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Old 07-13-2009, 04:10 AM   #16
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I don't consider cricket a sport
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Old 07-13-2009, 05:56 AM   #17
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Yeah cricket is a bizarre sport, for those who don't get the game, it's a load of wank. Fair dinkum, a summer sport, where the players where long pants. Wiping their spit on the ball, not playing in the rain, going for 5 days. Strange sport, when I think about it.

Henry isn't/wasn't THAT good.
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a summer sport, where the players where long pants. Wiping their spit on the ball, not playing in the rain, going for 5 days.
Sounds exactly like baseball.

Did I mention that Michael Jordan is the correct answer to this question? I can't remember.
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Sounds exactly like baseball.

Did I mention that Michael Jordan is the correct answer to this question? I can't remember.
I know you know nothing about cricket, and I know little about American basketball, but you can't argue with 99.94, and I'll argue that until I'm kicked out of the pub






Here's an interesting one for you all... when weighing up this argument, does or should off-field negativity and poor behaviour detract from them?
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Old 07-13-2009, 12:33 PM   #21
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there's a fair call.

reminds me, i went to see amateur boxing the other night... i've never been more bored in my life! the best part was the 10yo fight, one kid almost knocked the other one out
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Comparing achievements in different sports and different eras is really difficult.

I’d vote Jordan for a mix of his achievements + the wide appeal of the sport (e.g. vs the unknown cricket of Bradman or limited appeal boxing of Ali) + the massive cultural effect. Sure, that’s a credit to Nike and NBA marketing as much as it is to him (and his rise was timed perfectly with the rise of globalization), but there was no athlete in the world that came close to him in the 90s, fame and adulation wise, and his appeal went really wide, well beyond existing basketball fans. Federer and Woods dominate their sports and are up there, but don’t have the same reach or appeal. There have been plenty of huge name, stunning football (soccer) stars, but they’re still not quite in the same utterly dominant, freakish category as Jordan was within his sport.

Football/soccer has had plenty of Larry Birds and Magic Johnsons and Wilt Chamberlains and Kareem Abdul Jabars, but no singular Jordan type. Tennis has a Jordan, but he’s not on a poster on every teenage boys wall in every corner of the globe. People respect Federer and his achievements, but I don’t think he’s created any surge in popularity or participation within tennis (in fact some suggest his dominance has actually hurt the sports popularity). Golf has a Jordan but I bet 95% of people who namecheck him have never watched a minute of him playing. Cricket had a Jordan 70yrs ago, but who gives a fuck about cricket, then or now? Boxing had a Jordan, but boxing never was and never will be a wide appeal sport and Ali wasn’t exactly universally popular at the time. Same with cycling, and their Jordan. People respect Lance Armstrong and his achievements, but he hasn’t inspired millions of kids to spend weeks on end riding around their neighborhood with a baguette under one arm, pissing down their legs. Swimming, athletics – will have their Jordans from time to time, but the peak events are too few and far between and come and go too quickly. Who really knows or cares what Michael Phelps is doing between now and London 2012 (apart from hitting bongs and fucking hot Australian swimmers)?

Jordan wins for both dominating a sport with wide, global appeal, with multiple wins across three peak competitions (college, NBA, Olympic – not to mention the shopping list of personal achievements and records within those competitions), and because of how that dominance was translated into a sporting cultural force unseen before or since.

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And the above was post # 23 in this thread.
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and fucking hot Australian swimmers)?



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I think they trodded out the old "just good friends" for that one.

Eamon musta been fuming.
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To steer away from that discussion of their personal lives, I will now resume and nominate Pele. That guy was one in a million, brilliant player. Perhaps you can throw Diego Maradona in too, but if we are considering whether they've been involved in any off field scandals (like Maradona with drugs etc.) then i'd have to say no.

It's still a mystery to me who the greatest Australian Rules Football player ever is.
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Well that (and this) is an endless argument. Chicken or the egg. Length of a piece of string. Fully divine or fully human.

But it's Gary Ablett sr
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Well that (and this) is an endless argument. Chicken or the egg. Length of a piece of string. Fully divine or fully human.

But it's Gary Ablett sr
Maybe that's a little biased.

To me it's quite surprising. When you think about soccer you think the best is Pele/Maradona, Cricket and you've got the great Don Bradman, Ice Hockey has Wayne Gretzky, tennis has now got Roger Federer, most would argue after his 15th grand slam honour. But you can discuss and discuss but you just can't find the best ever AFL player, though Ablett Sr, Lockett, Coventry, Barassi, Coleman etc. you'd think would be up there.
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This is true. There are just far, far too many greats. Lockett, personally, I think is the one who probably doesn't deserve to be up in that group, I know he's got the record, but he had the luxury of just being a massive unit who could have beat Andre the Giant one-on-one in the goalsquare, knew where and when to lead and had a good midfield. Basically a fat full forward who marked and kicked goals.
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