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Old 07-27-2009, 07:50 AM   #286
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off-field blemishes - do you think it diminshes on-field achievements? should it? is that fair?
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Old 07-27-2009, 07:59 AM   #287
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I suppose it could, it would depend on the size and the frequency of the off field blemishes. I doubt that Bradman had anything of the sort, same goes for Pele as far as I know. But using this rule would exclude Diego Maradona.
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Old 07-27-2009, 08:02 AM   #288
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The only think I know about Maradona is the hand of god stuff. I bought it up because i thought of wayne carey and ablett sr.... both champion footballers who don't get their due credit because of unrrelated off-field crap.

most of the stuff carey is alleged to have done would come under a normal saturday for some blokes
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As far as I know Maradona had taken drugs (which had been publicised) before so that's why I questioned his eligibility for this 'award'.

It really is a pity that a sportsmen's off field controversy overshadows their playing career.
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It's always disgusted me how Ablett and Carey's status as a legend of the AFL has been brought into question by off-field misdemeanors. Let's just say it was PoL PoT who had a batting average of 99.94, the fact that he committed all his evil atrocities is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is is that he produced sheer magic on the cricket pitch. He is a legend of the sport, and that's all that should matter when classifying someone as a legend of their sport.
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it was PoL PoT who had a batting average of 99.94, the fact that he committed all his evil atrocities is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is is that he produced sheer magic on the cricket pitch. He is a legend of the sport, and that's all that should matter when classifying someone as a legend of their sport.
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It's always disgusted me how Ablett and Carey's status as a legend of the AFL has been brought into question by off-field misdemeanors. Let's just say it was PoL PoT who had a batting average of 99.94, the fact that he committed all his evil atrocities is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is is that he produced sheer magic on the cricket pitch. He is a legend of the sport, and that's all that should matter when classifying someone as a legend of their sport.
If anything the fact that he could keep a 99.94 avg WHILE commiting mass atrocities and other crimes against humanity should prove just how awesome he is. All that killing and conspiring would weigh on a lesser man.
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Old 07-28-2009, 12:32 AM   #294
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hate to bring it up. again. but one more final thing on bradman: paul kelly, possibly our most iconic songwriter and our bob dylan, wrote a 7-minute song about the man. admittedly it's not his best work, but still.

YouTube - Paul Kelly - Bradman
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