox/cardinals /indians/reds for it to survive.
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:50 PM   #217
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In the end, MLB is a cartel. The owners are happy they are getting their catch. It's not like anyone has an incentive to change anything.

There's Shrewd, There's Genius, Then There's Marlins Owner Jeffrey Loria - The Triangle Blog - Grantland

When someone complains about teams with large payrolls (and the need for revenue sharing), think about this.
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:14 PM   #218
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Giancarlo Stanton won't get traded. At least not while he's making less than a million per WAR.

Man, the more I look at this deal the more I realize the Marlins were just had. They couldn't even get Arrencibia if no d'Arnaud? They couldn't get the best pitching prospect in the Blue Jays system?
It's not about being traded. He's on contract year. Good luck locking him up now...
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:23 PM   #219
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I wish the fucker would just sell the team.

Say what you want about Miami and being able to support a team and blah blah blah but I guarantee you if this didn't happen and they stuck to the one or two year restructuring of the roster this team would continue to have a modest/mediocre showing.

Next year? They're fucked. Bring someone in who isn't a total asshat. I want to trade Loria. And that little shithead David Samson.
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I gotta say, I don't understand how something like this happens.

How do you screw up winning two world series that close together?

There's absolutely no reason why that franchise should be struggling, and for the life of me, I can't understand the decisions they have made over the last decade or so.

But that's just me.
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:03 PM   #221
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I gotta say, I don't understand how something like this happens.

How do you screw up winning two world series that close together?

There's absolutely no reason why that franchise should be struggling, and for the life of me, I can't understand the decisions they have made over the last decade or so.

But that's just me.
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:52 PM   #222
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Speculation has it they're trying to flip Escobar as well.

Please do, I don't want that scumbag in Miami.

Word also has it they're shopping Ricky Nolasco. That would please me.

They might as well dump Morrison and Stanton for high prices now while they still can. Those guys won't want to be here when their contracts are up, and chances are their obligations and contracts with this team will be fulfilled right around the time when any of this horrible unbalanced trading starts to 'pay off'.
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...who will play?
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Eliminate one of the farm teams and move everyone up one level!

Seriously though. The Marlins currently have $0 committed to the 2014 payroll!
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If they trade those guys you just listed, their most well-known player this season will be Greg Dobbs.
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