LMP
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That's right. Mizzou also only has the one loss. They play Bama and The Fighting Manziels next week, though I don't see either winning.
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That's right. Mizzou also only has the one loss. They play Bama and The Fighting Manziels next week, though I don't see either winning.
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bono_212
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Preseason Rankings: Baylor - Unranked, 92 votes
Week 11: Baylor (7-0) - Rank 6/Oregon (8-0) - Rank 3
You don't even have to look at it as a hypothetical, LN7. It happened. Baylor was unranked, played almost the same strength of schedule as Oregon and ended up right near them in the rankings by doing the exact same things.
Week 11: Baylor (7-0) - Rank 6/Oregon (8-0) - Rank 3
You don't even have to look at it as a hypothetical, LN7. It happened. Baylor was unranked, played almost the same strength of schedule as Oregon and ended up right near them in the rankings by doing the exact same things.
LuckyNumber7
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Yes but does the loss to Stanford tell the true story of that game? Seems like Stanford easily walked all over them and a last ditch effort while Stanford was rinsing out time was what brought Oregon back.
Although I definitely agree, my view is changed given what you've said and what was said before. They definitely belong ranked, regardless of where they start. But I guess their ranking tomorrow will tell the true story. I just don't think a top 15 team has ANY room for error and at this point there was a minor slip up for Oregon and a major error and if they're not around #20 (and I just don't see them falling that far), justice won't be served for their terrible showing today.
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bono_212
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Justice?
LuckyNumber7
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They were destroyed today by an unranked team. Justice is putting them in their place. Behind teams that haven't been destroyed by unranked teams.
Hewson
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AKA behind UCF.
Danny Boy
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Obviously you have to take strength of schedule into consideration.
How would UCF, NIU, or Fresno State have faired playing Oregon's schedule this year?
Not to pick on Ashley, but you can ask TCU the difference between playing one or two BCS opponents per year vs. playing a whole season in a BCS conference.
How would UCF, NIU, or Fresno State have faired playing Oregon's schedule this year?
Not to pick on Ashley, but you can ask TCU the difference between playing one or two BCS opponents per year vs. playing a whole season in a BCS conference.
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bono_212
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Ding.
We just can't know. There's no bubble, you know? TCU entered the Big XII after the undefeated seasons. It'd be wonderful to find out just how good that team and that Boise State team were, but we can't ever know.
All that being said, I'm still a huge proponent of the value of an undefeated season and NIU and Fresno deserve more praise.
Danny Boy
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
AP is out. Oregon is #12.
South Carolina is #10.
LuckyNumber7
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I'm speaking for any team, not my team. Don't pretend like you think this system makes any sense at all.
PhilsFan
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I mean this is also all why I don't like college football. How is this fun to argue about?
LuckyNumber7
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Whatever. It's pretty clear that I'm just here to rant bias for my own team, according to the interference elders, who have spoken (but then quietly agree with the point that as being made).
LMP
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I agree that preseason rankings dole out an unfair advantage. It's not a new argument nor is it a fun one to engage in, so there you go.
deep
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anyone notice that there are 5 teams with 2 loses and one with 3 loses ahead of UCF in the rankings,
and UCF only has one loss
and UCF only has one loss
LuckyNumber7
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Heheh.
Very excited for the game tonight. Hope they blow USF out and clinch 1st.
Very excited for the game tonight. Hope they blow USF out and clinch 1st.
LuckyNumber7
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Don't blink, Fresno and LSU are in some close matches...
trojanchick99
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
Feel bad for Fresno. That was a rough 2nd half to watch. The Civil War however was a great game.
Danny Boy
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
Just dropped by to say that I think teams should be penalized in the polls for struggling against unranked opponents. Especially one that is, say, 2-8. 
LuckyNumber7
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Yeah, that was pretty sad on our part.
But, ya know, penalize Fresno and Oregon and LSU for doing the exact same thing today.
I firmly believe we deserve to drop in the rankings for this pathetic win, and it's the same point I made last week against supposedly amazing Oregon a couple of days ago (and was scolded for). But you know, ill get called out for it instead. Like your sly comment right now.
But, ya know, penalize Fresno and Oregon and LSU for doing the exact same thing today.
I firmly believe we deserve to drop in the rankings for this pathetic win, and it's the same point I made last week against supposedly amazing Oregon a couple of days ago (and was scolded for). But you know, ill get called out for it instead. Like your sly comment right now.
Danny Boy
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
Agree LSU had no business needing to come from behind to beat a pathetic Arkansas team.
Hewson
Blue Crack Supplier
Scolded??
Come on dude, drop the persecution complex.
Nobody scolded anybody, a few of us agreed that Oregon would/should drop but all felt that a 2 loss Oregon team should still be ranked, that was all.
LMP
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UCF sucks. Go Seminoles.
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bono_212
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The only thing I've pointed out to you, a few times this season, is that teams rarely drop in the rankings due to winning.
However, I think we'll see that rare situation Sunday.
However, I think we'll see that rare situation Sunday.
LemonMelon
More 5G Than Man
They really do, let's be honest. It's funny that we're having a debate inspired by them.
LuckyNumber7
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Whatever. I'm just glad we got our BCS game. Hope we make it mean something.
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bono_212
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Are you sure?
LuckyNumber7
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What do you mean? Do you think a UCF loss plus a Cincinnati win would move UCF out of BCS standings and Cincinnati ahead of them?
I don't think so really.
But it's a moot point because UCF isn't losing to SMU and Cincy isn't beating Louisville.
I don't think so really.
But it's a moot point because UCF isn't losing to SMU and Cincy isn't beating Louisville.
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bono_212
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Looking into it, I guess I'm misunderstanding.
I thought if an AQ didn't make the top 16 and a non - aq finished above them, they lose their berth to the non-aq.
Referring, of course, to NIU.
Also, I would definitely never count out SMU.
I thought if an AQ didn't make the top 16 and a non - aq finished above them, they lose their berth to the non-aq.
Referring, of course, to NIU.
Also, I would definitely never count out SMU.
PhilsFan
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War Eagle.
LemonMelon
More 5G Than Man
LOL I wouldn't sleep on SMU. UCF has to go on the road to play a team fighting for bowl eligibility when they barely survived Temple and South Florida teams that have a combined three wins.
