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Temple has looked pretty good. The whole AAC has looked a lot better, honestly. Conveniently, this happened during the season that the team that was giving the conference its value decided to become the worst FBS team this season.
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Shocked at Alabama being ranked #4.
__________________Thought for sure they'd be 1. Assumed the top 10 would be: 1. Alabama 2. LSU 3. Florida 4. Missississississississississississississipi 5. Texas A&M 6. Missississississississississississississipi State 7. Georgia 8. Arkansas 9. Tennessee 10. Ohio State
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Definitely the most overrated team in the top 10. Without question. |
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At any rate, TCU controls their own destiny. If they win out, they'll knock off Baylor and jump them, LSU and Bama play Saturday, one will lose, that's another spot and tOSU will play MSU and that will be a loss for one of them. So lets say the top 3 win out, they are in, then the next 2 teams would be Notre Dame and TCU cause 4, 6 and 7 would all lose. Got to assume TCU would jump ND with 3 ranked opponents remaining on the schedule to ND's 1.
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The first four last year were Mississippi State, Florida State, Auburn and Mississippi.
Of the four, only Florida State ended up in the playoff. Mississippi State, Auburn and Mississippi finished seventh, 19th and ninth.
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Clemson is going to get the 2014 FSU treatment if they win out because their road has been so easy. They have a playoff spot locked up if they win out, but I think they'll likely slip to #3 if tOSU, MSU or LSU win out. Early prediction, but:
1. 12-0 LSU 2. 13-0 tOSU OR 13-0 MSU 3. 13-0 Clemson 4. 12-0 TCU OR 12-0 Baylor If Alabama wins out: 1. 13-0 tOSU OR 13-0 MSU 2. 13-0 Clemson 3. 12-1 Alabama 4. 12-0 TCU OR 12-0 Baylor Where things get messy is if tOSU/MSU/Baylor/TCU all end up losing a game and Alabama runs the table. Then we get the ultimate sponsor scenario. 1. 13-0 Clemson 2. 12-1 Alabama 3. 12-1 tOSU 4. 11-1 Notre Dame What a hellhole that would be. |
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ND is absolutely poised to run the table, so again, favorable positioning allows them to get into the top four when LSU inevitably loses one of the two games against BAMA. And therefore, they have set up:
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Notre Dame will lose at Stanford.
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Forgot about Stanford. We shall see. They're not as good this year as the last few, but then again...Notre Dame.
Again: My irritation/being upset isn't about TCU. It's about TCU, Baylor and MSU, not to mention Iowa. If one team in a power five is being given the benefit of the doubt by being undefeated, all teams should be treated as such. Why MSU, at the very least, isn't being treated the same as OSU is beyond me. Iowa, well... I get it, they're in the weaker side of the division, but still.
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But see, I think you're feeding into the problem there. By discrediting other teams that have equal record and whatnot, you're effectively buying right back into the system. Temple was undefeated. Defeating a 7-0 team is a big deal. The bullshit is that teams like Alabama are 7-1 and still considered the best of the best, while 7-1 Temple loses a close match to a perceived top 10 team and they're hanging on for dear life to even be ranked. Do you get what I'm saying? I'm not saying ND deserves to be where they are. I'm saying don't knock on Temple in the process of making your point. Because the difference between ND and Temple is an equal record 4 points, but the difference in rank is tremendous.
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Okay, and guess what this boils down to? Mathematically speaking, you're relying on an initial condition. A "boundary condition." Since your logic is seemingly continuous, if Temple doesn't play good teams, but wins, they can *never be good.* they don't play *perceived* challenging opponents. Coincidentally, no matter what Alabama does, they will *always* be good. You're effectively describing the problem, but then you're complaining about it. By saying LSU and Alabama are "high caliber" opponents, you're granting them to be high in the boundary condition. And if you believe that, you support the current standings as is.
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It's one of the MANY conditions they look at in order to make the top ten. What you seem to be suggesting is that Temple should be rated as highly as Alabama. In order to make that be the case, you have to factor in more than w/l record.
There's more than one factor at play in the rankings. If Temple goes undefeated, obviously an undefeated team is better than a team with a loss on paper. If a team's loss is to a top 5 opponent, though, yeah, I think that probably makes a team with a stronger strength of schedule better than a team with a weaker strength of schedule that went undefeated. If you think for one second that I don't have an intense hatred for the system, hate paper champions, and don't factor in as many different criteria as possible for the way I rank teams, then you haven't been reading my posts in these threads for the last 9 years.
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I mean, the simple fact of the matter is that Temple hasn't proven they can punch above their weight. They're a good team, but teams that have proven they can get it done in January always get the benefit of the doubt. It isn't really fair, but the idea is to 1) rack up advertising $$$, 2) prevent dud games. There is absolutely reason to question a team that swept seven unranked opponents following a middling 6-6 season outside of a power 5.
Ask yourself: would Temple equal or better a 3-1 record vs. Georgia, Ole Miss, Texas A&M and Wisconsin? If not, there's no logical reason to rank them above Alabama. |
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And I NEVER suggested that Temple should be ranked as highly as Alabama. I'm suggesting they should be ranked NEAR each other. One needs to go up and the other needs to go down. Quote:
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I know you hate it. I was trying to make a point. This isn't really worth arguing. It's almost like you're trying to argue that math isn't real. Sure, there's "voting" that takes place, but the psychology behind it is largely driven by a power ranking mentality.
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