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Old 11-19-2008, 01:45 PM   #31
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You should have just posted a link that said "Red Sox acquire Ramirez"...that would have raised a few eyebrows.

Kind of sad to see Coco go, he was very good this season. Never lived up to the hype of what people expected when the Sox traded for him, but performed well this year and was a great defensive outfielder, noodle arm notwithstanding.
Agreed, but thanks to the great second half of this past season, his value went up big time from last offseason to this one. No way this trade happens last year, or even in June.
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Poor CoCo got banished to KC.
Looks like the Hot Stove is really starting to heat up.

The M's got themselves the first Asian-American Manager when they hired Don W-something for the job. Sorry, I forgot his last name.

Pedroia AL MVP-
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Considering the Angels have already said that they won't resign him, you're not exactly going out on a limb there.
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Pedroia AL MVP-
You had someone else in mind?
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Not when the Tigers underperformed so dramatically this year. He certainly didn't seem to help them that much. Doesn't make him much of an MVP candidate.
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Aww, you could look at it also as Cabrera having performed well despite the Tigers not being so good. Plenty of guys have been MVPs when their teams weren't good. His stats overall were better than Pedroia's. I've got no problem with Pedroia being the MVP, but I just wasn't blown away by him.
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Performing well despite your team is not what the award is for. It's about value.

Same reason why I disagree with Ryan Howard getting the MVP a couple of years ago (the tables have turned, haven't they? Two years ago, Howard won over World Series champ Pujols; now, Pujols wins over World Series champ Howard). I think you have to be on a team that at least makes the playoffs to be MVP.
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Just found out about Kerry Wood.

And so the last link to the 90's Cubs is gone.

Oh well.

Can't feel too bad for him when Banks, Buckner, Sandberg, Sosa and others didn't get a ring either.
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did you really think cabrera was the mvp?

really?
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Buckner didn't get a ring either.
He had a hell of a shot though

I think it's pretty cool that the top 4 MVP were from 2 teams (Pedroia, Morneau, Mauer, Youkilis), first time since '80. What's always fun with MVP voting is looking at the complete voting, where you get to see interesting things like Evan Grant leaving Pedroia off his ballot altogether, or guys like Raul Ibanez, Mike Mussina, and Jason Bartlett(!) getting votes.
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CQ had that shit locked up if he didn't take himself out with the wrist injury. It wouldn't have been close. But that's yesterday's paper. Is it March yet?
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. Plenty of guys have been MVPs when their teams weren't good.
No, just Arod.
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What's always fun with MVP voting is looking at the complete voting, where you get to see interesting things like Evan Grant leaving Pedroia off his ballot altogether, or guys like Raul Ibanez, Mike Mussina, and Jason Bartlett(!) getting votes.
What, you don't think that a guy who provides average defense and below-average offense at shortstop deserves a MVP vote?
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did you really think cabrera was the mvp?

really?
Not really, but his overall stats were better than Pedroia's. You can look it up.

And Hewson was right about A-Rod. The Rangers sucked, but he was an MVP anyway when he was with them. The two other times A-Rod won was when he was with the Yankees and they won over 90 games.
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