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Old 08-10-2012, 02:47 PM   #721
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mens 4 x 100m relay; let's just hand it over to jamaica now yeah? that heat was nuts!
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:02 PM   #722
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USA & Canada might have a Toronto and Buffalo joint bid for 2024. Might actually be smart, splitting the cost. My money would be on the 2024 games going to Africa or a USA/CAN joint bid, which would both be new ground, which we know the IOC loves.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:12 PM   #723
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i'm thinking it's going to be Istanbul in 2020. it's up against Madrid and Tokyo (admittedly stiff competition).
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:14 PM   #724
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the only place it can go in Africa is South Africa



Canada had a hard time in 1976

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Old 08-10-2012, 04:16 PM   #725
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I think Istanbul will get 2020. Madrid is in financially strapped Spain, and Tokyo had the Olympics in the 60s. Plus, its an opportunity for the Olympics to be in a Muslim county, albeit a more relaxed one. However, I wonder how they'll deal with the female athletes, particularly the beach volleyball players.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:26 PM   #726
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I think Istanbul is almost guaranteed. No way does Tokyo get it after the winter games in South Korea and that soon after Beijing. Madrid is from a country that might need 3 bailouts before now and then so unless the Germans want to pay for those Olympics, don't see it happening.

God forbid a joint Toronto/Buffalo bid in 2024. As it is you can't get anywhere with the traffic in Toronto and there is no foresight at all when it comes to urban planning. I won't even comment on Buffalo, which is legit one of the ugliest "cities" I have ever had the misfortune of seeing.
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However, I wonder how they'll deal with the female athletes, particularly the beach volleyball players.
Given that Turkey is one of the prime beach vacation spots in that part of the world, I don't think it's going to be much of an issue.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:30 PM   #728
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Given that Turkey is one of the prime beach vacation spots in that part of the world, I don't think it's going to be much of an issue.
Oh, I didn't know about that.

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Yeah, it's quite beautiful, used to be cheap too...not so sure it is anymore, though.
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Old 08-10-2012, 04:39 PM   #730
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The Olympics would be so much better if rhythmic gymnastics, sychronised swimming, and dressage were just cut from the programme.
Frankly I'd cut everything that isn't track and field and get rid of all team sports including relays.

I might let boxing stay on the basis that it's a competitive amateur discipline with a long historic record that was included in the original Olympics (and I'm not just saying that because Ireland tends to be competitive in boxing, I'd definitely cut out show-jumping, another discipline in which we're somewhat competitive.)
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we need to expand and reflect the times we live in

gaming should be added next, it takes real endurance and skill to prevail at that


and just like the original games were a way of nation states to come together and compete in friendly war games,

wars these days are being fought with technology like gaming,
not with bows, spears (javelins) and hand to hand combat.
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Let's ponder the Dutch women hockey team instead. True champions!
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Old 08-10-2012, 05:49 PM   #733
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Gold to New Zealand in the women's 470 class sailing!

That's four golds - apart from when we scored eight in 1984, we've never passed three golds before. So this is our most successful non-boycotted Olympics ever!
It looks as though Ireland will finish with our best medals tally since 1956, and possibly best ever. Which sounds great except when we discover that our total medals tally of 5 isn't so hot when compared to New Zealand's 12 medals - plus there was some element of home advantage for us, I assume. In the eight Olympic games since 1984, New Zealand have averaged almost 9 medals per games, compared to an average of just 2 for Ireland.

I think NZ is the best model for Ireland if seeking to building on our 2012 tally and set those 5 medals as the new minimum threshold benchmark, with a target of, say, 12 - we have very similar population, similar stage of economic development, are island nations somewhat in the shadow of larger (and, obnoxious and arrogant to go with it ) neighbouring island nations, culturally relatively similar, and minority sports face huge challenges in competing with massively popular field team codes - rugby for you, GAA games + soccer, and rugby in recent years also, for us.
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Let's ponder the Dutch women hockey team instead. True champions!

[PHOTOS] The Hottest Women of the Netherlands Olympic Field Hockey Team



forget volleyball
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I might let boxing stay on the basis that it's a competitive amateur discipline with a long historic record that was included in the original Olympics
Boxing, even on the olympic level, is the most corrupt shit in town. I'd cut that before anything else on that basis alone
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