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Old 04-23-2007, 03:57 PM   #106
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i read somewhere that it should be not a "duel" in the pool, but a ... what would be the word for three entities doing battle ... USA vs. Australia vs. Michael Phelps.

i absolutely cannot wait for Beijing.

had i all the money in the world, i'd fly over there for his events in a heartbeat.

sadly impossible, but London in 2012 ...
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:00 PM   #107
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and just because i can.






and Michael Klim is pretty hot too:

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Old 04-23-2007, 04:10 PM   #108
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sorry, i can't not post this one:







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Old 04-23-2007, 04:10 PM   #109
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Excellent fixing of that post Irvine - I was panicked for a minute.

Too bad SF/london gathering is before August - we could have had a swimming viewing event as part of the agenda...maybe if you show we can do a pre olympic something to wish him luck




ETA: that last one needs fixing too
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Old 04-23-2007, 04:14 PM   #110
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Too bad SF/london gathering is before August - we could have had a swimming viewing event as part of the agenda...maybe if you show we can do a pre olympic something to wish him luck


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Old 04-23-2007, 04:52 PM   #111
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I think this thread could use a picture of Amanda Beard, who is a half way decent swimmer too.

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^ fair enough.
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i read somewhere that it should be not a "duel" in the pool, but a ... what would be the word for three entities doing battle ... USA vs. Australia vs. Michael Phelps.

i absolutely cannot wait for Beijing.

had i all the money in the world, i'd fly over there for his events in a heartbeat.

sadly impossible, but London in 2012 ...
Who ever is racing against Michael Phelps is pretty much swimming for second place right now.

To be in Beijing and watch him swim would be so great. If the championships were any indication what the Olympics are going to be like for him, it's going to be history in the making. That is IF Ian Crocker doesn't make a mistake.
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:13 AM   #114
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that said, Phelps and Crocker have had an interesting history. by all accounts, they get along just fine, but in Athens Crocker led off the 4x100 free relay in a very slow time, more than a second slower than his best, and was in 7th or 8th place. the US managed to dig themselves out of the basement and get a bronze, but Crocker's slow relay leg in Athens ended Phelps's quest for 7 or 8 gold in Athens (and Phelps, at that time, wasn't going to beat Ian Thorpe in the 200 free anyway).

and now, we have a similar situation. due to a Crocker fuck up -- intentional or not, and i think not -- Phelps stays a medal away from genuine immortality.
And the history continues between Phelps and Crocker:

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - Ian Crocker's chance to beat Michael Phelps was gone in a flash.
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The anticipated renewal of their rivalry in the 100 butterfly Thursday was upstaged by an inadvertent strobe light that went off just before the start, causing Crocker to flinch and eventually be disqualified.

Fans still got to see the duel play out in the pool, and Phelps pulled away from Crocker in the final 25 metres to win in 51.39 seconds and break his own long-course record at the national championships. Crocker, whose time was quickly removed from the scoreboard and replaced by the dreaded disqualification symbol, said he swam a 51.6.

"It's one of those things and I guess it's a learning experience for myself, and, hopefully for U.S. swimming and people like that, too," Crocker said. "I've never had that to happen to myself and I've never known it to happen to anyone else."

Jamie Fabos, a spokeswoman for USA Swimming, said officials were trying to determine whose flash went off. If they do, the offending news organization's strobe will be revoked for the rest of the meet, Fabos said.

Crocker knew almost immediately the race was over before it actually started.

When fans in Indianapolis gasped in unison, Crocker figured that if the crowd had seen it, the officials surely had, too. They did.

Crocker's coach also told him the flinch made him the last swimmer off the starting blocks, slowing the world-record holder.

Both Phelps and Crocker acknowledged there is usually a light that flashes, signalling the start of the race. To avoid getting confused, Phelps keeps his head down.

"I don't go by the flash, I go by the sound," Phelps said. "You could see it very clearly on the replay that the strobe went off."

Crocker usually keeps his head down, too, since he's been instructed to the look at the wall. This time, however, the flash apparently reflected off the water, distracting Crocker.

"I'm always attuned to react toward the flash," he said. "That's something that's usually monitored very closely at the larger meets."

But it didn't bother Phelps at all.

The two-time Olympian, who set three personal world records and two more in relays at the world championships this spring, called it his best closing 25 metres ever in the 100 fly.

Phelps showed the swimming world something else Thursday: He's tuning up for next year's Olympics.

The victory in the 100 fly came 32 minutes after he finished third in the 400 freestyle.

Peter Vanderkaay, one of Phelps' teammates with Club Wolverine, pulled away in the final 100 metres, winning in 3:45.55 - his personal best. Larsen Jensen was second in 3:47.08, and the hard-charging Phelps, was next at 3:47.13.

Phelps' coach, Bob Bowman, said he was really using the event to learn how to conserve energy for next year's Olympics when he's expected to challenge Mark Spitz's record of seven gold medals. Phelps pulled out of the 800 free relay, the last event of the night.

"That's why we do this, and that's what he did so well in Melbourne," Bowman said. "He's getting better and better at it."

Perhaps that explained Vanderkaay's low-key response to winning.

"I figured it would take a personal best or something close to that to beat Michael," Vanderkaay said. "He's the best swimmer in the world, but he didn't train for this event like I did, so I'm sure he's happy with it."

The Phelps-Crocker matchup was supposed to be the showcase event at this meet because it's one of the few in which Phelps has consistently been challenged.

Crocker beat Phelps in world-record time at the 2003 world championships. At the 2004 Olympics, Phelps outtouched Crocker at the finish to take home the gold.

The next year, at the world championships, Crocker again beat Phelps in world-record time (50.40), only to have Phelps outtouch him again at this year's world championships. Crocker said they may not face each other again until spring nationals.

But Bowman liked the results Thursday.

"I think maybe he's a little better than I thought he might be here," Bowman said.
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another crime: Brett Favre voted Sports Illustrated's Sportsman of the Year. but since SI is really only interested in selling magazines, i suppose it makes sense to put an NFLer on the cover as the season starts to come to a close.

a dissenting opinion:

[q]My Sportsman: Michael Phelps
Phelps redefined dominance at World Championships

By Brian Cazeneuve

Sports Illustrated will announce its choice for Sportsman of the Year on Dec. 3. Here's one of the nominations for that honor by an SI writer. For more essays, click here.

It takes a truly remarkable swimmer to leave an audience staring in rapt awe at a race in the pool, with its barely distinguishable limbs and lanes as a guide for context. But at the world championships in Melbourne, Australia, last March, Michael Phelps had the Aussie crowds staring at an inanimate gadget all week, even as their own swimmers, many who are national idols, toiled beside him.

In swimming parlance, Phelps spent the entire week "beating the line," the superimposed red string that speeds across arena scoreboard screens during races at world-record pace. In fashioning the greatest single-meet performance in the history of the sport, Phelps won seven gold medals and broke five world records. He broke some by such absurd margins that Australian swimmer Grant Hackett noted, "I'm not one for hyperbole, but he is just superhuman."

In Melbourne, Phelps lowered his own world records in the 200-meter butterfly by 1.62 seconds to 1:52.09, in the 200 individual medley by .86 of a second (1:54.98) and in the 400 IM by 2.02 seconds (4:06.22). He swam 1.34 seconds faster than his personal best to take .20 off Ian Thorpe's world-best in the 200 free.

It was a stunning statement from Phelps, who had appeared mortal in the 30 months since winning six gold medals at the Athens Olympics. Two months after those Games, Phelps suffered the first mark on his reputation when he was ticketed for DUI near his Baltimore home. At his next major international meet, the 2005 world championships in Montreal, Phelps won five gold medals, yet it seemed he had lost his place of preeminence.

So Phelps rededicated himself. He gave himself a moratorium on dating and religiously conked out at 10 p.m. each night. He added weight training to his regimen, a difficult addition since swimmers need buoyancy rather than bulk and have unique needs in the gym. A few years earlier, Phelps and coach Bob Bowman had hired a trainer who knew more about building football players and weightlifters, and the workouts became so counter-productive they gave up and greatly reduced Phelps' time in the gym. This year Phelps and Bowman found a trainer and program that was swimmer-friendly.

What's more, Phelps and Bowman, who have often been at each other's throats since Phelps' early teenage days, were arguing less and working together more smartly. "Michael has matured more than I ever expected," Bowman said in Melbourne. Now even swimmers who are older and more experienced pick Phelps' brain and monitor his laps for inspiration.

Granted other athletes in other sports may stand far above their peers, but try to name one in any sport who leaves you scrambling for context as Phelps does; his peers in other sports simply don't provide it. LeBron James is not yet Michael Jordan. Sidney Crosby is not yet Wayne Gretzky. As an athlete who stands alone in his sport, Phelps stands alone across all sports. That distinction makes him Sportsman-worthy for me.

"If I want to set a standard and change the sport of swimming, I know I can't go away from the things I need to do that," says Phelps. "There will be time in my life to do other things, but for now, I want to do best times in every race. If I don't at least push myself to do that, I won't be satisfied with the results."

And that is where Phelps has drawn his most important line.[/q]
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^ just for you ...

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Old 12-05-2007, 11:22 AM   #118
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^ that literally sucked up the last 10 minutes. It takes a while to work your eyes down that long torso

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